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The real German gas vans

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 6 years 4 months ago (Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:53 am)

The real German gas vans

Vehicle for Decontamination of Clothing (Kfz. 93)

This has a large, closed body with heavy doors at the center of the left side, giving access to the chamber in which contaminated articles are arranged for treatment. Decontamination may be carried out by steam or hot-air treatment, mixed with suitable chemicals where necessary. The vehicle is completely equipped with an oil-fired boiler, fans, water tanks, etc., necessary for the work. This machine, like the personnel decontamination truck, is a six-wheel Henschel 23 feet 3 inches in length, 8 feet 2 inches in width, and 10 feet in height, weighing 9.7 tons.

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German Chemical Warfare Vehicles, WWII Tactical and Technical Trends, No. 23: April 22, 1943 (Lone Sentry)
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Kfz. 93 or Sd. Kfz. 93 (Sonderkraftfahrzeug abbreviated Sd.Kfz., German for "special purpose vehicle")

In January 1942 the Allied press reported: "Mobile [German] delousing squads with special vans are working hard in the regions bordering on Russia" - 06 Jan 1942 - SPOTTED TYPHUS RAGES IN EASTERN EUROPE Frantic G....


Older mobile delousing zyklon gas chamber:
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Zyklon Wagon 1922

But in spite of those gassing technologies in their possession the Nazis allegedly preferred to gas numerous people with Diesel CO-free fumes sent in a hermetically sealed box that would have quickly exploded because of the internal pressure and killed nobody in sensible periods of time because of the too low level of carbon monoxide in Diesel fumes.

I don't know if those delousing gas vans gave the Soviets the idea of the alleged "Nazi gas vans" but those murder weapons were first talked about during Soviet 'trials' in 1943 (Krasnodar, Kharkov). I've also heard stories of Soviet murder gas vans used during Stalin's purges of the 1930's but I don't know if those stories are reliable or not.
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Re: The real German gas vans

Postby Atigun » 6 years 4 months ago (Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:38 am)

It does seem as though the holyhoax fantasies have some basis in fact. Much like someone watching children playing on a playground jungle gym being inspired to write a horror story about children being tortured on some strange and twisted mechanical device. Actual gas chambers used for fumigating clothes, bedding, etc. become homicidal underground caverns capable of murdering thousands at a time. It makes me wonder what the inspiration was for some of the really bizarre stories such as the pedal powered brain bashing machine. I find it hard to believe that such a story could be pure invention. Something must have 'lit the fuse', so to speak. I wonder if it would be possible to track down the reality behind such fantasies? I haven't a clue of how to go about it but I'm sure that it would make an interesting read if it could be done.

On edit. Could the homicidal pedal powered device have been inspired by something as mundane as an old foot cranked grindstone? I've seen such grinding wheels that were used to sharpen cutlery, farm tools such as scythes and so on. Oh well, it's probably one of those little holyhoax mysteries that will remain forever unknown.

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Re: The real German gas vans

Postby hermod » 3 years 6 months ago (Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:16 am)

Just found this pic of a Jewish antityphus team and disinfection equipment in the early 1920's:

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A mobile delousing gas chamber? A mobile delousing steam chamber maybe? Your opinion?
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Re: The real German gas vans

Postby hermod » 3 years 6 months ago (Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:26 am)

"But, however the world pretends to divide itself, there are ony two divisions in the world to-day - human beings and Germans. – Rudyard Kipling, The Morning Post (London), June 22, 1915

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Re: The real German gas vans

Postby Kingfisher » 3 years 6 months ago (Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:49 am)

Thanks Hermod. That is pretty good evidence to present when arguing the origins of the gas van myth.

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Re: The real German gas vans

Postby borjastick » 3 years 6 months ago (Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:26 am)

hermod wrote:Just found this pic of a Jewish antityphus team and disinfection equipment in the early 1920's:

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http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article ... _Committee

A mobile delousing gas chamber? A mobile delousing steam chamber maybe? Your opinion?


Possibly a steam disinfector powered by wood as shown in the foreground?
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Re: The real German gas vans

Postby Lamprecht » 5 months 6 days ago (Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:38 pm)

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek wrote:In January 1942 the Allied press reported: "Mobile [German] delousing squads with special vans are working hard in the regions bordering on Russia" - 06 Jan 1942 - SPOTTED TYPHUS RAGES IN EASTERN EUROPE Frantic G....


Good thread. The article is here:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti ... g%20squads

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954)
Tue 6 Jan 1942
Page 8


SPOTTED TYPHUS RAGES
IN EASTERN EUROPE

Frantic German Efforts To
Check Epidemic

LONDON, January 4.

The Nazis, according to reports
from neutral countries, are now
facing a new and terrifying enemy
the disease of typhus.

In October, at a council meet-
ing of the Health Department in
Poland, a Dr. Buennann reported
that the seasonal Incidence of
spotted typhus in the Warsaw dis-
trict was considerably higher than
usual, the chief cause being the
Jewish quarter. He went on to Eay
that as Polish doctors had shown
themselves quite incapable of
dealing with the situation, the
German administration had set up
plague centres for disinfecting
Jewish houses and other preven-
tive measures.

These precautions were intended
to prevent the disease from spread
ing to the German community,
and. even more dangerous, to the
Germany army. Like all hastily
improvised preventive measures,
they were unsuccessful.

The conditions created by the
Germans In the countries they
bad conquered were so bad that
typhus steadily gained ground. In
November a police notice, appeared
in the "Danziger Vorposten" for
bidding persons to congregate in
the urban district of Gdynia and
mating compulsory the notification
of feverish complaints.

By December the Germans had
publicly recognised the general
danger. Not only were whole dis-
tricts of Poland isolated as a pre-
caution, but German officials and
settlers were specially warned that
spotted typhus was as prevalent
in winter as in summer and given
a long list of measures they should
take for safety." Simultaneously.
Jewish doctors, nurses and sani-
tary workers in Warsaw were re-
called and even allowed to work in
German hospitals.

In the German occupied put of
the Ukraine all schools have been
closed indefinitely as "a serious
epidemic has broken out." The
population of this territory and
those of the Baltic States and
north-east Poland have been for-
bidden to travel; into-the Reich.
German officials and military ar-
riving from these countries have
to undergo a period of quarantine.

Mobile de-lousing squads with
special vans are working hard In
the regions bordering on Russia
where the Germans are organising
winter quarters for their soldiers.
Leave for both officers and men
from the eastern front has been
cancelled.

Conditions in Europe are such
that, in spite of German vigilance,
the disease has every chance of
spreading. Already it is reported
to be raging in a number of Ru-
manian units stationed in the
area of Bug.


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