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Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Sun May 06, 2012 7:45 am)

I have been challenging people to debate me on the Deanna Spingola Radio Show without any takers so far.

I intend to debate the specific claims about how the Nazis supposedly gassed people to death. I have also posted about two hundred challenges to self-described "holocaust survivors" on Facebook and on YouTube as to how they could have possibly "survived." If the Nazis had wanted to kill them, why didn't they do it? The Facebook challenges were ALL deleted within only about two weeks by Facebook and now I cannot even get back on Facebook to post new challenges, or replies to detractors. Obviously, Facebook has no intention of ever being an open forum for holocaust denial. The YouTube challenges are still there as far as I know but as time goes by they are in effect buried by new comments.

A few days ago I also began challenging some other people including Mark Weber and Michael Shermer. Both Weber and Shermer have already turned down my challenges. And now the followup debate as to why they declined my challenges can begin. No doubt, Mark Weber has a great deal to hide about his duplicitous and destructive behaviour at the Institute for Historical Review and on the Hannity & Colmes TV Show at the time of the revisionist conference in Iran. Shermer claimed he did not even know who I was. Others will be challenged also but their names will generally be withheld until they have replied to my challenges. Roberto Muehlenkamp will have his chance to debate me as well if he is still interested. David Irving would be welcome also but the upfront m-o-n-e-y that he seems to need to do anything is not available.

I have already offered to debate any and all "holocaust survivors" as anyone can see on my website. A standard reply apparently written from someone at USHMM said they will categorically NOT debate any holocaust deniers.

The debate format for the Deanna Spingola show is about as convenient and open as anything one can imagine. Over about two hours, the debates would be conducted by telephone--but they will recorded for posterity and with easy access from anywhere through the internet.

My next scheduled appearance on the Deanna Spingola Radio Show will be on May 16, 2012. Callers will be more than welcome for the entire show after some brief introductory remarks. A kind of very informal debate can begin already on that show.

I urge everyone, especially on this forum, to make similar challenges whenever and wherever an opportunity arises. The defenders of the hoax seem to be genuinely terrified.

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Blogbuster » 7 years 5 months ago (Mon May 07, 2012 11:14 am)

Hello,

What about the infamous bloggers Nick Terry and Roberto Muehlenkamp? Were they challenged?

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Mon May 07, 2012 12:39 pm)

Roberto Muehlenkamp and I had agreed to debate some time ago but the project fell apart when I left it to Muehlenkamp to arrange the actual debate. I have not contacted him since about any debate. I do not even have his email address but he can certainly reach me easily enough at [email protected] and we can then probably have a radio debate on the Spingola show in late June.

As to Nick Terry, he and I can debate also but I do not have his email address either.

The great outcome of debates on the radio or on the internet is that we can all learn in the process. I learned a lot from my debates on RODOH and CODOH and elsewhere over many years. When people refuse to debate, I think it also means they are too proud and arrogant to admit they can still learn anything--they know it all already.

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Hannover » 7 years 5 months ago (Mon May 07, 2012 1:12 pm)

Muehlenkamp has been demolished at this forum, repeatedly. As for Terry, he registered and got cold feet, and ran from debate. But we have his viewpoints, same as Muehlenkamp's, and well, same results.

An informed Revisionist debating these shysters is just too easy. Look them up on this forum and see.

Here's a number of threads from Muehlenkamp and others like him.

for Roberto Muehlenkamps, aka 'Cortavagatas:

follow this mercifully short thread from the former CODOH bbs:
http://forum.codoh.com/codoh/493.html

'gas chambers' were hosed down, so no cyanide'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3706

'Those Prussian Blues Just Won't Wash'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4600

'Roberto Muehlenkamp: no fuel required for Auschwitz ovens'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3703

'Roberto Muehlenkamp shredded on 'gassings' & cyanide'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=224

'Roberto Muehlenkamp debunked on 3.5kg of coke cremations'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=420

'Cremation patent & 3.5 kg of coke per corpse debunked'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=88

holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2841

'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

See Sergey Romanov, implode here:
'Human soap & Human skin lampshades debunked'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=481

'An example of Sergey Romanov's scholarship'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3354

Sergey Romanov - problems with Filip Mueller and Rudolf Vrba
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3525

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby borjastick » 7 years 5 months ago (Tue May 08, 2012 1:02 am)

Debates with the Holohoaxers will never happen because they have too much lose and nothing to gain.

