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Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Carolyn Yeager » 5 years 7 months ago (Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:23 pm)

Is this a joke? This woman is only 26 years old. She just got her PhD. This is kind of like a class project for her students. She has no experience. Yet her "work" is plastered all over the newspapers. I take it this is the local newspaper where she is a university lecturer. Check out the silly pictures. I still don't understand why she is being treated respectfully by revisionists.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Un ... tory.html#
Uncovering mass graves of Holocaust horrors at Nazi death camp

MURDERERS always leave a trace of their crimes. Yet for more than 60 years, the physical evidence of mass graves at a former Nazi concentration camp lay undiscovered.

Now Caroline Sturdy Colls, a forensic archaeologist and Staffordshire University lecturer, has built up the first scientific picture of what lies beneath the ground at Treblinka in Poland.

It includes the remains of gas chambers, large pits, and 11 locations which are thought to have become the final resting place for countless victims of the Holocaust.

Caroline, aged 26, pictured below, said: "I had started to do research into cold cases, looking at how to use modern techniques to solve murder cases. Treblinka was the ultimate cold case."

Although witness accounts provided a harrowing human record of what went on there, the site itself had been razed to the ground by the Nazis when they wound down the camp in 1943.

By then, it had served its purpose as the ultimate experiment in extermination. More than 800,000 Jews perished at Treblinka in little more than a year.

"Throughout the war, they denied it was ever there," said Caroline. "They dismantled the buildings and planted trees. They then created a farmhouse and installed a Ukrainian farmer and his family there. It was a ruse.
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"My work was trying to question what 'destroyed' really means. You are always going to leave some kind of trace."

Caroline, who grew up in Blythe Bridge and now lives in Tean, began her research four years ago as part of her PhD at Birmingham University. She will be continuing the next phase of the field work this summer through Staffordshire University.

Some of her forensic investigation students in Stoke-on-Trent will also be involved. They will be testing out chemical techniques, which Caroline then hopes to use on site to provide further evidence of the graves.

Archaeologists had previously been unable to do research at Treblinka because Jewish law prevents disturbance of human remains. It wasn't until developments in technology, including satellite imagery, GPS and mapping software, that it became possible to investigate without excavation work.

Caroline spent three weeks doing intensive surveys at the site, supported by a team of archaeologists. It involved ground-penetrating radar and creating electric images of cross-sections of the ground. They also studied vegetation patterns for clues.

Caroline recalled: "We were looking for potential boundaries. We also found structural foundations, including the remains of what is believed to be the gas chambers.

"Some pits were 34 metres long.

"The biggest problem with geophysics is you can't distinguish human remains. You just find solid material.

"But we correlated the findings with witness accounts and also overlaid the data onto aerial photographs. That's how we worked out they were mass graves."

A memorial was built at Treblinka in the 1960s. Caroline discovered its boundaries don't accurately reflect the camp's layout, which was bigger than previously thought.

The only other record of underground structures at Treblinka was from a 1946 report into German crimes in Poland. But it said no graves had been found there.

Working on site, Caroline was struck by an eerie calm. Visitors travel through open countryside and pine forests to reach the isolated spot.

It may have taken decades for the mass graves to come to light, yet bone fragments and teeth wash up with the rain.

"Cremation doesn't completely reduce a body to ashes," said Caroline. "The most amazing finds were the artefacts. They included spoons, tins and cups lying on the surface."

Piecing together the evidence was an uncomfortable experience.

Caroline added: "There were times when I wanted to walk away. But I felt so strongly that it needed to be done. It should upset you."

In the early days of the death camp, bodies were thrown into the graves. These remains were later dug up by the Nazis and burnt. Their preferred method became the gas chambers and crematorium. Victims would follow a path nicknamed the "road to heaven".

Caroline said: "You can trace their journey through the camp by looking at the landscape.

"They arrived via a railway line. The Nazis tried to make out they were being taken east for work.

"Once on the platform, some were taken to an artificial field hospital. It was a burning pit used for people who weren't going to make it to the gas chambers."

As the killings became ever more systematic, it took just eight minutes from arriving at Treblinka to extermination.

Caroline stresses her research will never "explain" the Holocaust. But she added: "If it helps people get some closure and provides an education resource, it will have made a contribution."

She will be working with the Treblinka Museum on an exhibition. Ultimately, she hopes to create a detailed site map.

Outside of teaching and research, the former Blythe Bridge High student also acts as a consultant for police forces.

Caroline helped with the search for Keith Bennett, a victim of the Moors Murders. More recently, she recovered the body of a Gloucestershire woman murdered by her husband.


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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Hannover » 5 years 7 months ago (Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:32 pm)

Carolyn Yeager stated:
I still don't understand why she is being treated respectfully by revisionists.

