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Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the USA

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:51 pm)

POPULAR MECHANICS magazine in 1922, page 595, describes how huge “Poison-Gas Chambers Disinfect Freight” with cyanide gas. http://books.google.com/books?id=LtoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA595&lpg=PA595&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false Oh, my-oh my! “One of the largest houses, located in El Paso, has three five-car units, each of which measures 225 ft. in length, 12 ft. in width, and 16-1/2 ft. in height. Is that humungous, or what?!!
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Four locations along the US-Mexico border had a capacity of 60,000 railcars per year. Could those same gas chambers, using Zyklon-B or plain cyanide gas, have been used to gas Mexicans or Jews as well? Why not? Didn't the Jews travel to Auschwitz, Treblinka, etc, on railroad trains anyway? Instead of gassing them to death a-f-t-e-r they got off the train, do it all before they get off the train and not-to-worry about any escapes or turmoil.
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American railcars are substantially larger than European railcars. If 100 Jews had been trapped in each railway car, 6 million could have been killed in just one year at the Texas-Mexico border. It would have been technically achievable. It never happened because there was no desire to do anything like that in Texas, or in Europe. The holocaust gassing claims really are a monstrous Jewish hoax!.

Early History of U. S. Cyanide Fumigation from Clemson University
"Fighting Our Insect Enemies"
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1886 — Hydrocyanic acid gas (HCN), one of most deadly gases known, discovered as fumigant for insect control purposes,. 1887 — Pot generation of HCN gas developed for fumigation purposes,.1894 — Hydrocyanic acid gas (HCN) first used for control of insects in greenhouses,1898 — Hydrocyanic acid gas first used for control of insects in homes,1904 — Potassium cyanide powder advocated for control of ants,1905 — Hydrocyanic acid gas advocated for control of cigarette beetle,1912 — Hydrocyanic acid gas used for ship fumigation, Hydrocyanic acid gas adopted by U. S. Public Health Service as standard fumigant, 1915 — liquid hydrogen cyanide first tested for insect control purposes, 1917 — Hydrocyanic acid gas fumigation methods developed for control of insects affecting greenhouse ornamental plants, First railway car fumigation houses erected at Brownsville, Laredo, Eagle Pass, and El Paso, TX., liquid hydrocyanic acid gas introduced commercially.

David D. ROMO--Ringside Seat to a Revolution (El Paso, Texas: Cinco Puntos Press, 2005) page 241--and Alexander COCKBURN http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... 2007.html+ both connected the American use of Zyklon-B in El Paso to the alleged later use of cyanide and Zyklon-B by the Germans and Nazis for mass murder. That is a logical connection since the huge gas chambers used in Texas, and elsewhere, certainly could have been easily used for mass murder of people trapped inside cattle cars—but, but, but and this is so enormously all-important—that logical connection was never made by the Germans or Nazis, ever! Nowhere in the vast, and still growing, holocaust literature has it ever been claimed that anything like a railroad delousing gas chamber was used for mass murder. The Germans had large railroad gas chambers also, even one in Budapest--and, that is all the more reason to reject the holocaust gassing claims as too absurd and false. Surely, if David D. Romo and Alexander Cockburn are clever enough to see the logical connections. the highly trained, but fiendish German technicians would have seen the logical and obvious application as well! The Germans failed to see it because they were not at all interested in gassing anyone. There is NO other explanation.

See also the German essay: PETERS, Dr. Gerhard, “Durchgasung von Eisenbahnwagen mit Blausäure [Fumigation of Railroad Cars with Hydrocyanic Acid]" Anzeiger für Schädlingskunde, (1937), Vol. 13, Heft 3, page 40. Peters was tried as a war criminal after the war and sentenced to five years imprisonment for his connection to the alleged gassings of the Jews. At least he wasn't hung like Dr. Bruno Tesch. Peters certainly knew about the El Paso railway gas chambers since he described them in some detail, even with photos in 1937--but, and this so amazing once again, it never seems to have occurred to him or anyone else in Germany to use any of the large railway gas chambers that were already there, in strategic locations at major railyards, throughout eastern Europe--even in Budapest from where several hundred thousand Hungarian Jews departed by train for Auschwitz. WOW! I guess the "holocaust" must be a dirty Jewish hoax after all!

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Re: Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the

Postby ps » 1 decade 1 month ago (Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:09 pm)

Dear FPB!

We Germans are made believe in the Holocaust. And to us Germans have been delivered enough many proofs that the Holocaust has simply taken place as described. The most superior proof is the use of cyclone B in connection with best of all testified 2-3-minute homicide time through this and the also very well testified high technology construction of the wire net columns with Pressac.