They have the high ground and by debating under open terms they could lose that high ground.

Real debates are between two or more sides that believe their own BS but are prepared to discuss in the public domain and accept the result from the viewers.

Any debate about the holohoax would take about a minute to drop into slander, abuse, accusations of anti semitism and any other technique available.

We need a debate and it would certainly be fun but it won't happen so perhaps attention should be focussed elsewhere.
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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Tue May 08, 2012 8:50 am)

Debates with holohoaxers are happening all the time. In the vast majority of cases, the debates are informal on discussion forums on the internet, or by way of comments on YouTube or on blogs. They also occur between ordinary people in their day to day encounters.

The fact that I and others are also more than willing to debate on the major media is in itself a victory even if we are denied the opportunity because of the Jewish bigotry that is out there. Will there be a holohoax debate with Tom Brokaw or Dianne Sawyer moderating? Of course, not! But such people as Tom Brokaw are almost irrelevant already. The world and especially the major media are changing. The major media is the internet today.

So, go ahead revisionists and challenge the hoaxers wherever and whenever you find them. They can't really hide behind their veils of security and "respectability" anymore.

The debate process itself is extremely educational--for us! For example, in my own experience I spent many years arguing that diesel exhaust for mass extermination was totally aburd and incredible which it certainly is. What I learned only gradually was that hardly anyone--including auto mechanics and even some "diesel mechanics"-- has even the most basic grasp of what a diesel engine is, or that diesel exhaust was supposedly used according to Hilberg and other holocaust "scholars" far more widely than cyanide or Zyklon-B for mass murder of far more people. Both Mark Weber and David Irving never even understood that. Effective arguments are NOT made by arguing with phantoms about things that are totally beyond the grasp of the vast majority of people effected by the hoax.

So, get out there and debate with everyone. It is healthy for your brain and spirit--but stay out of jail.

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Tue May 08, 2012 10:35 pm)

Some people have contacted me as to why I would even want to debate Mark Weber who seems like a holocaust revisionist himself.

The facts are that Mark Weber merely nibbles around the edges of the hoax while never denying it and while still maintaining (listen carefully) that millions were deliberately killed by the Germans. A recent podcast from him posted today makes this appallingly clear--but only if one listens to the very end of the longwinded broadcast. At no time does Weber even dispute the "six million" number. At no time does Weber dispute the claim that Jews were gassed to death either with cyanide, or Zyklon-B, or with diesel exhaust. He relies overwhelmingly on the statements and diary of Joseph Goebbels and on Jewish sources. No revisionist is mentioned even once other than himself. Listen to the podcast for yourselves:

http://reasonradionetwork.com/20120425/ ... nd-reality

Weber admits that Anne Frank was not exterminated at Auschwitz but is either unaware or unwilling to acknowledge the simple fact that the Nazis kept her and countless other Jews alive, as best they could, under the horrendous circumstances created by the Allies especially in the last months of the war.

In my opinion, Weber's performance is purest sleaze meant to look scholarly and even "reivisionist," at least revisionist enough to keep some really dumb contributors writing a few checks for him and the IHR he effectively destroyed all by himself years ago.

Perhaps the USHMM can give him a job. Why not?

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Thu May 10, 2012 7:32 pm)

An important reason to DEBATE Mark Weber and David Irving is to finally get some clarity from each of them as to where they stand as far as the great hoax is concerned. What do they really believe--and why? Both of them, but especially Mark Weber, have lived off the revisionist community for years. They have both conned people into believing they were "holocaust deniers" while also undermining revisionists whenever it suited them. They have both been talking out of many sides of their mouths. It is high time that they really defend themselves and stand up for whatever they really believe.

Weber should resign from the IHR and turn over his position to someone who really does support holocaust revisionism. Germar Rudolf seems like an excellent choice as the next director of the IHR--but there are others as well. We could then have a revisonist journal again and so much more.