That should be some Revisionists. I've spanked her aplenty and deservingly so.

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Carolyn Yeager » 5 years 7 months ago (Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:42 pm)

Hannover wrote:Carolyn Yeager stated:
I still don't understand why she is being treated respectfully by revisionists.

That should be some Revisionists. I've spanked her aplenty and deservingly so.

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Okay, correction accepted. :D
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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Kingfisher » 5 years 7 months ago (Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:08 am)

Where has she been treated respectfully, Carolyn?

I presume you mean by that not properly challenged, rather than simply shown normal academic courtesy (that the orthodox don't show revisionists ;) )

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby tyger » 5 years 7 months ago (Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:49 am)

Ms Coll's PhD thesis should be on line, at the University of Birmingham, now or in the very near future. Should make for interesting reading.

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Clem » 5 years 7 months ago (Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:24 am)

Now Caroline Sturdy Colls, a forensic archaeologist and Staffordshire University lecturer, has built up the first scientific picture of what lies beneath the ground at Treblinka in Poland. It includes the remains of gas chambers, large pits, and 11 locations which are thought to have become the final resting place for countless victims of the Holocaust...

... "Some pits were 34 metres long."



Did you notice how the largest pit has increased in size from 26 meters to 34 meters?


From her earlier statement:

Caroline Sturdy Colls: All the history books states that Treblinka was destroyed by the Nazis, in summary, the survey demonstrated that this simply isn’t the case. I have identified a number of buried [sic] pits using geophysical techniques. These are considerable. One in particular is 26 meters by 17 meters.



So she's gone from "ONE" pit 26 meters long to "SOME" pitS 34 meters long.


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The most amazing finds were the artefacts. They included spoons, tins and cups lying on the surface.


Oh yes, "spoons, tins and cups" are such "amazing finds" - especially when you can't find the remains of one single person.

So this fraud is the same charade that we saw at Chelmno and Sobibor.

Yawn.

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Carolyn Yeager » 5 years 7 months ago (Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:46 am)

Kingfisher wrote:Where has she been treated respectfully, Carolyn?

I presume you mean by that not properly challenged, rather than simply shown normal academic courtesy (that the orthodox don't show revisionists ;) )


I don't mean by the posters here. What I mean is that upon investigation, she is a light-weight who has not produced anything of substance except newspaper articles about her "study." So along with debunking what she has said so far (which I understand can be taken as an opportunity to get a debate going, which reputable revisionists like Thomas Kues has ably taken advantage of), I think her weakness as a professional should also have been brought to light. Is that too much ad hominem for you? The fact is that most of what she says is nonsense. I don't agree with exaggerated academic courtesy; not being an academic might have something to do with it. But what exactly are her academic credentials? She doesn't have any yet.
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Postby Charles Traynor » 5 years 7 months ago (Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:03 pm)

Carolyn, you are quite right to question Sturdy-Colls role as team leader for this Treblinka survey. Although Caroline now holds a doctorate, one would have thought an older and more experienced forensic archaeologist would have been a wiser choice for a job of this significance. I don’t want to sound melodramatic but I suggest there are dark forces working behind the scenes to manipulate the outcome of this investigation.

It goes without saying that the Industry would never allow an outsider or completely independent investigator anywhere near the alleged mass graves of Treblinka. Caroline Sturdy Colls has been groomed for her present roll for years. I don’t believe it is mere coincidence that her earlier work seems to have revolved around a Jewish theme: investigations of the only SS camp in the Channel Islands and medieval synagogues in the UK.

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Any thoughts that Sturdy Colls is conducting an impartial investigation are quickly dispelled when we understand that Michael Schudrich, the chief rabbi of Poland, receives her reports before they are made public. I would be very interested to learn about Sturdy Colls background, if only to put my mind at rest: What is her ethnicity, religion, and citizenship status?
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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Charles Traynor » 5 years 7 months ago (Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:17 pm)

Clem wrote:
Now Caroline Sturdy Colls, a forensic archaeologist and Staffordshire University lecturer, has built up the first scientific picture of what lies beneath the ground at Treblinka in Poland. It includes the remains of gas chambers, large pits, and 11 locations which are thought to have become the final resting place for countless victims of the Holocaust...

... "Some pits were 34 metres long."



Did you notice how the largest pit has increased in size from 26 meters to 34 meters?


From her earlier statement:

Caroline Sturdy Colls: All the history books states that Treblinka was destroyed by the Nazis, in summary, the survey demonstrated that this simply isn’t the case. I have identified a number of buried [sic] pits using geophysical techniques. These are considerable. One in particular is 26 meters by 17 meters.



