The Negro Soldier

Read and post various viewpoints or search our large archives.

Moderator: Moderator

Forum rules
Be sure to read the Rules/guidelines before you post!
Friedrich Paul Berg
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 938
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:16 am

The Negro Soldier

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:31 pm)

One piece of official US war propaganda is a wartime film entitled: The Negro Soldier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRUeOObzY4o (new window)

It was one of Frank Capra's "masterpieces." Although Capra was not Jewish (which he regretted later in life as he explained as a reason for his not being much more successful in Hollywood), it seems that most of the writers and others directly involved in making this piece of racist filth, like Ben Hecht, were Jews. It was a Hollywood film, after all, even though the US taxpayer paid for it.

Listen especially to the film from about 4:40 to about 6:30. The negro pastor in a beautiful gothic-style church (just like so many negro churches of that time--that is a joke) supposedly quotes some text directly from Mein Kampf. ( I have not been able to find any such text in Mein Kampf). But then he slyly pulls out another piece of paper (watch very carefully) from the same book and reads from the paper at about 5:50. That text says that Hitler and Germany must e-x-t-e-r-m-i-n-a-t-e everyone on the planet who stands against them--including "Slavs, Russians, Poles, and Czechs." Certainly, there is nothing like that in Mein Kampf--but the American public, by this point, is totally fooled into believing they are being given a verifiable picture of Nazi Germany that showed typical German indoctrination at that time from either Mein Kampf, or wherever.

American soldiers in Germany were so surprised later, even shocked and outraged to hear Germans deny thay had ever been given any such propaganda ever during the entire war. Few realized that it was the Americans who had been totally brainwashed and lied to by their own government just as Americans were totally lied to only ten years ago about mobile poison gas making labs in Iraq by America's Secretary of State Colin Powell

Shame on America!

Image
Friedrich Paul Berg

Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com
Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
Last edited by Friedrich Paul Berg on Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

User avatar
Hannover
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 9892
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2002 7:53 pm

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Hannover » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:55 pm)

And then there is Jesse Owens, a black Olympic athlete, who debunks the lies that Hitler snubbed him because of his race.

Jesse Owens on the podium after winning the long jump at the 1936 Summer Olympics:
When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man of the hour in Germany.

and:
Hitler didn't snub me—it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram.

Hitler was forbidden by Olympic officials from visiting any athletes after their events. Hence the lie that Hitler deliberately avoided Owens is exposed.

Jesse Owens was never invited to the White House nor bestowed any honors by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) or Harry S. Truman during their terms.

- Hannover
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

User avatar
Hektor
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 3357
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:59 am

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Hektor » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:40 pm)

I guess one can look into Frank Capra propaganda movies and screen it for Holocaust claims.

Friedrich Paul Berg
Valuable asset
Valuable asset
Posts: 938
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:16 am

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 7 years 1 month ago (Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:07 pm)

The quoted passage from Mein Kampf actually appears in Volume 2 of Mein Kampf, Chapter II, The State. See the pdf, page 334 at:
http://mk.christogenea.org/_files/Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20Mein%20Kampf%20english%20translation%20unexpurgated%201939.pdf

It is very interesting to compare the entire passage with the ways in which it was "edited" for the pastor's speech. A comparison with the actual German text is even more startling.

Image

Friedrich Paul Berg

Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com
Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
Last edited by Friedrich Paul Berg on Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

Wings
Member
Member
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:41 am

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Wings » 7 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:38 am)

There were some Negros in the Wehrmacht, including German Negros of course, and, also American Negros, as well as those who were from France, or other European Countries at the time, and also Black Units from North Africa, these were all men who Volentered.

User avatar
Kladderadatsch
Valued contributor
Valued contributor
Posts: 255
Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:08 am

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Kladderadatsch » 7 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:18 am)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:The quoted passage from Mein Kampf actually appears in Volume 2 of Mein Kampf, Chapter II, The State. See the pdf, page 334 at:
http://mk.christogenea.org/_files/Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20Mein%20Kampf%20english%20translation%20unexpurgated%201939.pdf

It is very interesting to compare the entire passage with the ways in which it was "edited" for the pastor's speech. A comparison with the actual German text is even more startling.