That's why the primitive Eisenbahnwagonentlausungen of the Americans are not considered as a homicide procedure at all. Same is valid for the suitable German constructions.

It is just a difference whether one liked to kill only a few lice with a total weight of maximum 100 grammes or just liked to steal 100,000 kg of Jews.

Therefore, the methods must differ technically basically.

We Germans are famously to go for problems on the reason and to compile for this adequate solutions and to let flow in all known circumstances in onto the problem solution. So of course also with the Holocaust problem, as one can steal 6 million Jews without a trace. How we have solved this problem in elegant manner, here you find. We have simply counted the Jews after Einstein and then these were already & millions to have killed one single Jew 0hne even. Only 0,0000001 or still less Jews were required in addition. We are Germans and know the laws of the nature!
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We know that the Germans to the other nations consider very high were and even even today high technology at that time is kept secret. Unfortunately, we were only one small people who had to fight letzztlich against the whole world and the reserves in material and people were just limited.

To have to handle economically that's why, with resources, we have applied Germans of course also the most sparing methods with the extermination of the Jews. Unfortunately, the direct proofs everybody have been destroyed as famously by the German. How with the Germans commonly of course as perfectly without a trace. Therefore, one thinks in the gas chambers also no tracks of Cyaniden how Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zündel have proved unquestionably and even indisputable.

The only proofs which could have kept, hence are the witness's statements.

These witness's statements prove only one, and the most do not want to take this, unfortunately, to the Kenntniss. Neither here nor somewhere else. The Germans were just perfect and have considered everything!

From the witness's statements it arises without any doubt that the Germans have known the Offenkundigkeit of the refractoriness of the Jews not only separate this Jewish secret have also applied. They would be different because of camp doctor Horst Fischer who is valid as an exceptionally reliable witness who was stated even by Prof. Jagschitz in the process against Honsik, 2-3-minute homicide time did not testify by means of cyclone B explicably.

Unfortunately, the most do not understand. They do not recognise the connections. It turns out because automatically for the logic that one cannot kill dead people. I repeat:

One cannot kill dead person.

Only living persons. The Germans had already had this cataclysmic knowledge about 70 years ago! They were just of her time always ahead. No miracle that 99.9999% of the today's Menscheheit this unbelievable knowledge have not still succeeded. Hence, also not the Revisionisten.

By the way, one been proves even in any experiment that one cannot kill dead people!

Strangely this wants to believe nobody, although it was proved in any experiment. Unfortunately, I cannot find peer reviewte experiment any more, but somewhere it stands written: One cannot kill dead people.

Maybe this revelation is with 10000 Postings untergagangen. Hence, I repeat once again the basic knowledge of the German ancestors: One cannot kill dead people.

I am sorry that I have ridden on this scientific Erkenntniss so long. But it is extremely important for the understanding of the Holocaust. Hence, I repeat once again: One cannot kill dead people.

From this principle knowledge arises because that at the very latest at the homicide time the whole cyclone B or his prussic acid contents must have been evaporated.

Because it is just mad to gasify dead people.

For the Holocaust this means that at all testified homicide times, this are from 1 to 20 minutes, already all prussic acid must have been released.

Because as is known the cyclone was a B container, part "part of mobile" with Pressac, unheated what arises from all witness's statements, the gas chamber must have been heated. Also this arises from a witness's statement.

And here the circle shuts. Because the study of the Bible by the Nazis who could infer from the fact that Jews own highly fire-resistant qualities. Then this was moved by the German in the problem solution, as one destroys without a trace 6 million Jews, in perfect manner: Creamating gas chambers.

Hence, the Nazis ordered the highly fire-resistant Jews in the gas chambers which were warmed up on 1500°C (industrial German high technology) and poisoned the Jews afterwards with the prussic acid gas toxic as is known.

How high the prussic acid amount required for this had been, no role plays! Also it plays no role, how high the prussic acid concentration has been. Jews were gasified and, hence, one can place no übnlichen value. One only knows that an about 25 mm thick Zykloin B became an amount for this benütigt.

It depends only on the fact that just the prussic acid was deadly within 2-3 minutes because one would have gasified otherwise dead people, and that the prussic acid must have been evaporated after 2-3 minutes because one would have gasified otherwise dead people.

Because with the construction to Pressac, "part of Mobiele" which is an essential part of the procedure bekann can be also determined the gas chamber temperature. 600°C to approx. 3000°C in extreme cases.

All this can be proved with a cup Kaffe, but please with cream, easily. The Holocaust was physically possible and, therefore, has taken place. The missing tracks prove ead.
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Re: Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 4 weeks ago (Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:21 pm)

If there is a point to what PS has written above, could someone please explain to me what it is--preferably in simple English, or even in simple German?

