Cloud wrote:Ask her how they were able to pack so many Jews (some say over a thousand at once) so tightly into the "gas chambers" without having to physically restrain anyone (there is no mention of chains, ropes, handcuffs, etc. in the testimonies). If she replies, "they were tricked because they thought they were going to take a bath,"
I am afraid that the "right screenplay" of "massive gassings" by shower deception was written AFTER the war by mixing numerous versions available in order to obtain a minimum of technical credibility at the end...However, the former assertion of "lethal gas coming from shower heads instead of water" is nowadays generally dropped despite the 2 only testimonies of "gassing operations" on the Yad Vashem site still mention it.
That is why at Nuremberg, thus before the establishment of a "right screenplay", we have several incredible versions accordingly with the the fantasy of the tellers including the way "gassing operations" were carried out in the underground rooms of the Kremas at Auschwitz accordingly with the Russian prosecutor Rudenko who quoted a report supposedly coming from the recites of "several thousands former internees at Auschwitz".
GENERAL R. A. RUDENKO
I will now quote an extract of the appeal to the public opinion of the world from the representatives of several thousands former internees at Auschwitz:
"The gassing of unbelievable numbers of people took place upon the arrival of transports from various countries: France, Belgium, Holland, Greece, Italy, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Germany, Poland, the U.S.S.R., Norway, and others. The new arrivals had to pass before an SS doctor or else before the SS commandant of the camp. The latter pointed his finger to the right or left. The left meant death by gas. Out of a transport of 1,500, an average of 1,200 to 1,300 were immediately to be gassed. Rarely the quota of people sent into the camp was a little higher. It often occurred that the SS doctors Mengele and Thilo performed this selection while whistling a lively tune. The people destined to be gassed were obliged to strip in front of the gas-chambers
, after which they were driven with whips into the gas-chambers
. Then the door of the underground gas-chamber was closed, and the people were gassed. Death occurred approximately 4 minutes later. After 8 minutes the gas chamber was opened
, and workmen belonging to a special commando, the so-called Sonderkommando, transported the bodies to the cremation ovens which burned day and night.
"There was a shortage of ovens at the time of the arrival of transports from Hungary; consequently enormous ditches were dug for the purpose of cremating the bodies. Fires made of wood soaked in gasoline were laid in these ditches and the bodies were thrown into them. However, the SS men frequently hurled live children and adults into those ditches, where these unhappy victims died a terrible death. To save gasoline, the fats and oils necessary for cremations were partly derived from the bodies of gassed people. Fats and oils for technical purposes and for the manufacture of soap were also obtained from the corpses
Source: Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Vol. 7, p 174 & 175.http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/02-08-46.asp
Assuming that such scenes happened at Krema II or III - because "underground gas-chambers" are namely mentioned - that "version" doesn't tell anything about a supposed "undressing room" or about "fake showers" for making victims enter into the "murder rooms". According to those numerous eyewitnesses, the victims stripped "in front of the gas chamber" - it is difficult to figure out where actually because there was only a little vestibule "in front" of Leichenkeller 2 - and whips were used to drive them towards the "gas chamber". Moreover, the 12 minutes total time
mentioned for those "gassing operations", including 4 for killing and 8 for ventilating, is quite the record of all tales for "gassing operations". Incredibly, the "right screenplay", that means the new version corrected in order to provide more credible post war gassing tales, contradicts blatantly several thousands of supposed eyewitnesses quoted by Rudenko at the IMT.
Now, the modern version of the gassing tales includes the criminal traces alleged by Pressac at Krema II and III like the 1 m width Gas-tight door as unique entrance (and exit) at the murder room and 14 false shower heads for deceiving the victims.
Let us try to imagine the scene for gassing 2000 jews at that local though the modern tales can also allege 2500 or 3000. Let us suppose 1000 victims have entered into the gas chamber equipped with the 14 dummy showers of Pressac, that means 1 shower per 71 people
. OK. Don't you think that these people are able to realize soon enough that there is something wrong in their shower time and then enter immediately in panic?
In such case, how are supposed to react the 1000 remaining people at the door outside? Then, in such chaos how would 2, 3 SS or whatever manage for making enter through a 1 meter width door 1000 people in panic outside while 1000 are in panic inside?
By reading the plan of the building, where were supposed to be placed those SS to control such chaotic situation?
Show your mother the door of your bathroom and make her imagine that scene. 2000 people would have passed through it without problem as they say...
Moreover 2000, 2500 or 3000 were supposed to be gassed into a 240 m2 room (not discounting 7 concreted columns and 4 wire mesh columns). That means a density of 8.33, 10.41 or 12.5 persons per square meter
Now, calculate with the area of your bathroom the corresponding number of people such density represents.
Example: if your bathroom is of 2m x 4 m or 8 m2, that means that 66, 83 or 100 can be deceived
with 1 false shower head - actually less, 14 for 2000 means 1 shower head per 142 people
- in order to enter calmly
into that 8 m2 room by the same door you have!
Eventually try with the main room and make your own calculation in order to tell the results to your mom.