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Hamburg WWII air raid shelter / peepholes, gas-tight doors

Postby Hannover » 4 years 7 months ago (Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:34 am)

This is a nice demolition of the absurd 'holocaust' tale that states the existence of peepholes and gas-tight doors proves the alleged homicidal purpose of the alleged German 'gas chambers'.
courtesy of Carlos Porter:
http://www.cwporter.com/airshelter.htm

I've added most of the text.
AIR-RAID SHELTER HAMBURG – ANOTHER FAKE "GAS CHAMBER"???

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The recently opened Bunkermuseum in Hamburg is a well restored Air-raid
Shelter-Bunker from WW2.

Most WW2 air-raid shelters in Hamburg have long since filled with rain water
but in this new Museum, for a DM5 entrance fee, one is carefully permitted to
negotiate the steep stairs down into the murky past. Three long tunnels are
on display, each capable of holding 50-60 people, but, we were told, "As the
war progressed often more than 200 people were crammed into each tunnel" .

On reaching the bottom of the stairs, some 10 meters underground, the first
sign that caught my eye, written in large letters in front of each
tunnel -- it was THAT word again – "GASSCHLEUSE".[Gas tract].

I asked the lady guide what it meant....she told me.....'We were
expecting gas attacks from the Allies. Every Air-Raid Bunker had a gas
tract, and all the doors had peepholes in them so that the people inside could look
out to see if it was safe to leave the Bunker...It was forbidden for people
to stand in the Gas-Tract, but as the war progressed and the Bunkers filled up,
there was no other shelter available.

Every Bomb shelter had a Gasschleuse and peephole in the door.......Why
should the Germans build Shelter-Bunkers outside of Germany (e.g.: Poland) any
differently?
Note: The theory that many of the features of the so-called "gas chambers" are in fact typical of gas-proof air-raid shelters, incorporated into all German public buildings and even private homes during WWII, has been developed in great detail and with great technical expertise by Samuel Crowell (see http://www.codoh.com).

... formerly translated"Gasschleuse" as "air lock", i.e, the sign refers to a gas-tight security door, such as are alleged to constitute "proof" of "mass gassings" (the term is now missing). What is laughable is that most of the doors produced as "proof" of German "mass gassings" are not even gas-tight. Gas-tight doors did exist, but their purpose was to prevent German civilians, and other persons, from being "gassed" by the British.

Also see:
Hannover @ U.S. 'Holocaust' Museum busted in gas chamber fraud
one image from that thread:
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Re: Hamburg WWII air raid shelter / peepholes, gas-tight doo

Postby Kingfisher » 4 years 7 months ago (Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:57 pm)

Eric Hunt found this British gas shelter, which he posted in another thread here.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/v/vickers_shelter/index13.shtml

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Re: Hamburg WWII air raid shelter / peepholes, gas-tight doo

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 7 months ago (Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:46 am)

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That's one of the two doors on the northerly end of the bunker behind Block 41.

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This building has been heavily modified over the years: the moat which surrounds Block 41 and the bunker was built in 1965 (Mattogno & Graf, Majdanek, Chapter 6). The Majdanek museum openly admits that the roof was added in the 1950s after the original canopy which covered the entire bunker and much of the adjacent area (see photo from 1944 below) was destroyed in a hurricane. The museum also admits the Soviet-Poles constructed the wooden part which connects the bunker with Block 41 (on the right in the photo immediately below):

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Here's how it looked in July 1944, a photo taken from a not too dissimilar position from the one at the top of this post.

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http://collections.yadvashem.org/photos ... _6579.html

Perhaps the current doors are the originals, this bunker was certainly used for delousing clothing with Zyklon B, but I find it hard to believe that this structure was ever a bomb shelter.
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Re: Hamburg WWII air raid shelter / peepholes, gas-tight doo

Postby Hannover » 4 years 7 months ago (Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:45 pm)

The Rabbit said:
Perhaps the current doors are the originals, this bunker was certainly used for delousing clothing with Zyklon B, but I find it hard to believe that this structure was ever a bomb shelter.

One has to remember that an air-raid shelter only needs to provide some forum of protection from flying debris and gas. Very few of them above ground (of which there were many in WWII) could withstand a direct hit. Hence they rarely looked impressive. They did however provide a decent amount of protection from said elements: debris and gas. In an open environment, using a not-in-use delousing facility as an air raid shelter makes sense, You use what you can, it's reasonable to dual purpose an existing facility. And one doesn't much care how impressive it looks. Most would prefer to scramble for shelter in whatever is available rather than remain outside and suffer. Such were the raw necessities of war.

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Re: Hamburg WWII air raid shelter / peepholes, gas-tight doo

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 7 months ago (Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:03 pm)

Hannover wrote:The Rabbit said:
Perhaps the current doors are the originals, this bunker was certainly used for delousing clothing with Zyklon B, but I find it hard to believe that this structure was ever a bomb shelter.

One has to remember that an air-raid shelter only needs to provide some forum of protection from flying debris and gas. Very few of them above ground (of which there were many in WWII) could withstand a direct hit. Hence they rarely looked impressive. They did however provide a decent amount of protection from said elements: debris and gas. In an open environment, using a not-in-use delousing facility as an air raid shelter makes sense, You use what you can, it's reasonable to dual purpose an existing facility. And one doesn't much care how impressive it looks. Most would prefer to scramble for shelter in whatever is available rather than remain outside and suffer. Such were the raw necessities of war.

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These could be peepholes on the doors, but it's difficult to tell for certain on this grainy old photo:

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The glass for the peep-holes is on the inside of the "homicidal gas chambers" at Majdanek, and they look like this:

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The main reason why I'm sceptical that the present doors on the bunker are the originals, is due to the "mud and slime" clearly visible in the photo:

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As C. W. Porter documented, this is how the Soviets claimed the Nazis made the "homicidal gas chamber" doors airtight:

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(64) The Soviets demonstrating how the Germans, supposedly gifted with normal human intelligence, allegedly proceeded during the mass gassings. The editor of the ‘Vim Nederland’ of 29 June 1991 comments. “The liberation of Madjanek camp in the summer of 1944. Russian soldiers showing how the cracks in the door of the gas chamber were sealed with mud and slime, to prevent the seepage of Zyklon B”.

“Vrij Nederland” published this rubbish in 1991 as ‘proof’ of mass gassings and sober- minded Dutch people swallow it without objection.

http://www.cwporter.com/bild2.htm
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Re: Hamburg WWII air raid shelter / peepholes, gas-tight doo

Postby Hannover » 4 years 7 months ago (Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:35 pm)

Rabbit, your posted link is an excellent resource, thanks.
http://www.cwporter.com/bild2.htm

The information & images contained make mincemeat of the 'holocaust' storyline, ex.:

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Sign advertising the role of civilian building firm at Majdanek camp. The thousands of civilian workers who came into daily contact with the inmates never made any reports about execution gas chambers.

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