The passage quoted from Mein Kampf is racist in an ugly way, but no more so than the rhetoric you might find in the writings or speeches of certain American politicians of the time. For sure, the film is hypocritical in that respect.

That said, I may be missing something but I don't see too much that I'd call "startling" when comparing the original and the translated texts. I do agree, however, that the quotation has to be taken in context. Hitler's rhetoric is nasty in places (no one likes being called a "half ape" [Halbaffe]), but his broader point is not so much to beat down on the black man as to point out the injustice of programs that artificially promote the less capable in the interests of "racial equality." In other words, it's basically an argument against affirmative action, before "Affirmative Action":

From time to time our illustrated papers publish, for the edification of the German philistine, the news that in some quarter or other of the globe, and for the first time in that locality, a Negro has become a lawyer, a teacher, a pastor, even a grand opera tenor or something else of that kind. While the bourgeois blockhead stares with amazed admiration at the notice that tells him how marvellous are the achievements of our modern educational technique, the more cunning Jew sees in this fact a new proof to be utilized for the theory with which he wants to infect the public, namely that all men are equal. It does not dawn on the murky bourgeois mind that the fact which is published for him is a sin against reason itself, that it is an act of criminal insanity to train a being who is only an anthropoid by birth until the pretence can be made that he has been turned into a lawyer; while, on the other hand, millions who belong to the most civilized races have to remain in positions which are unworthy of their cultural level. The bourgeois mind does not realize that it is a sin against the will of the eternal Creator to allow hundreds of thousands of highly gifted people to remain floundering in the swamp of proletarian misery while Hottentots and Zulus are drilled to fill positions in the intellectual professions. For here we have the product only of a drilling technique, just as in the case of the performing dog. If the same amount of care and effort were applied among intelligent races each individual would become a thousand times more capable in such matters.


The red portion is more or less what we get in the Capra film, as "tweaked" for an American audience. The rest is what Capra left out.
Last edited by Kladderadatsch on Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Der grosse Kladderadatsch war da.

-- D. Eckart Der Bolschewismus von Moses bis Lenin, "Er"

Raymond
Member
Member
Posts: 80
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:56 pm

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Raymond » 7 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:23 pm)

Oh yeah, because you would NEVER see similar things written in America in the 1920s or 30s. . . . of 40s, 50s, 60s . . . . Come on! Yes, it is disgusting and racist, but halfapes such as myself were busy being lynched over here during that time period.

Early pictures clearly show black members of the Freikorps, the Stahlhelmbund and SA. In other words, black members of the Nazi party and movement, not just members of the armed forces, but the political party.

Black-American Valaida Snow toured German occupied areas in 1941 but was arrested for drug-possession in Denmark only to be released 18 months later. With the outbreak of War, black-Germans wanted to fight for their country just like any other German. Black-Germans were able to enlist, others were recruited for fighting in Tunisia. When black-German Werner Egiomue was initially turned down when he tried to enlist, he protested “I’m German, I want to fight.” He was enlisted. Even more interestingly, were the cases of Norbert Desiree and Louis Joachim Eugene, both part of the thousands of French volunteers in the German Wehrmacht, both black. . . halfape.

There were black volunteers in the North African Arab Battalions, including the Freies Arabien Legion, as well as the 950th Infantry Regiment. There was even at least one black Abwehr spy. Willy Baarn was arrested in Brazil and confessed to being a German spy who was trained in codes, ship-spotting and radio telegraphy at a German training school for spies in Paris.

Fact is, it is more rare during that time period to find comments that go against what Hitler was saying rather than the plethora of similar ideals all over the world, especially in the 30s. Henry Ford anyone?

My halfape family was subjugated well into the 1960s by American institutionalized racism, so don't pretend that Hitler was any different than the rest of the world at that time.

Wings
Member
Member
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:41 am

Re: The Negro Soldier

Postby Wings » 7 years 1 month ago (Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:47 am)

Not to be indelicate, but in occasions of conversation with Africans I have met or known somewhat, I have come to find that they are more aware than anyone else, of characteristics and nuances pertaining to Tribe, 'Blood', ancestry and region/derivation of themselves or of other 'blacks' whom they may meet.

