Henry. wrote:Werd wrote:To me these are the interesting parts.
"The classical 'cherry-pink' color of carboxy-hemoglobin is usually evident if the saturation of the blood exceeds about 30%."
"a percentage of 60-70% “loss of consciousness, for prolonged exposure respiratory arrest "
So if COHb levels have to be 60% before someone loses consciousness, it means that someone can still be alive and on two feet, yet stumbling if they reach 40 or even 45%. And at those rates, red ante mortem colouring should appear. Mattogno thus seems to be stating with his sources that nearly all ante mortem cases will yield red skin if the percentage is high enough, but not so high that it incapacitates them.
There are three phases involved here not two as Nessie pretends. In fact Nessie concentrates on one phase (ante mortem) and confines his observations to people with COHb levels under 30% when red discolouring is hard to detect if at all present. To be accurate it must be understood that people, subjected to homicidal gassing are trapped and cannot simply remove themselves to a clinic for treatment. They must pass through these three phases.
1 - Ante mortem Before death.
2 - Peri mortem At or near the time of death.
3 - Post mortem After death.
In Nessie's evidence those suffering from CO poisoning are seen and treated ante mortem before levels of COHb get to the 30% stage. However, the people said to have been killed in gas chambers must, at some stage before death, have past that point (30%) when discolouration begins to show. This 30% threshold is noted in medical textbooks and journals.
Well it seems Nessie is back to his/her old tricks on rodoh by refusing to answer directly why Wiernick said corpses turned yellow from the gas. And Nessie is still ignoring the point illustrated by myself and Henry and Mattogno seen above. He keeps going on about sources saying red colouring in live patients poisoned from CO is rare. He refuses again and again to discuss percentages of CO in said poisoned human beings. In other words, he came here, ran away and is pushing his nonsense again in the safe confines of rodoh.
Furthermore, when one reads above what I have quoted from the previous page, it should dawn on them that this red colouring would appear very quickly once the CO concentrations reaches those necessary levels. It will not take minimum 20 minutes to appear or 3 hours at minimum. That particular time frame has to do with the redness associated with livor mortis in corpses. One should take care not to mix apples with oranges. One should not behave like Nessie.