So she's gone from "ONE" pit 26 meters long to "SOME" pitS 34 meters long.


Industry Jews and their lackeys are the masters of deceit. It will be interesting to read her final report if Michael Schudrich allows it to released.
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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Kingfisher » 5 years 7 months ago (Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:13 am)

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Kingfisher wrote:Where has she been treated respectfully, Carolyn?

I presume you mean by that not properly challenged, rather than simply shown normal academic courtesy (that the orthodox don't show revisionists ;) )


I don't mean by the posters here. What I mean is that upon investigation, she is a light-weight who has not produced anything of substance except newspaper articles about her "study." So along with debunking what she has said so far (which I understand can be taken as an opportunity to get a debate going, which reputable revisionists like Thomas Kues has ably taken advantage of), I think her weakness as a professional should also have been brought to light. Is that too much ad hominem for you? The fact is that most of what she says is nonsense. I don't agree with exaggerated academic courtesy; not being an academic might have something to do with it. But what exactly are her academic credentials? She doesn't have any yet.


I meant by revisionists, which is what you originally said, but -- I agree -- I didn't quote.

On academic credentials, she has a Ph D, and is specialising in forensic archaeology, isn't she? True she is inexperienced, but she is older than Irving was when he wrote Dresden, and she has to start somewhere. But I agree her work is pretty hopeless and that is what we need to go for, as Kues already has. Revisionists are not on good ground attaching importance to formal qualifications. But then Irving has claimed he couldn't have done a proper job as a historian if he'd been in academia because he would not have had the time to get out and study the documents. And somehow I don't see any Italian university funding Mattogno to do the work he has.

Has she produced a formal report yet? Presumably she will have to, to justify her financing.

As for the reaction of the mass media, well, what did you expect. Sad but true.

If this was a genuine survey, being approached in good faith with scientific methodology without presuming the findings in advance, or alternatively making assumptions but subjecting them to rigorous attempts to disprove them, it could be the start of something good and interesting. But we all know that it will be shut down after a few superficial findings that will be presented as supporting the orthodox Holocaust story, just like Kola's Belzec study was.

One thing that has been puzzling me about this survey is: how can she possibly use GPR equipment when the ground is covered with those memorial rocks? Has she only explored outside that area?

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby tyger » 5 years 7 months ago (Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:44 am)

It may be significant that Jonathan Charles, the presenter of the BBC radio program that featured Ms Colls's work, is an extremely active member of B'nai B'rith.

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Postby neugierig » 5 years 7 months ago (Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:38 am)

Yes, that is interesting, tyger. I also agree with CT, we should do a background check on Sturdy Colls. Regardless of where she comes from, however, it is clear that she knows which side of the bread the butter is on. Scientists are worse than any Freudenmädchen, same goes for most journalists. :(

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby ganglere » 5 years 7 months ago (Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:45 pm)

Greetings ladies and gentlemen!

I agree with previous posters, that the examination of the Treblinka camp does not meet the scientific criteria, as she has clearly stated what result it is supposed to lead to, that is, the refutation of the revisionist thesis.

The value of the publication of her findings, is not the findings themselves (whatever that is supposed to be) but the headlines themselves.

If we assume that Treblinka was designed from the outset to be an extermination camp, why was there never a crematoria present? There were, to my recollection, both stationary and mobile ones.

The only serious method of establishing deaths at Theblinka, is by excavating the whole place, and that, ladies and gentlemen, we are told, is forbidden by jewish laws.

My guess is that this "examination" will go the same way as Kolas.

All the Best!

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby neugierig » 5 years 7 months ago (Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:07 pm)

Even though I am not a frequent poster here, I would like to welcome you, ganglere. And, you hit the nail right on the head: Sturdy Colls, instead of allowing whatever evidence she discovers to lead her to conclusions, “knows” what she set out to find, or better was told to find, namely the graves. In her write-ups beforehand she tells us that she is surprised that the graves have not been located yet. With this she disqualifies herself, she is not a scientist but a True Believer, using her training in an effort to lend credence to a lie.

As for preparations by the “Nazis”, there were none. They never realized that killings produce bodies, seem to have been surprised that this was so and then just made do. Höß, in the memoirs allegedly written by him, told that: “The bodies could be buried in long, deep pits in the nearby meadows. We didn’t think about burning them at this time” (Death Dealer, 28).

This holocaust story is an insult.

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Re: Caroline Colls, local girl makes good

Postby Kingfisher » 5 years 7 months ago (Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:30 pm)

tyger wrote:It may be significant that Jonathan Charles, the presenter of the BBC radio program that featured Ms Colls's work, is an extremely active member of B'nai B'rith.

Nicely spotted, tyger. Googling confirms that you are correct.


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