joachim neander wrote:@ The Warden:
Sorry, Sir, you are misquoting me: "They didn't ask "Which camps were you at?""
Actually, sir, you weren't quoted at all. The
quotation marks were there to show someone speaking during the
joachim neander wrote:If you have to give a complete (!) listing of your abodes, and if you had been in camp X, then you have to mention this, otherwise you're giving false information. That this did occur in some instances, I said, too. It is also possible that someone forgot to mention a camp etc. s/he was at. But among 900,000 who made the train ride to Treblinka, there should have been more than a handful to testify that they had been there.
Yet isn't it remarkable that very limited amount was used to convict people with no physical remains of the
I don't know of any court case where that would be considered beyond reasonable doubt. But as Pizzaman eloquently put it (and this is a direct quote) "History isn't a court trial".
How convenient for the
ones who have no evidence other than "I said so", or in this case "no more than a handful" said so.
joachim neander wrote:Your comparison with the gas station where the bus makes a short stop is wrong. People sent to transit camps did not stay there for a few hours. They were registered there, underwent selections according to the employment assigned to them, and stayed there for at least 2-3 weeks in "quarantine" to make sure that they were not carriers of infectious diseases. At Auschwitz, transit Jews such as my and Eric Hunt's beloved Irene could have stayed there even for four months.
Although I made no bus comparison, I'd like to ask you something:
While you're trying to argue that people were registered, and stayed for weeks and months at a time, doesn't it seem remarkably inconsistent with the
storyline that states they were dropped off, undressed, walked through "the
tube", and gassed upon arrival?
joachim neander wrote:BTW, your air travel remark is also not up to date. I yesterday bought a plane ticket for me to Louisville, KY. I had to indicate all stopovers and connections (where, when) and to give my exact address in the U.S. (@ Moderator: please feel free to delete this sentence if you feel it is off topic.)
And if you read back, you'll notice the
point wasn't to show they didn't monitor the
stops during the
flight, but the
fact they didn't monitor where you went after you completed the
flight. They don't track what hotel you're going to, if you're backpacking another 800 miles in any given direction, renting a car, or any other numerous possibilities once they've completed their sole purpose of getting you where they wanted to complete the
contract. Please don't spin, Dr. Neander. This thread is dizzy enough. Much like the
prisoners were monitored until Treblinka, they weren't registered if they were sent to gulags, offered in prisoner exchanges, or simply walked right out of the
German occupied territories in an effort to emigrate only to be taken in by Soviet
forces or actually getting to where they were going, such as Israel or the
U.S.. No reason to record you were handed over to Soviets or simply walked away when you're trying to extort Germany. The
homeless are a good analogy here. Ask a person officially where they live in order to collect some sort of benefit check. They'll rely on a previous address in order to get their check. They don't record they are living in the
subway or under a bridge. It's the
last known place of residence that is recorded and kept on file. Like Treblinka for wandering Jews.