Lohengrin wrote:Short reaction to Hans and Neander on this topic:
About the "capacity" of the Auschwitz-ovens:
- Didler Werke, successor of Topf & Sohne, in 1961 summoned Holocaustian William M. Shirer before court, because he wrote in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich about “Millions cremated in the ovens of Topf & Söhne". On the basis of the expert opinion of mechanical engineer Prof. Dr. Trastel, Shirer was forced to correct this (in a footnote placed in the German version only!) for "the size of the ovens in Auschwitz were normal for a modest old-fashioned crematory for small cemeteries and unfit for mass-incineration.” Do you know better, Hans/Neander?
Nowhere in Topf & Söhne's history
it is indicated that the Didier-Werke (note the spelling!) were it's successor. The successor was "Nagema Topfwerke Erfurt VEB", then "VEB Maschinenfabrik Nikos BelojannisIn", then "VEB EMS" in East Germany. In West Germany the company was recreated and still existed in 1961.
Didier-Werke were one of Topf's competitor, and even though they did design ovens for concentrations camps, they never delivered any to Auschwitz. You will also notice that in the original article
by Fields, where this claim is made (with the same wrong spelling!), does neither mention Topf nor Auschwitz in this context.
- To end all nonsense about "15 minutes per body", I refer to the research of the British Cremation Society, who recently concluded for present-day ovens: "cremation of 45 kg body weight (regardless of cremation regulations, coffin, etc.) has at least a duration of 1 hour”. Do Hans/Neander knows better again ?
Then you should take up the argument with Mattogno who has found that
- the Kori ovens in the concentration camps could cremate a single corpse in 50 min
- the oil-fired crematorium in Theresienstadt had a cremation rate of just above 30 min per corpse per oven on one day
Four bodies per muffle is TOTAL RUBBISH, because:
1. It's impossible to get more than 2 bodies in the muffle.
There is plenty of room in the muffle for several corpses. The Kori cadaver incinerator of the same volume as the Topf muffle in the Birkenau oven could take up 450 kg of cadavers, which is equivalent to six male corpses.
Also, once a normal body (or 2 emaciated) was shove into the muffle, it was impossible to repeat this procedure because the stretcher simply couldn't be used twice. Cramming more bodies in by hand was not possible because of rigor mortis, the heat out of the open door, etcetera.
Actually for multiple cremation the corpses were loaded as one batch, see here
2. Cremation time increases even more than the proportional 4 times, because of: less space for hot air in the muffle, less contact-surface per body, clogging of the apertures in the walls between muffles, longer incineration time for emaciated corpses, damaging of the refractory bricks, less reflection/radiation of the refractory bricks etc. All these factors reduce total cremation time exponential!
The three muffle was designed for multiple cremations in the first place:
"Es enthält 5 Stück Muffelöfen mit je 3 Muffeln für 2 Mann
, so daß in einer Stunde 60 Mann eingeäschert werden können." (Erläuterungsbericht of 30 October 1941
Moreover, there is a note
by Topf engineer Sander from September 1942 to the Topfs according to which in the concentration camps, and he is refering in particular to Auschwitz, they were doing "Vollstopfen der einzelnen Muffeln mit mehreren Leichen". This document is important since it shows that multiple cremations were performed in Auschwitz. So the witnesses who have testified about multiple cremations after the war were right - and Revisionists were wrong (not that this would surprise anybody, but anyway). It also indicates that the method of multiple cremations did increase the cremation rates already in the double-muffle ovens. And of course, it also refutes your claim it would even increase the cremation rate.
Even though Revisionists claim the opposite, the Topf engineers confirmed
this after war, Sander on 13 March 1946:
"Pruefer then gave me an example that in his presence two-three corpses were being put into each muffle, and even then they did not cope with the load, because there were too many corpses for incineration in the concentration camp."
Prüfer on 19 March 1946:
"With this I gave Sander an example - that in Auschwitz, in my presence, two-three corpses were being pushed into crematoria openings /muffles/ instead of one per opening, and even then the crematorium's ovens did not cope with that load, because there were too many corpses for incineration."