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Zyklon B gas vans!?

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 7 years 9 months ago (Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:30 pm)

Following is a facsmile of part of the "Opinion by Judge Michael A. Musmanno." at the 4th NMT, the "Pohl Trial", from the NMT "Green Series" Vol.5:

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The document Musmanno cited was PS-499, which Havard Law School Nuremberg Trials Project describes as:
Literal Title: A Convalescence Camp.
Descriptive Title: Report on the killing of inmates at Mauthausen concentration camp.
Document Date: [no day] [no month] 1945
Evidence Code No.: PS-499 (Click for all versions of this document.)
Language of Text: English
Notes: The report is not signed. It includes statements from witnesses and wartime records from the camp. Another version (database item 4017) is signed by Ernst Martin.
Document Type: A non-trial evidence files document from which a trial document was derived.


Here is page 6 of it:

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Found here: http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/php/do ... t=overview
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Re: Zyklon B gas vans!?

Postby fountainhead » 7 years 9 months ago (Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:52 pm)

Is there any reason this technically couldn't work? I mean, to me, an amateur revisionist, it seems this is at least more plausible than the 'diesel gas wagons'.
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Re: Zyklon B gas vans!?

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 7 years 9 months ago (Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:17 pm)

We might see some intrepid holocaust propagandists turn holocaust historiography upside-down. Based on this single affidavit, they'll
change the method of execution in the gas vans: from engine exhaust fumes to Zyklon B. They've done similar things before.

But seeing as its was Mauthausen, the Zyklon B would have had to have been on a "hot brick" before it was introduced into the van.
"If a gassing was due to take place, … Roth gave orders to one of the prisoners of the crematorium work detail, who were his subordinates, usually to the witness Kanduth, to heat a brick in the crematory oven. Roth took the burning-hot brick in a shovel and placed it inside the apparatus for admitting the gas. The apparatus consisted of a metal chest with a removable cover, which could be hermetically sealed by means of wing screws and airtight packing. By giving off heat, the brick led to the quick release of the poison gas, which was fixed to shreds of paper."
- Judgement, Hagen Mauthausen trial, 24 July 1970
(as quoted in:)- Kogon, Langbein and Rueckerl. Nazi Mass Murder: A Documentary History of the Use of Poison Gas. Yale University Press. 1993. pp. 179-9.
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Whoever compiled this report, probably US Army Major Eugene S. Cohen or one
of his brethren, just confused two of the atrocity tales they were propagating.
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blog ... ausen.html
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Re: Zyklon B gas vans!?

Postby Hannover » 7 years 9 months ago (Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:51 pm)

Great, a piece of typed paper done by who knows who to mean whatever they want. That is what passes for 'holocaust' proof'.

And death by Zyklon-B in 'gas vans'? They couldn't and can't keep their lies straight. It's now absurdly said to be truck exhaust.

As for gas vans in general, read this demolition of that absurd fantasy:
'phoney gas vans / J. McCarthy & 'holocaust' Hist. Proj.'
viewtopic.php?t=73

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Re: Zyklon B gas vans!?

Postby Random » 7 years 9 months ago (Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:31 pm)

fountainhead wrote:Is there any reason this technically couldn't work? I mean, to me, an amateur revisionist, it seems this is at least more plausible than the 'diesel gas wagons'.


Although technically feasible, it does seem incongruous with the supposed mass killing on an industrial scale, carried out by a nation highly advanced in contemporary chemistry and engineering. If Hydrogen Cyanide was the killing method in gas vans, maybe by heating the crystals using hot exhaust gasses, then what was the procedure for safely venting the gas from the killing compartment after the operation, and how was the drivers compartment specially sealed against highly dangerous gas leaks? Where are the blueprints of the prototypes, prior to mass production, and the documentation on their operation?

As has been stated before, if the Germans wanted to efficiently kill using gas vans, using Carbon Monoxide gas, they had large numbers of highly efficient CO producing "Gas Vans" in the form of all their civilian vehicles converted to run off wood gas. These would not require large measures in the way of sealing, post operation venting etc, to make the killing procedure safe for the operators, since CO is far less hazardous than Hydrogen Cyanide.

If efficient, fast mass killing was desired, why did the Reich not use the highly efficient nerve agent Tabun, of which they had produced 12,500 tons by the end of WW2, but never used, instead of adapting the insecticide normally used for delousing operations? This also begs the question of why the Third Reich would use so many differing haphazard methods of killing if the required outcome was the efficient large scale extermination of the undesirable segment of their population.


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