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Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:59 am)

Another holo-miracle!!!

"German TV-News (ARD) reported most impressively about the "6 million" on holocaust-day 1989 from Israel. Rabbis were shown on the screen loudly reading out the names of the "6 million": "Within 24 hours the names of 6 million murdered Jews are read out. Rabbis alternate with each other calling out the names." (2)

This example proves once again that the Jews are the only people, chosen by God and therefore they distinguish themselves from all other peoples. No ordinary mortal could be capable of reading and pronouncing 69 names in one second from a sheet of paper (try it). But the Rabbis in Israel have mastered this task by ignoring the law of physics.

They read and pronounced 6 million names in 86,400 seconds which equals 69.44 names a second."


http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/holoindust ... ppened.htm

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Callahan » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:13 am)

Link is broken, I was able to find it via Google:
http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/holoindust ... ppened.htm

The funny thing is, the German news report claiming that the '6 million' had been read aloud was from 1989... That means they had them all figured out 25 years ago. Certainly, with detective work like that, it should be no trouble showing proof of which ones died in a gas chamber. :wink:

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Renewal » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:49 am)

They also need to provide a birth record, and a camp record for each and every one. Those people that were not recorded by the Nazis do not count, as they themselves have established, that those who can not be identified, have not been exterminated. Just like in Dresden, no big deal.

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Occam's Razor » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:02 am)

There is no such list with 6 million names. It doesn't exist. And that's a fact!

Not only is it impossible to read out 6 million names in 86,400 seconds ( = 24h), they never had such a list in the first place.


Just in case anybody didn't know why chutzpah is a Jewish word / concept...

And just in case anybody didn't know with what kind of people we're dealing here. Bold-faced liars who think they can tell you any kind of bs, because they think you're too stupid to notice it.

A few years ago, long after the aforementioned event in 1989, Yad Vashem claimed in the FAQ about their Shoa victim database that they have the names of about 3 million individuals. Now they claim that they have about 4 million names.

Here's an excerpt from their website:
http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/resources/names/faq.asp

Questions about the Database

How many names are there in the database?

There are close to five million personal records in the database. However, some people appear in more than one record: This occurs when more than one Page of Testimony is submitted for the same person, or the same person appears on both a Page and a deportation list and so on. In addition, some records contain information on more than one person – for example, some of the Pages of Testimony submitted in the 1950's list entire families on a single Page. At the moment (January 2012) we estimate the number of separate individuals recorded in the database to be over four million. This number will grow as we enrich the database with additional sources.


Where did the names come from?

Currently the database is built on three types of sources:

1. Pages of Testimony. These are one-page forms, submitted to Yad Vashem by survivors, remaining family members or friends in commemoration of people who perished in the Holocaust. The first 800,000 of them were collected in the 1950s, and the rest since. There are currently some 2,600,000 names on Pages of Testimony, written in about thirty languages and four alphabets.
2. Historical documentation from the archives, such as the correspondence of the Nazi bureaucrats and their counterparts throughout Europe; personal documents of the Jews such as letters, passports, diaries and memoirs, as well as the documentation of the Jewish organs and institutions; lists detailing confiscation of assets, deportation lists or lists of victims; legal documentation from proceedings against Nazi criminals and collaborators, and much more. The documentation is in all European languages.
Local commemoration projects: There are dozens of local initiatives to record the names of the Jews from a specific region, country, or camp. Yad Vashem has joined efforts with these projects, and their results are integrated into the central database. The list of our partners is here.

Standard searches on the database will automatically cull information from all of the sources, so that there may be multiple results for a single individual. Conversely, since the database is incomplete, many victims of the Shoah do not yet appear in it.

As we move forward, they will.

For more information see About the Database

When will there be 6,000,000 names in the database?

Never. Some Jews left no trace. They were murdered with their entire families, so there was no one left to submit Pages of Testimony for them; or they left no documentary traces; or the traces they left were destroyed, either during the war, or afterwards. In the 1960s and 1970s, archivists sometimes burned entire collections of what were perceived, unfortunately, as documents with no lasting value.

However, we at Yad Vashem do estimate that the extant documentation can probably offer at least some information on five million of the victims of the Shoah, perhaps even more. This can be achieved by investing the necessary funds and labor in uploading all the relevant documentation into the database.


