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The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Mat » 7 years 2 months ago (Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:42 pm)

Is the "pond of ashes" at auschwitz the largest mass grave claimed to exist there?

http://auschwitz-2012.blogspot.com/2012 ... ashes.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/erinfisher/2132056265/

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Hannover » 7 years 2 months ago (Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:06 pm)

Mat wrote:Is the "pond of ashes" at auschwitz the largest mass grave claimed to exist there?


What ashes?

If there really are ashes, which has not been proven, what proof do you have that they are human remains? Or perhaps it's really a garbage dump now said to be "human ashes". Very simple.

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 7 years 2 months ago (Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:56 am)

Mat wrote:Is the "pond of ashes" at auschwitz the largest mass grave claimed to exist there?

http://auschwitz-2012.blogspot.com/2012 ... ashes.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/erinfisher/2132056265/


The largest mass grave (if the hoax were true, which it's not) would have been at Treblinka II.

700,000 - 800,000 bodies were claimed to have been buried there between July 22, 1942 and Feb 1943. After which they were supposed exhumed and burnt, on Himmler's orders.

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Creox » 7 years 2 months ago (Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:47 pm)

Mat

do you have any idea how many pounds of ash hundreds of thousands of corpses would produce? The pond of ashes is hogwash. There would always be many teeth, bone fragments etc.

There is no doubt people were cremated at the camps that housed crematoriums but there was a simple reason for that. Many people died from disease and other non genocidal reasons and were
cremated after they died but the number of people said to have been killed at this camp would be easy to find if they threw their ashes into a pond that size.

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Amir » 7 years 2 months ago (Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:27 am)

I thought I heard once that there was more than one "ash pond" at Auschwitz.

Is there a map of Auschwitz that shows the location of all the claimed graves and ponds?

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby borjastick » 7 years 1 month ago (Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:08 am)

http://auschwitz-2012.blogspot.fr/2012/ ... ashes.html

This blog by TheBlackRabbitofInle is well worth the time to explore.
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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 7 years 1 month ago (Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:04 pm)

Nazis used ashes of Jews to grit icy roads

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO0ZpqC7FIU[/youtube]

http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic ... 36&t=19207

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Hektor » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:06 am)

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek wrote:Nazis used ashes of Jews to grit icy roads

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO0ZpqC7FIU[/youtube]

http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic ... 36&t=19207

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Excuse found, problem solved I guess.

But wait. Soon we will be shown some teeth and bone fragments. And this innuendo is then supposed to prove mass extermination.

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Amir » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:23 am)

borjastick:

http://auschwitz-2012.blogspot.fr/2012/ ... ashes.html

This blog by TheBlackRabbitofInle is well worth the time to explore.


Thank you borjastick but I did not find any map showing the location of mass graves at Auschwitz on that page.

Or any other "ash ponds."

So is the official story of Auschwitz that ALL the cremated remains were dumped in the "ash pond?"

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby borjastick » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:49 pm)

Not sure what the 'official' story would be, after all if you read different accounts from different sources the story changes. Additionally what they tell you on a tour of the place might differ again. Anyway as far as I know there are no mass graves at Auschwitz. The ash pond wasn't the sole place for ashes to be disposed of, stories tell they were spread on local farmland to act as fertilizer. But you should be warned about the total numbers of dead and cremated claimed. Records of coke deliveries show that very little was delivered. Best to search a recent post here to discover more on this fascinating element of the practical aspect of cremation and weight of coke required.
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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Amir » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:54 pm)

Thanks borjastick, I'll keep searching and report anything that I find.

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Amir » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:02 pm)

Hannover:

What ashes?

If there really are ashes, which has not been proven, what proof do you have that they are human remains? Or perhaps it's really a garbage dump now said to be "human ashes". Very simple.


So as far as anyone on this forum knows, no cremated reamins have ever been found at Auschwitz?

That seems inconceivable to me.

I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just saying it's a hard fact to wrap my mind around.

I once saw a photo of cremation urns in a camp. Was this in Auschwitz?

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Amir » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:09 pm)

I found the folowing information and photo here:

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Auschwitz ... tz08B.html

The photo below, taken in the Buchenwald crematorium, shows the type of urns used by the Nazis at all the concentration camps.


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Why would the Nazi's, if they were attempting to "destroy all evidence of their crime," put all that incriminating evidence into urns?

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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby borjastick » 7 years 1 month ago (Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:38 am)

Why indeed.

I haven't seen this photo before, but if true it does in fact show the consideration and care the German camps employed towards the prisoners. Another nail in the coffin of the great holocaust con. Though one would have to ask where are the urns for all the other camps which would amount to some several million if one agrees the death toll.

Can anyone spread any light on these urns and their whereabouts in all the camps?
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Re: The "ash pond" of auschwitz

Postby Kingfisher » 7 years 1 month ago (Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:12 am)

On the same page as the photo of the urns:
According to a book entitled "Auschwitz" which I purchased at the camp, the three ovens had a capacity of 340 bodies in a 24 hour period...

So, each oven could dispose of 4 to 5 bodies per hour in continuous operation. Don't they even stop to think before they write this stuff? (The museum, not the scrapbook pages.)


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