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Letter Writing

Postby Hegwood » 7 years 4 months ago (Tue May 01, 2012 12:15 am)

I am considering writing letters to newspaper editors, newspaper reporters, politicians, ministers, television news personnel, and anyone who I think has an influencial opinion explaining what a flimsy lie the holocaust is.

The type of letter I have in mind would have a heading of something like "The Holocaust Explained in Ten Minutes, The Holocaust Denied in Two"'. Each of Raul Hilberg's main categories of holocaust deaths will be amplifed with a few sentences making sure that certain key but impossible claims are addressed. This will be followed by an few paragraphs explaining what an unrealistic myth it is.

In an attempt to avoid as much as possible being labeled anti-semetic or neo-nazi and get the maximum number of individuals to read it, the letter will avoid accusing any group or government of dishonesty. It will also not try to rehabilitate the reputation of National Socialist Germany.

I would be counting on the recipients being curious enough about the holocaust controversy to at least take ten minutes to read the letter.

The expectations from such a letter would be very limited. It is very unlikely that anyone is going to publicly acknowlege having read the letter but perhaps it will give some enough doubt to refrain from promoting the holocaust knowing there are numerous individuals who know they are making public fools of themselves.

I actually think that a number of the receipiants are already in that category.

I plan on posting a draft of my letter asking for comments.

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby Kingfisher » 7 years 4 months ago (Tue May 01, 2012 1:04 pm)

Sounds like a constructive approach.

One thought about posting here, though. Do you want your recipients to be able to Google the text and find it here? Maybe if you were to upload a passworded document?

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby HaaDeeCee » 7 years 4 months ago (Tue May 01, 2012 2:35 pm)

An important part of any information campaign is to obtain feedback, be it positive or negative. And as the OP has stated himself, his expectations are minimal and I concur.

A different approach I have thought about for some time, and would encourage debate on, is a public space poster campaign whereby entire neighborhoods or cities have their telephone poles papered with posters that give a very quick headline of some claim of the holocaust that is easily refuted, with a reference given such as a YOUTUBE channel.

Here is the beauty of such an approach. Odds are in favor that some busybody will write to the local media with the assertion that "there ought to be a law" against the public display of such obvious "falsehoods", and a court order may very well be issued against further postings until a judicial hearing has been conducted into the "appropriateness" of these posters.

And holocaustians absolutely abhor any kind of judicial inquiries into their scam! After the Zuendel trials in Toronto Canada during the 1980's the Jewish community bemoaned the fact that in a trial all their assertions and lies are subjected to public scrutiny which, of course, they cannot withstand. Consequently holocaustians do not wish to see themselves debating their lies in a court, certainly not in North America where "judicial notice" in not very common I believe.

To start, one would need to identify a locale that is particularly amenable to public poster campaigns.

I truly believe that the time has come to take this issue public. The facts are on the side of the revisionists! Let's make these facts public!

What say ye?

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby Hektor » 7 years 4 months ago (Wed May 02, 2012 12:42 am)

Not that I do want to discourage you. Such letters may just scratch on the surface. Personally I think that people already know about our arguments or they are simply not interested. The problem is of course that Revisionists are grossly misrepresented by the general opinion formers. Nevertheless an open letter may have some spin-off effects. I just watched something with Noam Chomsky. He seems to have confindent faith in it, but insists that there should be a right to question it. What is interesting is the responses to what he did tell audiences or write. He was verbally attacked on public speeches about this.

