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Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby phdnm » 7 years 7 months ago (Thu May 30, 2013 11:40 pm)

If they are so sure of the Holocaust happening, why are they worried about suppressing alternative thought? Generally when there is factual historical events throughout human history there tends to be a pretty large consensus on the general description of the event.


Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Dr. Mario Silva says Holocaust denial must be fought not just by Jewish groups but also by governments.

Holocaust denial is another form of anti-Semitism which is prevalent today and must be fought, Dr. Mario Silva told Arutz Sheva.

Dr. Silva, chair of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, took part in the 4th conference of the Global Forum for Combating Anti-Semitism which was held in Jerusalem this week.

“It’s sad to say it, but [Holocaust denial] is still a problem,” he said. “There are still some regimes – certainly we know the more prominent case of the President of Iran and his Holocaust denial – but there are other political groups in the world that are popping up and are denying the Holocaust.

“We have to be vigilant and condemn these groups, and also make sure that domestic and national governments are speaking out against this type of behavior and denial of the Holocaust,” he added.

Dr. Silva also referred to the fact that Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, who is often hailed by the West as a “peace partner” with Israel, has denied the Holocaust.

Abbas claimed in his doctoral dissertation that the Zionist movement collaborated with the Nazis to annihilate the Jewish people, in exchange for a transfer agreement between Nazi Germany and the Jewish Agency, which allowed the transfer of the properties of tens of thousands of Jews from Germany to Israel. He also accused the Zionist movement in the dissertation of inflating the number of victims and the severity of the Holocaust.

“These are things that the government of Israel has to deal with on an ongoing basis – the denial of the Holocaust by several of its neighbors,” said Dr. Silva.

Holocaust denial, he added, comes in many forms such as minimization, trivialization and comparing it to other genocides while claiming that the Holocaust “wasn’t as bad.”

“This is becoming fashionable in some circles and we have to combat that as well.”



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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby Engel » 7 years 7 months ago (Fri May 31, 2013 12:38 am)

Abbas claimed in his doctoral dissertation that the Zionist movement collaborated with the Nazis to annihilate the Jewish people, in exchange for a transfer agreement between Nazi Germany and the Jewish Agency, which allowed the transfer of the properties of tens of thousands of Jews from Germany to Israel. He also accused the Zionist movement in the dissertation of inflating the number of victims and the severity of the Holocaust.


I thought this was common knowledge by now. It's pretty well established as far as the National Socialists collaborating with the Zionist organizations with the prospect of getting the Jews the hell out of Europe and into other countries, including Palestine at the beginning. To the point where the British had to close the borders because of the sheer amount of illegal immigration.
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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby Kingfisher » 7 years 7 months ago (Fri May 31, 2013 1:16 am)

Common knowledge indeed. I'm amazed that this is presented as anything controversial anymore as the facts are well established, covered both by the revisionist Ingrid Weckert (Jewish Emigration from the Third Reich) and the orthodox Edwin Black (The Transfer Agreement).

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Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 7 years 7 months ago (Fri May 31, 2013 1:29 am)

Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 7 years 7 months ago (Fri May 31, 2013 3:11 am)

Russian born Jewish journalist and editor William Zukerman (1885 - 1961) wrote in the August 9th, 1935 edition of The Canadian Jewish Chronicle:

whether Zionists want it or not, they can-not get away from the fact that they share with the Nazis the underlying principles of National Socialism. The Zionist theory fully accepts and supports the Nazi claim of the "alienism" of the Jews in Germany and in other countries of their birth. Some Zionist frequently speak of Hitler as of a "Messenger of God" sent to further the work of Zionism. All Zionist activity is directed toward the principle aim of the Nazis: that of Jewish emigration from Germany. It was a Zionist scheme that we recently perfected for the mass emigration of all Jews from Germany within twenty-five years. So eager is the Nazi regime to bring about a Jewish exodus of this type that it is ready to lend its full support even to a Jewish social movement so long as it further such an object.


Zuckerman mentions Wilhelm Frick (later hanged in Nuremberg) in this article.

Over two years earlier, Frick had been asked the following question by Dutch-Canadian journalist Pierrer van Paassen:

(seems that they had "conspiracy theories" in the 1930s too)

"Moreover, anyone who care to investigate Jewish life but superficially soon discovers that instead of an indissoluble international solidarity as you claim, the same lines that divide society in classes operate in Jewish life. The best proof probably is that several Jewish bankers are backing Herr Hitler financially and that a Jewish bank is backing Prince Starhenberg in Austria. Since you say you are going to act strongly against the Jews, these Jewish banks are indirectly your aids. How can you speak of Jewish solidarity under the circumstance?"

- Syracuse Herald, February 28, 1933, section 2, p.1

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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby truth » 7 years 7 months ago (Fri May 31, 2013 4:59 pm)

Holocaust denial, he added, comes in many forms such as minimization, trivialization and comparing it to other genocides while claiming that the Holocaust “wasn’t as bad.”