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Re: Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the

Postby ps » 1 decade 4 weeks ago (Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:09 pm)

@Moderator: Dont kill this Posting!

Dear FPB!

We have unequivocal witness's statements and it is advisable to consider this exactly. Except witness's statements there are no proofs. From the witness's statements the gas chamber temperature can be determined by suitable conclusion of thermo-dynamic kind with the gasification with cyclone B. The result is: approx. 1500°C.

This means that one has done the Jews in 1500°C hot gas chamber. After the last Jew of 1500 Jews had gone in after the admittance beginning maybe of half an hour later, one has closed the door and then with the help of cyclone has poisoned B the Jews at 2-3 minutes in 1500°C hot gas chamber. This is testified.

In these 2-3-minute homicide time the whole used cyclone B must also have been evaporated completely. Because one would have gasified dead people with cyclone B in the other case. And this is certainly a very senseless homicide method and above all one does not succeed in gasifying dead people.

Then this means compelling that all prussic acid within these 2-3-minute homicide time must have been evaporated. Because one would have gasified dead people with a gas emission going out the homicide time.

Then with this logical end follows automatically (according to calculation or experiment) the gas chamber temperature which has allowed to be able to evaporate the prussic acid within 2-3 minutes completely: About 1500°C.

The details necessary for the calculation are testified completely with Pressac readable up. The essential element is for this the construction of the "Partie Mobile" in which the Zyclone granulate material was poured. His essential dimension is the external diameter (15cm) and the internal diameter (10cm). Moreover, still the information to the material: Galvanised steel metal.

Then this in connection with the density of the Zyclone B granulate material proves a specific constant which marks the necessary warm entry by the container surface up to the entire vaporisation of the prussic acid: 5.4 MJ/m ².

This value is regardless of the filled Zyclone B amount and he is also regardless of the poisonousness of the prussic acid or delicacy of the Jews compared with prussic acid!

With the help of this specific value and the warm crossing number of alpha J/sm²K in connection with the homicide time respectively of the vaporisation time the gas chamber temperature can be determined.

Tgaskammer = 5.4 m MJ ² / (alpha * homicide time).

If one attaches e.g. for alpha a value usual in the civil engineering of 20 J/sm²K and 3-minute homicide time (180 s), a gas chamber temperature results of 5400000 J/m ² / (20 J/sm²K * 180s) = 1500 K above the boiling temperature of the prussic acid.

With it the Holocaust is proved quite unambiguously. :D





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Holocaust-Deniers

Holocaust-deniers reject that these columns even existed. The convergence of this evidence, including the compelling testimonies giving details before corroborating documentary evidence was unearthed, is ignored.

Kula's and Tauber's depositions describing the "wire-mesh insertion devices," decades before the corroborating documentary evidence was discovered in the archives, cannot be explained away. Houstek/Erber's description of the same devices, also before that evidence was discovered, is also a powerful corroboration.

Deniers will likely argue that the minor differences in their descriptions mean we should ignore them. But should we really expect to find identical accounts? The prisoners gave their descriptions months after the fact; the perpetrator, 35 years later. That may account for some of the difference. Just as importantly, we do not know if the Nazis in charge of the gassing operation tried slightly different types of equipment from time to time.

Indeed, if all three descriptions were exactly alike, we might suspect that the later account was copied from the earlier ones. Because they are not, we know that here are three separate eyewitnesses to these items.

Holocaust-deniers reject the validity of the aerial photographs, claiming that the four dark spots on the roof of each gas chamber were retouchings added by the CIA or some other conspiracy. John Ball, who has no expertise in interpreting aerial photographs, suggests either that hypothesis or, alternatively, that the dark spots were flowerpots sitting on each gas chamber.

The objects shown on the roof in the ground photo, say some deniers, are ordinary boxes of construction material.

Deniers also claim that there is no evidence of four holes in the roof of each gas chamber. Because the chambers were dynamited in an attempt to hide evidence of mass murder from the approaching Soviet army, the roofs have collapsed and it is difficult to tell in the rubble what is a hole and what is not. Later this year, an essay on this website will address this question in detail.

Finally, Holocaust-deniers intentionally confuse the solid support columns for the gas chamber roof with the wire-mesh columns. As obvious evidence of their crimes, the latter would have been removed by the Nazis from the gas chambers before they were blown up. Ludicrously, deniers show photos of the solid columns as proof that the wire-mesh columns never existed.

Such feeble attempts to rewrite history do not stand.
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Lieber FPB!

Wir haben eindeutige Zeugenaussagen und es empfiehlt sich, diese genau zu berücksichtigen. Außer Zeugenaussagen gibt es keine Beweise. Aus den Zeugenaussagen kann durch entsprechende Schlußfolgerung thermodynamischer Art die Gaskammertemperatur bei der Vergasung mit Zyklon B ermittelt werden. Das Ergebnis lautet: ca. 1500°C.