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby Hegwood » 7 years 4 months ago (Wed May 02, 2012 7:30 pm)

The following is the letter I am considering. My temperament is not confrontational so I haven’t decided whether to send the letter anonymously or not.
I don’t claim to possess great literary skills nor extensive knowledge of the holocaust myth so comments, suggestions, and criticism are welcome.
The Holocaust in Ten Minutes, the Holocaust Denied in Two
The perception of the holocaust has been somewhat fluid since the end of WWII. However, for some reason “six million” seems significant to Judaism and is most often cited as the number of victims. For years it was believed that up to four million of these were murdered at Auschwitz while the remainder were victims of firing squads, slave labor, and murders in miscellaneous other concentration camps in Germany and Poland.
Raul Hilberg’s The Destruction of the European Jews has standardized the understanding of the subject in recent years. Table B-1, page 1219, of the 1985 edition of that work, is a summary of Holocaust deaths by cause of death and/or site. For brevity these can be further summarized into five major categories that account for over well over ninety percent of victims. These categories are the Action Reinhardt killing centers, Einsatzgruppen executions by firing squads, Auschwitz gas chambers, general deprivation in ghettos, and the Chelmno and Majdanek camps in Poland. Deaths by category are:
Action Reinhardt (Treblinka, Belsec, Sobibor) - 1,500,000 gassing victims
Einsatzgruppen, execution by firing squads - 1,300,000 shooting victims
Auschwitz, mostly in gas chambers - 1,000,000 gassing victims
Ghettorization&Occupation - 800,000 general deprivation victims
Kulmhof/Chelmno and Lublin/Majdanek - 200,000 primarily gassing victims
All other camps/actions about 10 significant ones- 300,000 by various causes
Total 5,100,000

All of the above numbers are estimates. None of the executions whether by Einsatzgruppen, in gas chambers, or in the ghettos are documented. There are no lists of victims. There is no count of the dead not even a record of the number of times executions were carried out. The few documented deaths are mostly from disease or other natural causes.

Action Reinhardt Camps
The Action Reinhardt camps of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor, with respective deaths of 750,000; 550,000; and 200,000 were the most deadly killing centers. These three camps were located in what is today eastern Poland, not far from the borders with Belarus and Ukraine. These camps were pure extermination camps. Only prisoners needed to operate the camps were allowed to live. All others were executed immediately upon arrival.
What is known about the operation of these camps is largely based on the reports of two members of the Jewish forced laborers of Treblinka – Chil Rajchman and Yankel Wiernik.
Trains of twenty or more carloads of Jews arrived at Treblinka were disembarked and stripped of all possessions. The men were then separated from the women and children. Both groups would be told remove all clothes to take a shower. Instead they were then forced into a building where they were subjected to a poisonous gas. Wiernik said it was diesel engine exhaust gas but Rajchman wasn’t sure. They were all dead within minutes and initially they were buried in large pits. These buried corpses were later exhumed and cremated along with all the later victims. Since there were no crematory facilities at any of the Action Reinhardt camps open air cremation was used. The following is Rajchman’s description of the cremations:
“He [the “cremation expert”] had laid out more than thirty meters of railway gauge. Right on top of the ground a pair of concrete foundations were cast, both with a height of approximately 50 centimeters. A pyre was one and a half meter wide. On top of the foundations six railway rails were placed, that was all. The expert ordered us to put women, particularly fat women, on the first layer on the roast, face down. The second layer could consist of whatever was brought – men, women or children – and so on, layer upon layer like a pyramid, up to a height of two meter.
“The dead were thrown upon the pyre by a special commando, the Feuerkolonne. Two pyre workers received the corpses brought by the carriers. The first one grabbed hold of the hand and foot on the left side of the body, while the second grabbed hold of the hand and foot on the other side, whereupon they threw the dead person on top of the pyre. Around 2,500 corpses were placed on such a pyre. Then the “expert” ordered us to lay dry branches under the roast and to light them. Within a few minutes the fire would take so it was difficult to approach the crematorium from as far as fifty meters away.”

Wiernik provided a similar but less detailed description of the cremation. His words were “It turned out that bodies of women burned more easily than those of men. Accordingly, the bodies of women were used for kindling the fires.” The cremations resulted in only ashes leaving no recognizable human remains as evidence of the massive crime.
There are very limited eye witness accounts of the other two camps, Belzec and Sobibor. That which does exist leads Holocaust scholars to conclude their operation was similar to Treblinka. This is reflected in the United States Holocaust Museum and Memorial (USHMM) descriptions.

