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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 9 months ago (Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:47 pm)

Some of the critics here have been plodding for so long among a tiny circle of discussion forum participants that they are blind to the much bigger world that is out there. Many young people love the music in the Defiance video and have no trouble reading text at the same time. On the contrary, It inspires and entertains them as they become educated about the holocaust hoax. People change. The good old days are over--and, good riddance.

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Malle » 7 years 9 months ago (Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:11 pm)

Friedrich, I believe that most of the posters are honest people so comments like “do your own videos” will get you nowhere. I’ll think you get so many viewpoints that are posters here.

My thoughts are here:

The subject is perfect as most of average people has the 6 000 000 clinging in their ears for at least 20 years now, so they will recognize it directly.

Showing the old clips with 6 000 000 and the date, very good. But some of the clips are shown too fast, you can hardly see the 6 000 000 and the date. We all here know that the clippings are before 1945, but the average person doesn’t know that.

Like many say here, you should cut out the Jews from 00:08 to 00:28. Other passages are 03:14 to 03:40, 07:10 to 07:42 and 08:26 to 10:13. You should try to convince the average person, not us here at the forum because we are already convinced.

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Kingfisher » 7 years 9 months ago (Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:29 am)

Carolyn Yeager wrote:
Kingfisher wrote:It is true that once you have accepted that the Germans did not murder millions of people from mad racist motives you will then be more open to considering other factors: that the Nazi regime, while strongly authoritarian, may well have been less brutal than the Soviet Union;

Hi Kingfisher. I am so perplexed by this "may well have been." It really caught my attention. Definitely Nazi Germany was less brutal than the SU! Do you really feel they are sort of equal or are you just putting it that way out of consideration for the communists (heh heh), or the politically correct? I'm not picking on you at all, I'd really like to know. :| (Too bad there's not a smilie with a halo.)

Very briefly, Carolyn, because it's going OT: for what it's worth, I personally am satisfied that the Stalinist regime was fundamentally more brutal than and on a different scale to Hitler's, even though I don't have the same view as you. What I was doing there was not speaking directly myself but following the potential thought processes of someone who has been brought up to believe in Nazism as the ultimate evil, but who has just found out that the evidence for their major crime, on which all the rest of this image of evil is based, is rather less solid than is universally believed. One question leads to another. Though, in my own case, even when I believed the worst of Hitler I was still fully aware of the murderous treatment of minorities by Stalin and rated the one no better than the other.

(Even more OT: I once had a post deleted from the Guardian Comment is Free (hahaha) for "breach of our community standards", because I sought to defend those Latvians who fought with the Germans to prevent their country's re-occupation by Stalin. It may not have helped that I also mentioned that the murders of Jews by Nationalist gangs were at least partially motivated by revenge because Jews had supported the 1940 annexation and that many of the NKVD torturers were Jews.)

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby mdmguyon » 7 years 9 months ago (Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:44 am)

I haven't watched the entire video, but there's a probably more extensive rundown of the many references to 6 million Jews at http://sixmillionmyth.blogspot.com/p/si ... -myth.html. Some of them seem extremely loosely related to the Holocaust. I find it to be quite a stretch that because the number of Jews thought to be in danger of starving after World War 1 was 6 million or that the number of Jews that, were Czarist Russia to stop persecuting them, Zionism wouldn't be necessary, was 6 million, that the same number was used to advertise the Holocaust.

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Mkk » 7 years 9 months ago (Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:18 am)

In the 1930's the US kept more than ten million people in de facto slavery

Who?
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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 9 months ago (Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:17 pm)

The fact that MKK even asks the question about "de facto slavery" in the US illustrates just how incredibly ignorant Americans are about their own history. The answer is: Black Americans. That de facto slavery continued well into the 1960's. Native Americans and hispanics were also reduced to near slavery as well.

Before Americans try to make moral judgements about the relative brutality of Nazism versus communism, for example--they should take long looks at themselves in the mirror. Learn your own history before trying to moralize about anyone else. America is an extremely sick country, morally and politically--with very little, if anything--to be proud of. It is NOT a great country at all. It is still quite wealthy and enormously powerful militarily which makes it a continuing menace to the entire world.

