The Jew and Internet censorship

[Charles Traynor]

Can ultra-orthodox Jews live with the web?


22 May 2012 Last updated at 01:13 GMT

When New York City's web-phobic ultra-orthodox Jews wanted to discuss how to face the challenge posed to their community by the growth of the internet, they could hardly set up a Google Hangout or host a webinar.

With tens of thousands keen to take part, the community needed a big venue. On Sunday 40,000 men filled Citi Field, home to the New York Mets baseball team, to chart a way forward.

Amid concern over the dangers the internet poses to traditional morality, organisers said the discussion focused on how to protect children from pornography and violent sites. The proliferation of social media was also a key concern.

The event, sponsored by the ultra-orthodox Jewish group Ichud Hakehillos Letohar Hamachane, featured prayers and speeches from spiritual leaders. Tickets sold out quickly, and the organisers rented a nearby stadium to accommodate another 20,000 people. There were separate women's events in other venues.

Across the road demonstrators staged a protest, complaining that sensitive subjects - including child abuse allegations - were being ignored while the internet was identified as a source of problem and sin.

Despite a media ban the BBC received exclusive amateur video from inside the stadium, and spoke with attendees at both the protest and the rally.
Produced by Anna Bressanin. Camera by Ilya Shnitser.

Amateur video courtesy of Eli Gleiberman.

[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18155404]

After coming across this page on the BBC news website I couldn’t help thinking that those Jews in the New York Mets stadium would regard CODOH as an abuse site that needs to be silenced. It’s a damned shame that as the Internet becomes more populated the power of the traditional enemies of freedom seems to grow correspondingly. Twelve years ago no one would have batted an eyelid about RODOH’s content ― now that forum is lost to the world forever. Regardless of one’s opinion of RODOH I think most would agree that it should never have been censored by YUKU merely because they feared getting on the wrong side of the Jew.

What does the future hold for privately owned websites like CODOH in the near future? Will the Jew with the help of their Goy lackeys in the US government finally manage to silence freedom of speech on the Internet by 2025?

PS. I’m glad I don’t live in New York.

[truth]

I am sure they would do that. But it is too late. Many bought the forbidden books already and they will be passed on. Also, humanity is still a but unawakened there is the Hundreds Monkey Syndrome. This $#ite will catch on.

[Steven Willow]

Something sounds fishy about this gathering of jews, Charles Traynor, as their so called concerns about filth and pornography are a smokescreen for the real issues that you have identified too clearly. Why would jews worry about pornography as they invented it and control it?

When large groups of jews gather for public speeches, you can bet that the real action takes place below the surface, in private rooms where the jews who invented Facebook and other cultural polutants plan their attacks away from the eyes of Goyim. The true intention of these jews is to use pornography to distract the public away from the truth about their bloody Hoax. Ultimately, one can be assured that these same jews are plotting to remove CODOH from their fiefdom of public media. That is why we need other means to get the truth out, even if it means handing out pamphlets on the street.

[truth]

You need to make many mirror sites. That is the only way to preserve this sharing. The world has a right think explore this topic freely without problems and come to their own conclusions. That alone is freedom.

[Steven Willow]

You need to make many mirror sites. That is the only way to preserve this sharing. The world has a right think explore this topic freely without problems and come to their own conclusions. That alone is freedom.

There is no question that every effort and precaution should be utilised to extend our message to the public. Mirror sites, rogue radio and mass leafletting, even using small planes to drop pamphlets
will help to reach those few open minded individuals who might have no access to the truth. The campaign should be expanded to other tactics should jews strongarm the internet.

[Moderator]

This forum and CODOH in general have taken excellent precautions. We know the Holocaust Industry is getting desperate.
M1

[twila]

Moderator:

We know the Holocaust Industry is getting desperate.

That's my feeling too.

I can't explain it / put a finger on it exactly, but that is what I'm sensing.

Maybe this is what I'm sensing:

I can't prove this, but I get the feeling that they are not falling for their own lies like they used to.

They are not only masters of the big lie, but masters of self-deception as well.

When their noses are shoved into their own lies as often and as hard as they are whenever they dare come to a site like this, it starts to have an effect.

I think Nick Terry is a very good example of this.

He has been beaten up so badly so many times that he doesn't dare enter the fray anymore.

But because he's so morally corrupt, he's chosen to just fade away rather than admit that he was wrong and what a fool he was for falling for such nonsense.

The downfall of rodoh and the joke that calls itself Holocaust Controversies are other examples.

[HaaDeeCee]

I concur that "the times they are a-changing" with regards to the big H debate.

The National Post, a Canadian newspaper previously owned by the Jewish Asper family of Winnipeg, was a most pro-Zionist apologist for Israel, where any postings raising doubt about the veracity of holocaust claims were quickly removed.

As recently as 2 years ago it would have been unthinkable to have had a debate such as occurred recently. Please see:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/12 ... /#Comments

While holocaustians still spew their bile, the postings questioning various aspects of the "gassing" are left intact.

