Hektor wrote: Atigun wrote:
Here's some more concerning the Groening trial. http://praxis-mag.blogspot.com/2015/04/ ... es-of.html
As the article states, the trial seems to be degenerating into farce. Clearly, the old man is having trouble with his memory to say the least. I think it quite possible that this "trial" is going to be seen as a case of the Jews viciously hounding an old man to give "evidence" that he is incapable of understanding.
The legality is already in question, even among people that aren't Revisionists, but main stream.
Anyway, wikipedia (the English version diverges a little from the German one on this) states that Groening responded to Thies Christophersen's brochure:
Gröning said little in response to these statements,:300 replying only: "I know a little more about that, we should discuss it some time." The man recommended a pamphlet by Holocaust denier Thies Christophersen. Gröning obtained a copy and mailed it to Christophersen, having written his own commentary on it,
which included the words:
"I saw everything," he writes. "The gas chambers, the cremations, the selection process. One and a half million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz. I was there." 
Gröning then began receiving phone calls and letters from strangers who tried to tell him Auschwitz was not actually a place for exterminating human beings in gas chambers.:300
It became apparent that his comments condemning Holocaust denial had been printed in a neo-Nazi magazine, and that most of the anonymous calls and letters were, "From people who tried to prove that what I had seen with my own eyes, what I had experienced in Auschwitz was a big, big mistake, a big hallucination on my part because it hadn't happened.":300http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Gr%C3%B6ning
Does anyone know anything about this commentary? I mean know the content and how it is in or out of line with further statements by Groening (The Zyklon B into the showers claim, being different from the standard version for Auschwitz)?
It seems Groening and what is said he said, was already familiar to some in 2005:https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f ... ing#p13279
The "I saw the Gas chambers" re. Laurence Rees has been thrown into serious doubt here in this thread, plus it is discussed at the below two links (also see comments in those links)
When deniers are righthttp://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... right.html
"I have seen the gas chambers, I have seen the crematoria"http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... -seen.html
Now the above is dead in the water, we have him allegedly saying the same thing to Thies Christophersen. The source for this, as per wikipedia above, is:
Geyer, Matthias (May 9, 2005). "An SS Officer Remembers: The Bookkeeper from Auschwitz". Der Spiegel. ( http://web.archive.org/web/200703020850 ... 88,00.html
) Archived from the original. ( http://www.spiegel.de/international/spi ... 88,00.html
But I really cannot take anything this Gröning character says seriously. I mean, aside from everything else in this thread alone, we have:
Oskar Groening and the Erect Penises of Auschwitzhttp://peterwinterwriting.blogspot.co.u ... es-of.html
Oskar Groening Court Case Opens: And the “Gas Chambers” Change Location Once Againhttp://peterwinterwriting.blogspot.co.u ... d-gas.html