Das bedeutet, daß man die Juden in eine 1500°C heiße Gaskammer getrieben hat. Nachdem der letzte Jude von 1500 Juden nach Einlaßbeginn vielleicht einer halben Stunde später hineingegangen war, hat man die Tür geschlossen und dann mit Hilfe von Zyklon B die Juden in 2-3 Minuten in der 1500°C heißen Gaskammer vergiftet. Das ist bezeugt.

In diesen 2-3 Minuten Tötungszeit muß auch das gesamte eingesetzte Zyklon B vollständig verdampft gewesen sein. Weil man im anderen Fall Tote mit Zyklon B vergast hätte. Und dies ist bestimmt eine sehr unsinnige Tötungsmethode und vor allem gelingt es nicht, Tote zu vergasen.

Das bedeutet dann zwingend, daß alle Blausäure innerhalb dieser 2-3 Minuten Tötungszeit verdampft worden sein muß. Weil man bei einer über die Tötungszeit hinausgehende Gasfreisetzung Tote vergast hätte.

Mit diesem logischen Schluß folgt dann automatisch (nach Berechnung oder Experiment) die Gaskammertemperatur, welche es gestattet hat, innerhalb von 2-3 Minuten die Blausäure vollständig verdampfen zu können: Rund 1500°C.

Die für die Berechnung nötigen Details sind vollständig bei Pressac nachlesbar bezeugt. Das wesentliche Element ist hierfür die Konstruktion des "Partie Mobile", dem Behälter, in welchen das Zyklon B Granulat hineingeschüttet wurde. Dessen wesentliche Abmessung ist der äußere Durchmesser und der innere Durchmesser. Außerdem noch die Angabe zum Material: Verzinktes Stahlblech.

Dies in Verbindung mit den Schütteigenschaften des Zyklon B Granulats ergibt dann eine spezifische Konstante, welche den notwendigen Wärmeeintrag durch die Behälteroberfläche bis zur vollständigen Verdampung der Blausäure kennzeichnet: 5,4 MJ/m².

Dieser Wert ist unabhängig von der eingefüllten Zyklonmenge und er ist auch unabhängig von der Giftigkeit der Blausäure oder Empfindlichkeit der Juden gegenüber Blausäure!

Mit Hilfe dieses spezifischen Wertes und der Wärmeübergangszahl Alpha J/sm²K in Verbindung mit der Tötungszeit respektive der Verdampfungszeit kann die Gaskammertemperatur ermittelt werden.

Tgaskammer = 5,4 MJ m² / ( Alpha * Tötungszeit).

Setzt man z.B. überschlägig für Alpha einen im Bauwesen üblichen Wert von 20 J/sm²K an und 3 Minuten Tötungszeit (180 s), ergibt sich eine Gaskammertemperatur von 5400000 J/m² / ( 20 J/sm²K * 180s) = 1500 K über der Siedetemperatur der Blausäure.

Damit ist der Holocaust wohl eindeutig bewiesen.

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Re: Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 1 decade 3 weeks ago (Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:26 am)

PS has given some lengthy but incomprehensible responses to my initial post here. Please, if anyone can make some sense of what PS has written, please put something, brief hopefully, together and post it here. PS has a language problem but he has made extremely important contributions in the past. His discovery, for example, that the heat in diesel exhaust was the great potential killer was a great revelation to me which I have added to my own work on the subject.

The four railroad gas chambers on the Texas-Mexico border are, I believe, an extremely important discovery. More will appear here as the evidence emerges. It should not be buried at the bottom of this discussion forum.

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Re: Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the

Postby muller » 1 decade 3 weeks ago (Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:20 am)

Dear Mr. Berg,
this PS fellow, as far as I understand him, is trying to be ironical. He calculated the temperature which was needed to turn the HCN contained in Kula's wire mesh cage into vapor within 3 minutes as testified by the witnesses, and obtains a temperature of 1500 degrees centigrade. That temperature would also, btw, dispose of the corpses; crematoriums would have been superfluous. PS leaves it to the readers to furnish further details and to draw their own conclusions: that the zinc coat of the wire mesh would have melted at 419°C, that the steel of the wire mesh would have melted between 1100 and 1500°C (depending on the composition), and that concrete and mortar would be reduced to a loose mixture of pebbles, sand and dry cement powder.

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Re: Biggest Cyanide Gas Chambers anywhere, ever, were in the

Postby dazarooney » 9 years 10 months ago (Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:37 pm)

Some interesting point's raised here, good discussion!


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