I noticed that the Globe and Mail Toronto paper also permits much more penetrating postings.

HdC.

[Blogbuster]

Interesting topic. I agree with Twila, and the Hate Blog Watch group also claim that Nick Terry, Sergey Romanov, and Roberto Muehlenkamp appealed to similar sensitivities in order to bring down Scott Smith's RODOH forum in so they could have all their previous imcriminating posts removed from the Internet.

The hypocrisy of these pseudo historians is mind boggling as they will sling vitriol and hatred on their Holocaust Controversies blog yet try to silence the voice of others.

By the way read an interesting post about these guys at the Diary of Daedalus here is the link:

http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/05/2 ... the-world/

[twila]

Blogbuster:

The hypocrisy of these pseudo historians [Nick Terry, Sergey Romanov, and Roberto Muehlenkamp] is mind boggling as they will sling vitriol and hatred on their Holocaust Controversies blog yet try to silence the voice of others.

The problem with this statemet Blogbuster, is Carmelo Lisciotto and Chris Webb are as as cowardly and hypocritical, and in many cases more so, than the HC crowd you habitually attack.

Lisciotto and Webb are cut out of the same cloth as Terry, Romanov, and Muehlenkamp, as well as Irving and Weber.

Why are you so selective in your attacks on pseudo historians who are lacking in courage and character?

In fact, I can't think of anyone in the holocaust industry who is more actively involved in censoring the internet than the cowardly Carmelo Lisciotto:

Mr. Lisciotto's illustrious career includes working with a number of highly recognized organizations such as the FBI, the National Security Agency... the United Nations...

http://hateblogwatch.nazihunter.net/The ... 0HEART.htm

[Blogbuster]

Twila,
I have not seen any evidence whatsoever about Lisciotto or Webb doing anything wrong or hypocritical. They are Holocaust believers and make no bones about that. Where are they hypocritical? Unlike the HC group who claim to be anti-revisionist, but attack other believers worse than they attack the revisionists, Lisciotto/Webb appear from their websites to be direct and straight forward. I simply don't see the correlation?

If you are a revisionist and don't buy what Webb and Lisciotto peddle on their HEART website I have no problem with that, to each their own. But at least those guys aren't pretending to be something they are not. Who here at CODOH has had a run in with either of them? I myself have written to them countless times and never even received a response. Have you? Has anyone here?

If not, then why make the blatant accusation? I think its clear that many here have experienced Terry, Romanov, and Muehlenkamp first hand and it was probably an experience that left much to be desired.


But what do the HEART founders have to do with the death of RODOH? I have reported about the HC connection with RODOH's demise because the HC guys, namely Terry, Muehlenkamp and Romanov all clearly played some role in it, or I will concede that I believe they played a role in it, and so do the folks at Hate Blog Watch.

Where do Lisciotto and Webb fit into the equation? I'm confused?

It’s the hypocrisy and propagation of false history by people who know the history is false that perturbs me. That is my reason for “habitually” exposing the HC group. They are an Internet phenomenon of a most curious sort. Borderline schizophrenic, bi-polar personalities coupled with a tenacious desire to attack people they don’t even know with a zealousness that simply isn’t normal.

I don’t expose HC out of any concern for Lisciotto or Webb, but rather because of what HC tried to do to those guys and the veritable mountain of evidence they left behind that provides material to work with. The HC group has since learned and corrected their approach. They don’t attack others a sloppily as they did Webb and Lisciotto and we may never have the opportunity to expose them with this level of verified proof again.

[SnakeTongue]

I think Nick Terry is a very good example of this.

He has been beaten up so badly so many times that he doesn't dare enter the fray anymore.

But because he's so morally corrupt, he's chosen to just fade away rather than admit that he was wrong and what a fool he was for falling for such nonsense.

The downfall of rodoh and the joke that calls itself Holocaust Controversies are other examples.

I have been dealing with Dr Nicholas Terry in the JREF forum. He is still up and running.

Regarding the Internet censorship, I have been recently refused to discuss mathematical formulas in the Physics forum because it deals with Holocaust denial.

The threat is not Internet censorship but the concept which was created to oppose historical criticism: Holocaust denial.

[MorrisT]

I think Nick Terry is a very good example of this.

He has been beaten up so badly so many times that he doesn't dare enter the fray anymore.

But because he's so morally corrupt, he's chosen to just fade away rather than admit that he was wrong and what a fool he was for falling for such nonsense.

The downfall of rodoh and the joke that calls itself Holocaust Controversies are other examples.

I have been dealing with Dr Nicholas Terry in the JREF forum. He is still up and running.

Regarding the Internet censorship, I have been recently refused to discuss mathematical formulas in the Physics forum because it deals with Holocaust denial.

The threat is not Internet censorship but the concept which was created to oppose historical criticism: Holocaust denial.

I have read some of the writings of this person Dr. Nick Terry. At first I assumed he was simply a pre-pubescent teen acting up behind a computer, then later learned he actually teaches at a University in the United Kingdom. I was a bit shocked to learn this.