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Re: wanted: scientific references on corpse color

Postby friedrichjansson » 5 years 4 months ago (Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:04 am)

68) W. G. Trapp, Massive cyanide poisoning with recovery: a Boxing-day story

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Another cyanide case report with red coloration.

On this day, five gentlemen of fortune decided to cash in on the high price of nickel by a nocturnal visit to an electroplating company's Vancouver premises. Their plans were interrupted by the police. Three escaped, one was captured on the roof and the fifth, who forms subject of this report, decided to hide in the building.

When he heard the police dog coming he climbed into one of six tanks. Neglecting the five open ones, he picked the sixth, which was covered because it contained silver cyanide, potassium cyanide - 12 ounces to each of the 150 gallons and sodium hydroxide. He crouched in the fluid just long enough to experience severe burning in his scrotum from the sodium hydroxide and jumped out in front of the police dog and the police. He promptly fell unconscious to the floor, where he was immediately pinned by the dog.

The police with admirable dispatch immediately hosed off their valuable assistant and his prisoner and rushed the latter to the emergency department of the Vancouver General Hospital, where he was further washed off and given amyl nitrite and intravenous sodium thiosulphate. Searching for further remedies in addition to saline stomach washouts, an alert resident contacted the hyperbaric chamber crew, who welcomed the opportunity to the extent that about 15 minutes later the comatosed and now convulsing patient was on his way down to three atmospheres absolute (3 ATA) of pure oxygen.

At this time the 30-year-old patient still had a good pulse and a bright red colour...



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Re: wanted: scientific references on corpse color

Postby Thames Darwin » 5 years 4 months ago (Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:53 pm)

I've been through the thread here and it seems the vast majority of cases has resulted in this cherry red color. This seems like a clean sweep. Clearly Hilberg and others were fudging.

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Re: wanted: scientific references on corpse color

Postby friedrichjansson » 5 years 4 months ago (Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:39 pm)

69) Lambert, S.W., Poisoning by hydrocyanic acid, with special reference to its effects on the brain, Neurol. Bull., 2, 93–105, 1919.

I couldn't find the article, but it was summarized in these two journals
http://archive.org/details/archivesneurolo01assogoog
http://books.google.com/books?id=WRWgAA ... #v=onepage


According to the former

An Italian disinfector was found unconscious after having lain for twenty minutes in a room filled with hydrocyanic acid gas. The immediate symptoms noticed were: stertorous breathing, flushed skin, engorged veins of red color...


According to the latter

...breathing was stertorous, there was a reddish flush on the skin...

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Re: wanted: scientific references on corpse color

Postby Jurgen » 3 years 7 months ago (Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:22 pm)

Hi Guys, not sure if you are still after more information on this topic.

Here is some data from a book called "Antidotes" by a Robert Flanagan.

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Doesn't mention, from what I can see the cherry red corpse colour though.

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Jurgen
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