Does anyone appear twice in the database?

Yes, there are some cases of this. Generally, overlapping documentation results in a richer picture of the individual, as each source adds information that the other source did not. One problem, however, can be that names are spelled in different ways or different languages, and that different sources may contain different bits of information so that the researcher cannot always be certain if two similar records really are about the same person.


Are there soldiers in the database?

Because the fate of most Jewish soldiers is generally not known (that is “missing in action”) and those murdered as POW’s cannot be singled out, it was decided to include all Jewish soldiers who fell with the mark “killed in military service”.


Are there survivors in the database?

Some, inadvertently. Part of the information comes from archival documentation such as deportation lists, lists of camp inmates and so on. These documents tell of Jews being persecuted by the Nazis, during the Shoah. Most perished. A tiny minority managed to survive. They were victims of the Nazis, in that they suffered horribly and were persecuted nearly till death, but fortunately they then survived. Names of known survivors are not in this database. If you recognize someone who survived, please send us a post-war document, and we’ll remove his or her record from the database.


Are there any non-Jews in the database?

Occasionally, but not as a matter of policy. The database is an attempt to record the names of all the Jews murdered in the Shoah. When non-Jews are listed, it is because their names appear in the same archival documents that contained the names of Jews and could not be distinguished.


Summary:

They don't have 6 million names.

They include soldiers in the database. Note that Jewish soldiers who died in captivity as POW are automatically counted as "murdered", and therefore "cannot be singled out". As someone has pointed out here on this forum, they include even Jews who participated on the Russian side in the Soviet attack against Finland 1939/40. Another example of chutzpah.

They have non-Jews in the database.

The same person may appear twice or even more times in the list.

They "estimate" the number of individuals in the database.


Their policy is very simple: Collect as many names of Jews, who might have died in or near German-occupied Europe, no matter under what circumstances, in order to arrive at a number as close to 6 million as possible.

It's obvious that they want as many names as possible. The more the better. Try the same as a German who believes that more than 20,000 people might have died in the firebombing in Dresden, and you're a Nazi.


Any idiot can send them the name of an imaginary Jew who allegedly died in an obscure Eastern-European village, and they will happily include it in their database.


A little exercise for CODOH forum readers: Try to find out how many times Anne Frank and Edith Stein appear in the database.

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Dresden » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:47 am)

"They read and pronounced 6 million names in 86,400 seconds which equals 69.44 names a second."

They could probably pronounce one name every three seconds, so.....

86,400 ÷ 3 = 28,800

That's a lot closer to reality, except they weren't murdered.
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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Renewal » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:59 pm)

Steve F wrote:except they weren't murdered.


Well, some were. By other inmates. And some were also raped and tortured, by other inmates.

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Dresden » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:37 pm)

Renewal said:

"Well, some were. By other inmates. And some were also raped and tortured, by other inmates"

Yeah, and maybe some of the men "worked" themselves to death in the Auschwitz brothel, or died in a drunken brawl in the Auschwitz Cantina, but they weren'y murdered by the camp personel.....maybe I should have said "they weren't murdered by the camp personel" in my original comment, but I thought it would be understood what I meant.
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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Thames Darwin » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:44 pm)

Maybe they drowned in the swimming pool. You know, no swim fins.

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Renewal » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:33 pm)

Steve F wrote:I thought it would be understood what I meant.


It is, but at the same time it is not.
Those who died because of Allied sabotage need to be separated from those who were beyond rescue.
If they like to argue that prisoners were murdered, then so be it. But murdered by who?

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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Dresden » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:26 pm)

Renewal said:

"Those who died because of Allied sabotage need to be separated from those who were beyond rescue"

What group of people was "beyond rescue", and rescue from what?
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Re: Another holo-miracle!!!

Postby Renewal » 6 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:59 pm)

Steve F wrote:What group of people was "beyond rescue", and rescue from what?


The people you see stacked up on the popular concentration camp propaganda photos. Swallowing the you-know-what during typhus epidemic to save some "diamonds" was not a good idea. Without treatment, typhus is fatal. In the end even camp guards died from it.


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