Many 'Black' Africans do not find the Blacks of the Congo region ( which is to say, the 'Negro' in it's original meaning ) to be up to their own standards for deportment, demeanor, ethics and self discipline. This has been the same for eons, I am sure. And if one look closely, is the same testimony one finds to have occurred anywhere the Congoid was brought, or, if not enslaved, went.

Many Africans, once living in the US, do not wish to be identified with or confused with 'American' Blacks, and or find them to be sub-human ( or "Half Ape") to their standards, especially the gang or welfare or Wild Oat sowing males of the inner city. Many Africans are people of refined sensibility and instinct and are as decent and polite as anyone could wish for. They more than anyone find pain in having to countinance generalizations which lump them in with others who have no such sensibilty.

I have known Africans who for having lived here, went back to Africa, out of disappointment and discomfort for being thought 'Black' by Americans, in the same way American 'Blacks' are thought of, or to be regarded by American 'Blacks' as 'Brother'. To them, this was unbearably insulting.

Of course, in the US, most Blacks of Congoid derivation have long since been cross bred with Caucasians or other to some degree, and are by now, more or less quadroons, or octaroons, which has altered ( but not removed ) what otherwise had been their so to speak generally 'negative' characteristics.

These Quadroons or Octaroons are the people one sees variously in an representations of famous or successful Black professionals; the McDonalds Famous Black People Pamphlet, etc - one sees Mulattos and Qudroons...never more or less pure Congoids.

Obama we find to be a conspicuous Mulatto, or, maybe, ( more likely ) a Quadroon, while, of course, ( almost ) every one insists to call him 'Black'.


There is an enormous varity of so called 'Black', and, to the European and even American sensibility of the 19th and early 20th Century, the distain or disapproval associated with 'Black' was almost entirely earned by Blacks of Congoid characteristic/deportment/temprement, and, sadly, this then in it's generalization, in confusion, was unfairly applied to 'Black' people of all kinds.

Relatively few people at that time ( unless they were Africans or Americans or Europeans or Englishmen who had lived in Africa themselves and learned deferentiality ) had any ready familiarity by which to distinguish the kinds of 'Blacks' which were being considered in anyone's generalizations, and, of course, this persists to this day to some extent.

I am sorry the term 'Black' ever became so mis-used and entangled in people's minds.

I can only imagine that the mental 'picture' to which Hitler was referring in his Speech, was that of the Congoid or mounte bank Mulatto or Quadroon of Congoid derivation...and, not at all a mental 'picture' representing any of many other possible kinds of 'Black', of whom no one of any sense has ever found reason to feel rejecting or critical or from whom to withold respect.

Many North Africans are simply dark skinned Caucasoid people.

Yet, they are called 'Black' same as anyone else of dark Skin.

Africa had and still has many many very different Peoples, who's skin color may be dark or 'black' ( or even Apricot color ), but who's characteristics as Tribes/Peoples and as individuals, is hardly fair or right to lump together with entirely dis-simlar Peoples, other than one has to regard them individually, and not to be careless in generalizing or lumping them together merely because they happen to reside on the same enormous Continent and to have dark Skin.

So, we find that few people of the time had much to work with, or any deferential understanding or discernment, when trying to understand or assay questions or in tending to generalize, in matters relating to 'Blacks' in Europe or in the US or UK.

However, we do know that there was concentrated Jewish interest in using 'Blacks', as the usual Slavers and Ship Owners and middlemen, and as Abolitionists wishing for the Black population to be absorbed by the 'White', prior to the so called American Civil War, and, we see it occuring in the latter 19th Century and accelerating from there to this day.

This may be part of what Hitler was commenting on, in so far as promoting 'Black' accomplishment, and using 'Racial Tolerance' and using the 'Black' Man as a sort of buffer and front and an up-hold, was and contiues to be a methof of Jewish self-interest for the Jews to insinuate themselves into other's Cultures with less possibility of their being 'tolerant' to anyone noticing them doing it! Thus to have a front and a cushion or 'fog' to conceal or guard their own insinuations of themselves into everyone else's affairs.

Countries/Nations/Tribes, if insisting on a homogeneous 'Racial' population, would be free from these kinds of insideous political manipulations, and, of course, Hitler was well aware of this and of the permutations of not abiding it...and, or, of how far it could be allowed some lax.


Return to “'Holocaust' Debate / Controversies / Comments / News”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSN [Bot] and 5 guests