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Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby Depth Charge » 8 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:26 am)

This caught my eye recently, 'Gas Van';

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Furniture van;

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At first, I thought that it was proof enough that the former was merely a furniture van. Looking closer, its actually the same van. Look at the front wheel/s, in the exact same position. Picture is taken from the exact same angle. Its clearly the same van. The company logo has been crudely airbrushed out, the logo above the cab has been crudely airbrushed in.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby HelenChicago » 8 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:03 am)

The website that photo comes from --- www.deathcamps.org --- is laughably bad. The photo above is on this page:

http://www.deathcamps.org/gas_chambers/ ... _vans.html

Way at the bottom of the page is this disclaimer: "The pictures of the Diamond, Opel, Saurer, and gas trailer are not original. They just show their possible appearance." The entire holocaust legend is based on this sort of nonsense. Truly, it's religion and not history.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby TreeHuggingHippie » 8 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:15 am)

They do say those pictures aren't real, but you have to scroll way down to the bottom of the page, or you will be lead to believe this is the long sought after evidence of an actual gas van. When you do scroll down, it says:
The pictures of the Diamond, Opel, Saurer, and gas trailer are not original. They just show their possible appearance.

In related news, the following picture of my recent abduction by space aliens is not an original. It just shows the possible appearance:
http://www.hermanisnotdead.com/animated ... a_xtnd.gif

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby Arsènelupin » 8 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:44 am)

Pierre Marais wrote a book about those mysterious "Gaswagen" (P. MARAIS, Les camions à gaz en question, Polémique, 1994). I don't know wether it has been translated, or if such a study has been published in english.
The Marais's study shows that the process discribed by witnesses and very suspect sources, particularly the leading of the motor exhaust in a hermetic space, is impossible.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby Kingfisher » 8 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:44 pm)

HelenChicago

More murder with diesel fumes.

They destroyed all the evidence. Which proves it must have existed, because if it hadn't they couldn't have destroyed it.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby Depth Charge » 8 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:06 pm)

Hello, I just noticed their disclaimer. Now obviously someone airbrushed the panel. Is their disclaimer an admission that they did it for artistic effect, or are they admitting that they 'found' this photo - bottom line is that it has still been tampered with.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby HelenChicago » 8 years 11 months ago (Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:54 pm)

Jordan wrote:Hello, I just noticed their disclaimer. Now obviously someone airbrushed the panel. Is their disclaimer an admission that they did it for artistic effect, or are they admitting that they 'found' this photo - bottom line is that it has still been tampered with.


Just a guess: They put those ridiculous photos up without the disclaimers, knowing (rightly) that most people would assume they were authentic. "Oh, those horrid Germans!" They were later forced to add that teensy disclaimer at the bottom as a result of complaints, probably from those pesky, gimlet-eyed revisionists.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby Hannover » 8 years 11 months ago (Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:05 pm)

While the so called "holocaust" is loaded with absurd assertions, none is more absurd than the allegations of Germans gassing Jews in 'gas vans'. As you will see here, the desperate simply forge what they cannot find evidence for. The Believers have lied, and now must continue to lie.

For a demolition of the laughable 'gas vans' see:

'phoney gas vans / J. McCarthy & 'holocaust' Hist. Proj.'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=73

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If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Has this forgery ever been discussed?

Postby nathan » 8 years 11 months ago (Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:03 am)

Clever spotting by Jordan. HelenChicago is right in essence. Unless a "reconstruction" is obviously and patently a reconstruction, it can fairly be described as a fake. Any museum is obliged to make it perfectly plain to all visitors that a plaster cast of a famous sculpture is not the original, even if it is beyond doubt that the reconstrucion is accurate and beyond all doubt that an original does or did exist. None of these conditions are satisfied by e.g, the gas chamber in the Auschwitz 1, although there is always somewhere some small print for insurance.

More small print insurance is in the body of the ARC text:
....bigger ones with approximately 5t payload for around 70 victims (Saurer). The wagons had an air-sealed car-body and looked like furniture vans. With a removable tube the exhaust fumes could be led into the car body. A barred lamp could be used to illuminate the interior.

The reader is left with the impression that we are talking about a purpose-built weapon which looked like a furniture van. Then they show something that in fact exactly resembles a furniture van. Now it seems that the one on display actually was a funiture van - if that was Martin Fratz' line of business.


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