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Carolyn Yeager » 7 years 9 months ago (Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 pm)

Kingfisher wrote:
Carolyn Yeager wrote:Very briefly, Carolyn, because it's going OT: for what it's worth, I personally am satisfied that the Stalinist regime was fundamentally more brutal than and on a different scale to Hitler's, even though I don't have the same view as you. What I was doing there was not speaking directly myself but following the potential thought processes of someone who has been brought up to believe in Nazism as the ultimate evil, but who has just found out that the evidence for their major crime, on which all the rest of this image of evil is based, is rather less solid than is universally believed. One question leads to another. Though, in my own case, even when I believed the worst of Hitler I was still fully aware of the murderous treatment of minorities by Stalin and rated the one no better than the other.


Thanks Kingfisher. It's true that so many like focusing on Nazi evil (it's the movie and cartoon imagery they've been over-exposed to) and at the same time like forgetting about Bolshevik evil (again the media and educational conditioning). That's why we have to try so hard to show them a different point of view. Based on this, maybe you will help me out at the New Statesman -- see my new thread: New Statesman has decided I am spam.
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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby mdmguyon » 7 years 9 months ago (Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:24 pm)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:
America is an extremely sick country, morally and politically--with very little, if anything--to be proud of. It is NOT a great country at all. It is still quite wealthy and enormously powerful militarily which makes it a continuing menace to the entire world.


I agree with much of your criticism of the United States, particularly how it uses its military, but at least it hasn't outlawed free speech (yet?).

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby jeffersonian » 7 years 9 months ago (Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:24 am)

Kingfisher wrote:Agree with SKcz and Mkk. The first rule of communication is to avoid alienating the people you most want to influence. This video as it stands will do just that.


I think it is perfectly reasonable to present a video that is, shall we say, Holocaust-Plus. Present your world view along with a refutation of the Holocaust, why not? A lot of people are in desperate need of a worldview, along with awareness that the Holocaust is a bunch of bunk.

Holocaust Denial Plus is a good idea. Indeed the more they see Holocaust Refutation together with other ideas, the better for them. It's not a dry, isolated subject.

How do you make videos? Is there a primer? Maybe by the end of the year I can figure out how to make one. I think it must be a lot of work though. Probably four-six hours per minute of good video. At least. Not counting background knowledge acquisition!!

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Postby Moderator » 7 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:55 pm)

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby Haldan » 7 years 8 months ago (Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:53 pm)

Mr Berg is right - the future lies in professionally crafted videos. The future belongs to the ones who can grasp technology and put together an appealing package for the general masses.
We already have the truth on our side, we need only ways to present it :P

Here's one I liked,
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUqvKO6PVuI[/youtube]

And:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqWX3Hl3xZo[/youtube]

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Postby Haldan » 7 years 8 months ago (Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:08 am)

I found even more videos: they all seem fresh and vivid in content. The producer should create more of his own imagery, that's my only concern.

Who Are The Revisionists?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFUAbwZnTjw[/youtube]

Don't Deny the Holycost, just don't Believe in the Holocaust.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d9r0V7x5vM[/youtube]

ARIEL TOAFF AND THE NEWLY INVENTED FAIRY TALE OF THE "VOLUNTARY DONORS"
(This one is strictly not "holocaust" related, but I include it any way. It does make reference to this alleged "holocaust" in the credits.)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_K4FhJpAc[/youtube]

HHN Is A Powerful Bulwark Against The Holocaust.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOpZGg8MjI[/youtube]

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby JoFo » 7 years 7 months ago (Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:52 pm)

Why not use videos to take the holocaust proponents at their word? Someone ought to collect all the outrageous eye-witness testimonies and recreate them as video dramatizations.

We could see some witnesses unwittingly stroll across a fresh mass grave and have blood geysers randomly erupt around them. We could have Dr. Mengele making the rounds in the Auschwitz infirmary; tending all the typhus patients and then stitching a couple of humpbacks together before his shift ends. Or we could watch Irma Grese and her latest paramour engage in a passionate kiss while a flogging takes place in the background. And all the while there should be a serious sounding narrator assuring the listener that what they are seeing is true, as recounted by actual eye-witnesses.

I'm sure there would be enough material to make a series out of it.

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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 7 years 7 months ago (Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:26 am)

Video's now been deleted and the youtube account closed.

I can't access Mr. Berg's site either. Is that just me? And is the video viewable elsewhere?
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Re: The Future of Revisionism: Scholarly VIDEOS

Postby grenadier » 7 years 7 months ago (Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:36 pm)

@TheBlackRabbitofInlé

It's not just you, it seems Bergs site is down.


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