Einsatzgruppen
The next largest category was the execution by firing squad – 1,300,000 victims. These occurred at numerous sites near all East European cities and towns with Jewish populations. Some executions were carried out in small groups of a few individuals others in groups of thousands. Victims were buried in mass graves. The firing squads were called Einsatzgruppen- Operations Groups.
The best known of these executions occurred at Babi Yar, a ravine on the outskirts of Kiev, Ukraine, where 33,000 of the city’s residents were executed and buried. In June 1942 Himmler ordered all evidence of the Einsatzgruppen executions destroyed. All bodies were exhumed and burned in a matter similar to the Treblinka cremations. There is absolutely no physical evidence that these million plus murder victims ever existed, not even in Babi Yar whose location is exactly known.

Auschwitz
Auschwitz is the most famous of holocaust sites. However, Hilberg found it was only the third most deadly. Here approximately 1,000,000 Jews were murdered in gas chambers.
Despite claims of efficient mass murder methods, the “machinery of death” was rather crude. Jews to be gassed were herded into rooms originally built as morgues - “leichenkellar” in German. Then Zyclon B pellets were poured through holes in the roofs or through windows. Hydrogen cyanide released from the pellets killed all within minutes. Sondercommando workers entered the chambers immediately and carried the bodies to crematoria located in the same building.

Ghettorization & Occupation
Hilberg attributes 800,000 holocaust deaths to general deprivation primarily in ghettos established for Jews in all larger cities in Eastern Europe. Crowded conditions and general deprivation resulted deaths mostly from disease.

Kulmhof/Chelmno and Lublin/Majdanek
These two camps were similar to the Action Reinhardt camps. Little seems to be known for certain about these camps. Hilberg claims 200,000 were killed. The USHMM has a death total of 600,000. They will not be further discussed.

The Holocaust Denied.
If you read the description of the operation of Treblinka and did not pause and say this is ridiculous then you are gullible and are not likely to get anything from the remainder of this letter.

The Rajchman and Wiernik description of the cremation of corpses are simply crude lies. They claim they saw piles of human bodies ignited using only some dry branches for kindling and watched them burn to ashes. The descriptions exclude the incorporation of wood into the pyres the only fuel necessary was women’s bodies. This is impossible, human bodies do not burn. Do a little research and find out how hard it is to cremate human corpses or equivalently dead livestock.

Since Rajchman and Wiernik are obvious liars there is no reason to believe anyone died at Treblinka. If the holocaust promoters believe that these two only lied about the cremation then there are 750,000 skeletal remains that could be exhumed to settle the controversy once and for all. The same goes for the other two Action Reinhardt sites.

Although the bodies of 1,300,000 men, women, and children, are allegedly buried in hundreds of mass graves all over Eastern Europe, none have ever been found. The alleged Einsatzgruppen executions took take place near major population centers not remote forests miles away. There should have been numerous eyewitnesses to pinpoint the exact location of the graves. The location of Babi Yar is well known yet no one has ever found any evidence of murder victims even there. The was no burning of the evidence by impossible cremations the murders simply did not occur.

The alleged choice of a murder weapon at Auschwitz was hydrogen cyanide delivered via Zyclon B pellets. Chemical tests have shown that the alleged gas chambers walls have never been exposed to hydrogen cyanide. The walls should contain iron cyanide compounds but do not.

The Auschwitz dead were cremated in standard crematoria. The crematoria were of the same type as the Germans used to cremate their loved ones but were woefully inadequate for the cremation of anywhere near a million bodies.
There are many reasons why the Auschwitz morgues were not used as gas chambers. Most of the reasons have to do with the lack of methods for safely containing the deadly cyanide gas in the chambers and safely removing it from them. Although the alleged executioners would have been indifferent to the well being of the Jewish workers, they would certainly worry about their own. No witnesses ever mention precautions around the chambers. Further, any worker entering those gas chambers within a day of an execution would not remove any bodies. He would just die and add to the problem.

