borjastick wrote:Nessie said this:Denier/revisionists need to evidence why they are right to dismiss so many thousands of witnesses as lying or mistaken when we know already witnesses get it wrong at times, but right on many occasions.
It seems to that many of the 'thousands of witnesses' he refers to actually don't bear witness to much more than being sent to camps where not a lot happened or was actually seen directly to have happened by the witness them self. Thus their witness value is slim. The witnesses I am concerned with are those who claim they saw mass shootings, gassings, or are absolutely certain the murder of six million jews happened.
It is these witness statements that are spurious precisely because they have not been proven, and because the weight attached to these statements is disproportionate. Thus the expectation of belief is high and yet without back up of genuine evidence of these claims.
What proof would you accept? How is the weight attached to witnesses disproportionate?
borjastick wrote:When it comes down to it there are nothing like hundreds let alone thousands of witness statements that are bizarre but the mad ones seem to have control of the message. What I ask is are these statements self generated or part of a holocaust marketing project?
The bottom line is the evidence isn't available to prove the claims and yet we are supposedly not allowed to ask for it.
Witnesses include the thousands who were in selections, saw relatives, neighbours and friends marched off to where there were gas chambers and despite extensive searching have never seen them again.
Then finding those who doubt the existence of gas chambers like Rassinier to be truthful, but he was never at a camp where there was a gas chamber. So how is he truthful? Is it just because he doubts the existence of gas chambers?
You have not evidenced a mass witness conspiracy to any sort of satisfactory state, yet you believe it and dismiss the much better evidenced narrative of the Holocaust from the academics.