Interestingly, I think people should compare and contrast different types of genocides. This is only natural - especially for those who do not believe that Jews are chosen and their religion means nothing but superstition to them, it's all plain and simply: weird. Not doing so looks like as if certain groups have not yet learned to take responsibility for their own crimes against humanity, a precious humanity which have had many many more victims than the Holocaust to be sure. For instance, Jewish people holding posts of responsibility mainly operated the Gulag Culture of Russia. The Ukrainian Hunger was orchestrated more or less by Jews and the goal was to get rid if all the people. How about the slave trade? This too was very much so in Jewish hands, which makes sense because humans are not humans on their religion in the ultimate sense. We are to be used and abused accordingly. That is why it is specially important to report abuses by Jews against humanity ever more not with the intention to hurt them but to be honest. They really have to learn that others feel pain just like they do and deserve to live in peace without religious materialistic exploitation.

Never I have heard people speaking cruder about getting rid of entire population like the Jew Kaufman, Morgenthau, Ehrenburg etc. If non-Jews had said those things against Jews.... they would be screaming about anti-Semitism very happily. Yet, what is worse than anti-Semitism is anti-humanism, perhaps even a plan to get rid of the majority of humanity and human civilization itself - just because some imagined God said so that this promised land (the entire planet) is only theirs alone and we have no say.

I think we should point out any crime of Jews against humanity as much or more as they point out our crimes. The Holocaust will be forever newly re-created and invented (and we are forced to believe anything they say) as they need this narrative more so than we do - from the prophetical standpoint alone. Jews, just as all of us, need a healthy boundary and that is not a bad thing when it comes to abusing humanity with the Holocaust Cash Cow. Enough is enough. As they push - we should push back. Keep them a bit in line. It's time. their narrative does not need to be our narrative unless it is truly based on rationality and evidence. Believe alone is way too backward and primitive and really not enough.

We need some kind of ADL to protect the rights of all of Humanity equally from Anti-Humanism which are slurred against us by sectarian Human haters... (we all are children of the Divine equally and deserve protection, love and honor.)

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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby Hannover » 7 years 7 months ago (Fri May 31, 2013 6:02 pm)

Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Dr. Mario Silva says Holocaust denial must be fought not just by Jewish groups but also by governments.

Holocaust denial is another form of anti-Semitism which is prevalent today and must be fought, Dr. Mario Silva told Arutz Sheva.

Dr. Silva, chair of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, took part in the 4th conference of the Global Forum for Combating Anti-Semitism which was held in Jerusalem this week.

Note the use of "expert" in the title. Is everyone supposed to be impressed? The man is certainly an "expert" in lying and fostering Jewish supremacist racism, that much is obvious. BTW, Silva is a Marxist communist.

Then there is the obvious conflict, he and those like him profit mightily from the contrived "Global Forum for Combating Anti-Semitism", held in apartheid Israel, naturally. Can anyone imagine that such lying-for-profit haters would actually say, 'antisemitism is decreasing'?

The utter desperation of these shysters is obvious. They can see the progress that Revisionism is making and are demanding Stalinesque Thought Crime efforts in attempting to control what is nothing more than the insistence on free speech. There are reasons why such Jewish supremacists are referred to as "the traditional enemies of free speech".

Notice there is no mention of the anti-Christianism, anti-Gentilism that is so prevalent in Jewish supremacist dominated cultures.

When speaking on government intrusion into speech and thought, Thomas Jefferson said:
Only lies need the protection of government, truth can stand on it's own.


The tide is turning and the desperation of 'holocaust' profiteers like Mario Silva are living proof of that fact.

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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby borjastick » 7 years 7 months ago (Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:26 am)

If the jews really were behind slavery, the holodomor and other purges and mass murderous activities then one can understand why they don't want any comparison between their holocaust and other historical moments. After all we would see, by these comparisons, the Jew hand and thus complicity in such atrocities.

Look at the way they simply cannot resist an opportunity to spread the anti-semitism accusation whenever possible. Only this week they were at it against Britain in a Telegraph interview, which was then retracted somewhat in Haaretz:

'Israel's Strategic Affairs minister Yuval Steinitz has apologized for comments he made during an interview with The Daily Telegraph, where he expressed concern over recent British hostility towards Israel in media coverage, boycott campaigns and official British policy.

Steinitz told visiting British Foreign Secretary William Hague that his assertion that such actions are "some kind of disguised anti-Semitism" were taken out of context.

In the interview with newspaper, when asked about the current relationship between Britain and Israel, Steinitz said: "It's difficult to say. Traditionally we had good relations with Britain and currently we have good intelligence cooperation with Britain and it's very successful."

Steinitz also voiced his disappointment at Professor Stephen Hawking, the well-known British physicist, who announced last month that he would not be attending an academic conference hosted by President Shimon Peres.'