Who knows how many Jews died as a result of their incarceration and use as forced labor by the Germans during World War II. To date very little honest research has been carried out in this regard. In Europe today honest research results in arrest and imprisonment. In America such research is a social taboo and is largely ignored.

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby Hektor » 7 years 4 months ago (Wed May 02, 2012 11:40 pm)

Just consider that this letter can now be linked to your username here. And the promotors do have the hobby of "gathering information".

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby SevenUp » 7 years 4 months ago (Thu May 03, 2012 7:51 am)

#1 - You should sign the letter, it is not a matter of being confrontational but it is a matter of giving a source of the letter and standing behind it. It is a matter of showing you are not afraid of the consequences that could follow, i.e. if you are a 'public' person you will be immediately and very harshly vilified.

#2 - the 'The Holocaust Explained in Ten Minutes" is extremely good. Excellent ! I have not seen a better summary of the hoax.

#3 - the 'Holocaust Denial Explained in Two Minutes' is good but can be improved I think ..... I'll make some suggestions ....

a-> I'd drop this sentence ... "If you read the description of the operation of Treblinka and did not pause and say this is ridiculous then you are gullible and are not likely to get anything from the remainder of this letter."

You don't fully grasp the effect of the tens of years of incessant propaganda, we have been conditioned to believe any absurdity regarding the hoax and we do .... this line is in Elie Weisel's 'Night' - "Babies were thrown into the air and used as targets by machine gunners." and this book is recommended reading in many schools. The holocaust revels in absurdity ....

No one is likely to be convinced by your letter, it is impossible to overcome the conditioning in one letter, the best you can hope for is to shock them enough to produce an inkling of doubt, or some sort of cognitive dissonance that will get them to have some questions themselves, and to have some reaction other than disgust with you !

For this reason I think you need facts, maybe pictures in your letter. E.g. - the door with the window to the hoax gas chamber at Auschwitz, the picture of the smiling kids at the liberation of Belsen, the picture of the hospital or the orchestra at Auschwitz.

This reminds me .... you do not address the one issue that must be addressed - the pictures of piles of bodies that everyone has seen and that has made the hoax a reality for most people. Here you have to have a reference for the 35,000 that died of typhus at Belsen ... see the link to the USA Today article at http://www.holohoax101.com

b-> The alleged choice of a murder weapon at Auschwitz was hydrogen cyanide delivered via Zyclon B pellets. You need to point out that Zyclon B was the commercial insecticide that was used at Auschwitz and all of Europe for killing lice that spread typhus. You need to point out that the Nazis used fumigation rooms where Zyclon was used to delouse clothing and that these rooms still exist at Auschwitz and are never shown to visitors. You have to deal with the typhus deaths.

c->Who knows how many Jews died as a result of their incarceration The Nazis kept complete and extensive records of the number of people who died, including doctor signed death certificates for every death, and these records were captured more or less intact at Auschwitz which we know about because the Russians revealed the data in 1990, and other camps we don't know about because the US/Brits have hidded the data they captured TO THIS DAY. In fact the Red Cross/ITS did estimate in earlier times the total number of deaths to be on the order of 300,000.

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby jheitwler » 7 years 4 months ago (Thu May 03, 2012 12:47 pm)

Hegwood wrote:The Holocaust in Ten Minutes, the Holocaust Denied in Two
The perception of the holocaust has been somewhat fluid since the end of WWII. However, for some reason “six million” seems significant to Judaism and is most often cited as the number of victims.


You lost your audience with that sentence. Any mention of Jews, Judaism, Israel, etc. is going to come across as antisemitism. The fact that Jews and Zionists were instrumental in establishing and benefit enormously from the Holocaust is not the problem. The problem is that the Holocaust isn't the truth.
"First of all there is the fact that if we assume the Holocaust to have happened more or less as told, all the evidence becomes intelligible, while if we assume it was a hoax, most of the evidence does not make any sense." - Robert Jan Van Pelt

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Re: Letter Writing

Postby Hektor » 7 years 4 months ago (Fri May 04, 2012 12:28 am)

For beginners one needs to avoid to controversial issues and focus on what is essential.


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