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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Wed May 16, 2012 7:32 pm)

Roberto Muehlenkamp has agreed to debate me on the Deanna Spingola Radio Show. The date and time are still to be decided but a late June debate seems highly likely.

This should be an important confrontation between myself and probably the most ardent and "scholarly" of the holocaust-believing crowd, or what is left of it. Many years of internet debates between Muehlenkamp and myself came to a sudden end with the demise of the RODOH discussion forum. I suspect that the major reason for why RODOH ended was that I thoroughly crushed Muehlenkamp. The record was there for everyone to read on RODOH--but not any longer because of the disappearance of RODOH.

At least, Muehlenkamp stands up and debates revisionists. One should contrast his behaviour with the despicable cowardice of people like Mark Weber. Weber takes all of the revisionist money he can possibly grab--and continually appeals for even more--but, refuses to debate me as he stabs ALL holocaust revisionists in the back. David Irving is only slightly better. At least, Irving never pushed himself into the position of "director" of the world's leading holocaust revisionist organization which is what the Institute for Historical Review was before Mark Weber effectively destroyed it nearly ten years ago.

Norman Finkelstein has also been challenged but has not responded. Finkelstein continues to insist that although his parents "survived" the holocaust, ALL of his other relatives on both of his parents' sides of the family were "exterminated" by the Nazis. Although Finkelstein can be proud of the fact that he has been branded an anti-Semite by Alan Dershowitz, he is a LIAR regarding the "holocaust."


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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Charles Traynor » 7 years 5 months ago (Thu May 17, 2012 7:44 am)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:Roberto Muehlenkamp has agreed to debate me on the Deanna Spingola Radio Show. The date and time are still to be decided but a late June debate seems highly likely.

This should be an important confrontation between myself and probably the most ardent and "scholarly" of the holocaust-believing crowd, or what is left of it. Many years of internet debates between Muehlenkamp and myself came to a sudden end with the demise of the RODOH discussion forum. I suspect that the major reason for why RODOH ended was that I thoroughly crushed Muehlenkamp. The record was there for everyone to read on RODOH--but not any longer because of the disappearance of RODOH.



This is marvellous news. Things have been a little stale in Holohoax land since the demise of RODOH and this forthcoming debate is just the tonic needed to perk things up.

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Blogbuster » 7 years 5 months ago (Thu May 17, 2012 8:08 am)

This is interesting news! Can we also submit some questions to be asked of Muehlenkamp? Or is the format fixed?
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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Blogbuster » 7 years 5 months ago (Thu May 17, 2012 9:01 am)

Muehlenkamp has never accepted challenges in the past, only postured.

He's also dodged the ARC teleconference challenge for almost 2-years. He is far from brave, rather he's another silly Internet oddity with little to do but create controversy he can't or won't defend.
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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 5 months ago (Thu May 17, 2012 9:13 am)

The format for the debate is NOT fixed at all. Essentially, all that is fixed are the time constraints. The debate is more than likely to be a free-for-all but that is nothing new to people who have been debating on the internet as both Muehlenkamp and I have for many years. There will be no panel of judges to decide who won afterward--except for the listeners.

The debate will last for two hours less commercial breaks. Each of us will have equal intervals of time to say whatever we want to say. It is not envisaged that there will be any questions from the moderator, Deanna Spingola.

If someone has questions that they would like raised, they might post them here. Perhaps they can be worked in somehow but it seems unlikely.

Recordings of broadcasts of the Deanna Spingola Radio Show are childishly easy for almost everyone anywhere in the world to listen to. Yesterday (May 16, 2012), I did a show with Deanna which everyone can listen to also--just search for the "Deanna Spingola Radio Show."

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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby Blogbuster » 7 years 4 months ago (Tue May 22, 2012 12:34 pm)

So when is this debate going to happen?
I would like to hear Roberto Muehlenkamp justify his lies about the HEART and ARC people. I would like to hear him defend his poor historical research and the numerous accusations of plagiarism surrounding his AR Critique aka "The cut and paste manifesto".
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Re: Challenge to DEBATE the Holocaust and Gassing Claims

Postby truth » 7 years 4 months ago (Tue May 22, 2012 5:37 pm)

You guys should teach a webinar about your perspectives.


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