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Bringing Holocaust Debate to Other Forums! Bishop Williamson

Postby pattydee » 8 years 3 months ago (Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:17 pm)

By googling around I notice this thread on Bishop Williamson.
http://biglinmarshall.proboards.com/ind ... 132&page=1

Anyone care to comment there? :wink:

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Re: Bringing the Holocaust Debate to Other Forums!

Postby Hannover » 8 years 3 months ago (Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:40 pm)

As a beginner, why don't you state your position and tell us why you think that this thread is something we should read? Don't just post a link and say 'what do you think?'. I do agree though with what I think is your point, more & more people are debating the absurd 'holocaust'.

The responses I read there were mostly very childish with the typical strawman arguments. BUT a few enlightened posts appeared among them. BTW, this Bishop Williamson topic has been discussed here.

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Here's the full text of Washington Post article which started the thread:
Catholic Bishop denies Auschwitz Gassings

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03431.html
Bishop Apologizes to Pope but Does Not Retract Holocaust Denial

By Francis X. Rocca
Religion News Service
Saturday, January 31, 2009; Page A10

VATICAN CITY, Jan. 30 -- A Holocaust-denying bishop who was readmitted to the Catholic Church apologized Friday to Pope Benedict XVI for the "unnecessary distress and problems" caused by his "imprudent remarks."

Bishop Richard Williamson, one of four leaders of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X whose 1988 excommunications were lifted by the pope Jan. 21, posted the statement on his personal blog.

Jewish groups have voiced outrage that Williamson recently told Swedish television that "historical evidence is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler." On Thursday, Israel's chief rabbinate, the country's highest Jewish body, severed ties with the Vatican.

In an apparent response to the controversy, Benedict on Wednesday condemned the Nazi genocide of "millions of Jews" and expressed his "full and indisputable solidarity" with the Jewish people.

The pope has not, however, explicitly condemned Williamson's remarks.

Williamson's apology came in the form of a letter, dated Jan. 28, to Cardinal Dario Castrillón Hoyos, head of the Vatican office that deals with the Society of St. Pius X and other traditionalist groups disaffected by church reforms stemming from the Second Vatican Council (1962-65).


"Amidst this tremendous media storm stirred up by imprudent remarks of mine on Swedish television, I beg of you to accept . . . my sincere regrets for having caused to yourself and to the Holy Father so much unnecessary distress and problems," Williamson wrote.

The bishop also expressed gratitude for Benedict's cancellation of his excommunication and promised to "offer a Mass" for the pope and Castrillón.

In an introductory comment for readers of his blog, Williamson suggested that critics had exploited his remarks merely to attack Benedict.

"Last week's media uproar" was "surely aimed rather at the Holy Father than at a relatively insignificant bishop," he wrote.

Williamson also hinted that his apology was not a retraction of his inflammatory historical statements but a gesture of deference to the pope.

Introducing the letter to Castrillón, Williamson noted that the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, founder of the Society of St. Pius X, "gave his Society the example of never so cleaving to God's Truth as to abandon respect for the men holding God's Authority."

Also Friday, an Israeli government official said that the Jewish state maintains good relations with the Vatican despite the controversy over Williamson, the Associated Press reported.

Israel's ambassador to the Holy See, Mordechay Lewy, said that "the climate is good" and that there is "a lot of potential for cooperation" between the Vatican and Israel.

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Re: Bringing Holocaust Debate to Other Forums! Bishop Willia

Postby Hannover » 8 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:11 am)

And leave it to the Religion News Service to discuss religion, the intolerant religion of the 'holocaust'.

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Re: Bringing Holocaust Debate to Other Forums! Bishop Willia

Postby Bonesy » 8 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:15 am)

I congratulate anyone in such a high social position who can stand up and state their personal distaste for the orthodox Holocaust story. e.g. President Ahmadinejad. Huge courage shown by those individuals.
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Re: Bringing Holocaust Debate to Other Forums! Bishop Willia

Postby stefanob » 8 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:48 pm)

Bonesy wrote:I congratulate anyone in such a high social position who can stand up and state their personal distaste for the orthodox Holocaust story. e.g. President Ahmadinejad. Huge courage shown by those individuals.


I fully agree. It REALLY takes courage to challenge the holocaust orhtodox story. One may end up unemploied, or even jailed, in many countries. Thank you for acknowledging it.
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Re: Bringing Holocaust Debate to Other Forums! Bishop Willia

Postby The Warden » 8 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:39 pm)

pattydee wrote:By googling around I notice this thread on Bishop Williamson.
http://biglinmarshall.proboards.com/ind ... 132&page=1

Anyone care to comment there? :wink:


Looks like someone has taken the initiative.

I prefer to invite people here instead. CODOH is full of information, and the rules dictate an orderly discussion.
I've had posts deleted and been banned from more forums than I can remember.
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