I liken the anti-semitism slur to that of large property developers who characterise opponents of their plans as NIMBYS (not in my back yard). The idea with both terms is to demean, negate and demonize the other party so as to render their argument usless, regardless of how genuine it might be.

Israel and the holocaust bunch have used this to the enth degree. If one even thinks about genuine criticism of the country you are branded an 'anti-semite'. This is then accepted by the masses that you are somehow very dodgy and untrustworthy at the very least. I am sick of it as are many others.

The policy of the Israelis seems simple, demean the opponent and suggest they are bitter and twisted neo nazis who would happily gas, fry and burn all the jews on the face of the planet, not so!

One thought sticks with me when ever I consider the attitude and lies of the jews about the holocaust; Never has so much trouble been caused by so few people.
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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby hermod » 7 years 7 months ago (Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:48 am)

phdnm wrote:
“We have to be vigilant and condemn these groups, and also make sure that domestic and national governments are speaking out against this type of behavior and denial of the Holocaust,” he added.


No, you should collect and show evidence of your allegations...as all the people defending a physical truth do. But you can't. And you know you can't. So you have to silence your opponents....as all the people defending a baseless faith or any lie do.

It's funny to see the Holocaust promoters always imagine hidden political motives behind revisionist research while the Holocaust is the best example of politically-oriented myth in modern history.



"The number one weapon in Israel’s propaganda armoury"

Already in June 1979, W. D. Rubinstein, a Jew, professor at Deakin University (Australia), had written:

[…] were the Holocaust shown to be a hoax, the number one weapon in Israel’s propaganda armoury disappears (Letter to Nation Review, 21 June 1979, p. 639).

Three months later, he wrote :

[…] the fact that if the Holocaust can be shown to be a "Zionist myth", the strongest of all weapons in Israel’s propaganda armoury collapses ("The Left, the Right and the Jews", Quadrant, September 1979, p. 27).

Professor Rubinstein, who is totally against historical revisionism, did not make a remark in passing, and depending on the context of the day, but rather expressed a judgment, and reiterated it.

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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby Thames Darwin » 7 years 7 months ago (Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:40 pm)

Rare to see an IsraHELLi being so candid.

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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby blacksmith » 7 years 7 months ago (Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:26 pm)

gentlemen,

There is no such thing as holocaust denial, because in order to deny anything it had to have happened. As I was browsing the internet I came across a discussion on Iran between an CIA operative Baer and an established historian called Victor Davis Hanson. I thought the discussion was interesting and informative until, yes until the historian Hanson made the following statement, and I paraphrase, Iran's president Ahmedinejad was a holocaust denier, who cast doubt on the murder of 6 million Jews. From that point on I could not trust anything this man said.

Holocaust denial may be dangerous in the eyes of the Jews but what is even more dangerous is that an established historian would make a statement that 6 million Jews were murdered by the Germans. That is spreading a lie because we know that regardless of how many Jews died in the concentration camps the number never came anywhere near to 6 million, and the very fact that an established historian confirmed such a number is not only dangerous it is fraudulent and downs right criminal. He might as well had said that Henry the VIII had 15 wives. The man could not even claim that he misspoke, as he repeated the number several times.

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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby borjastick » 7 years 7 months ago (Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:37 am)

Yes but we know exactly how many wives Henry VIII had, it is a matter of record. We know that six million jews did not perish in the holohoax but we do not know how many did die. That's why the myth exists, it can be perpetuated because of the haze of misinformation.

The official state is that it did happen and six million died. It's like an innocent man being convicted of murder. He knows he is innocent, that there is proof being withheld. He gets convicted and officially he is guilty of murder. Doesn't matter what his family say or do he is guilty.

As a revisionist I see my interest as trying to learn more about the subject and hopefully find some key facts that can be brought to light. I also see a groundswell of doubt about the holocaust. I see it in forums, web comments, and youtube video comments etc.

In my opinion the biggest liability to the future of the official holocaust narrative is the Jews and Israel. They do not understand that some years ago they should have backed off the pedal and shut up. Instead they cry 'wolf' over and over and over again. They will soon trip themselves up because they have tied their own shoelaces together.
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Re: Expert: Holocaust Denial is Prevalent and Dangerous

Postby blacksmith » 7 years 7 months ago (Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:07 am)

Hi Borjastick,

While I agree with your assessment on the holo narrative, I would like to draw your attention to the barrage unleashed on all governments which have either not put in place a law prohibiting the questioning of the holocaust or admonishing the others for not enforcing the punishments more rigorously. While you may be right that if you give the Jew enough rope he will hand himself, please do not forget that by consistently repeating their Big Lie, they reinforce the myth in the minds of not only the sheeple, but also in academia which is too afraid to question anything about it.

As long as supposedly intelligent people give credence to the myth and worship at the altar of Yad Vashem our "experts" will have a task equal to Sisyphus.

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