Pizzaman wrote:Of course. Except the things that all the survivors have in common from Treblinka are: (1) They say it was an extermination camp, not a transit camp; and (2) None them went to the GULAG.
What prisoners say is the
most unreliable information from the
Holocaust. Prisoners have claimed electrocution, chlorine, sexual experiments, floors opening, impossible numbers, and numerous other examples which have been discussed and debunked time and time again. They said there was tattooed skin, human skin lampshades, and shrunken heads too. Even after lugging them into a courtroom, it still didn't make it any more true. Perhaps you can contact C.D. Jackson to come here and settle things once and for all.
Pizzaman wrote:They didn't do those things to convince people of guilt. They did them because they believed they were true. Without them, they still would have won convictions, as the Frankfurt trials, which had none of those things, amply proved.
They believed they were true because they relied on the
infamous testimonies you keep clinging to. Again, those "truths" didn't turn out so well.
As far as the
Frankfurt trials, look at the
These are convictions of low level officials and privileged prisoners based on most of the
faulty information that derived from Nuremberg.
Now I'm sure you might think the
pharmacist, medical orderlies, and the
dentist masterminded the
Holocaust, but those of us in reality know this is ludicrous.
Which is why they received prison terms or were released, not executed.
Pizzaman wrote:In fact, most DIDN'T change their names, except, as you note, the ones who went to Israel.
majority of the
inhabitants of the
new found land when they developed the
Yiddish language from Hebrew.
Pizzaman wrote:I don't see what relevance name changes have.
Name changes and the
lack of records of such prove my point they aren't too interested in the
details in order to divvy out German money to "survivors".
Anyone can walk in with the
basic information and a sob story of a Jew from WWII era, and simply claim they changed their name.
Pizzaman wrote:Yes, I do believe they would challenge a claim if there were on proof. Otherwise, they'd go broke. Common sense.
And yet, it takes the
Eric Hunts of the
world to expose the
Zisblatts, denierbuds to expose well.... numerous witnesses, and Carolyn Yeagers to expose the
Wiesels (name changed by the
Germany can't challenge these people. They would be accused of antisemitism!
Pizzaman wrote:Make up your mind: Are the stories ridiculous or did they hedge on details?
stories are ridiculous, which is why they hedge on details.
Is there some specific reason you believe it isn't possible they stopped asking for details once they started to see their story line crumbling as a result of those details?
Pizzaman wrote:Again, you'll need to prove that.
obvious change in testimonies over the
years and lack of details is proof positive.
It's Dr. Neander's post that says all they need is to show they were there at the
They didn't ask "Which camp(s) were you at".
Pizzaman wrote:You mean "bane."
Yes, thank you for the
Pizzaman wrote:Also, I don't find the testimonies in that video unreliable, but that's off topic here.
I wasn't referring to that section of the
video in particular.
There's a whole movie loaded with consistent debunking of testimonies, in case you haven't heard. http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/on ... caust.html
Pizzaman wrote:No, it isn't, but at least if people had been through a transit camp, they'd probably say so.
Well, it's common sense that if they had "been through" the
camp in the
first place, it can't be called an extermination camp.
Or they wouldn't have been available for you to wonder why they didn't claim camp loyalties.
Pizzaman wrote:Your mistake here is thinking that the Census Bureau keeps the same records as INS.
Wonderful. I've yet to see any 6 million claim based on INS records. They're always dependent on Jewish post war sources.
I look forward to seeing your conclusions based on the
information you're claiming being presented.
Pizzaman wrote:Nearly zero during the war. The doors were closed.
You mean the
same way the
doors have been closed to immigrants who don't go through the
proper channels now?
Yes, very effective indeed.
Pizzaman wrote:Please provide a link.
Pizzaman wrote:But when you allege a transit camp, you've got to prove one.
So following your logic, if you claim an "extermination camp", you would have to show the
remains of people who were "exterminated", right?
I haven't seen you do that.
Since you can't produce the
remains of the
alleged amounts, the
space required for those amounts was impossible, and the
method of burning was impossible to maintain the
amounts claimed, why would anyone have to show you it was a transit
very fact that the
claims of extermination are impossible show it was a transit
information provided by Hannover shows people passed through the
Pizzaman wrote:Different topic.
fact that the
remains claimed aren't there is a different topic?
Interesting. I seem to think it's rather important to the
theory of transit