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Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Hannover » 7 years 6 months ago (Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:09 pm)

Many here are familiar with Jewish 'holocaust' Revisionist David Cole, aka David Stein. Cole's videos and his 'Forty-Six Important Unanswered Questions Regarding the Nazi Gas Chambers' are classics of Revisionism.
see:
http://codoh.com/library/document/987

While working in the film business and advocating Republican Party positions (not sure if he buys them all) he went under the name of David Stein.
When David Stein was 'outed' for his Revisionist work there was quite an uproar, normal for anything which ruffles Jewish supremacists' political & financial interests, see thread here:

David Cole resurfaces?!

Read on as David Cole / Stein sets the record straight and refuses to apologize. Apologize for what? You gotta love this excerpt:
If I erred, I’ll cop to it. But admitting an error and apologizing for it are two completely different things. If a mathematician gets an equation wrong, he’s not expected to fall all over himself apologizing. He’s only expected to recognize the error and learn from it. You don’t write history books by yelling names at people. Trying to convince a historian he’s erred by yelling “racist” is like trying to bake a cake by screaming “YOU STUPID CAKE.” It’s just not how these things work.
IOW, they can scream to high heaven, but cannot refute him. Nor can they can they refute the Revisionist efforts at this forum.
Take note of the comments at the website, I have reproduced a viewpoint which has often been stated at this forum.

'holocaust' Revisionists are just the messengers, the utter impossibility of the insane 'holocaust' storyline is the message

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Apologize My Ass

Posted by David Stein on Monday, June 24, 2013 · 13 Comments
http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/4775

Food Network superstar Paula Deen is the latest celebrity to embark on an “apology tour,” spending the past ten days releasing apology videos and making weepy teary appearances on TV shows begging for mercy for having used racial epithets in the presence of her employees, one of whom is currently suing her. I don’t know the details of the case, and I don’t want to know. The lawsuit will be decided by a court, not by me (and not by you). But I do want to say that I‘m sick to death of people being forced to publicly apologize.

Perhaps it’s because I was one of those people.

Two months ago, I was “outed” as having spent five years, from 1990 through 1995, making various claims, on shows like 60 Minutes, The Phil Donahue Show, 48 Hours, and Montel Williams, regarding the Auschwitz camp and its role and function during the Holocaust. What I said was controversial, but my views were based on what I perceived to be the facts. I never uttered a single word that was in any way hateful or pro-Nazi, because I am the exact opposite of those things.

After a large monetary bounty was put on my head by a violent extremist group, I changed my name, and spent the last eighteen years as David Stein. I built a very successful GOP event-organizing operation, and my political writing was carried by every major conservative site on the ‘net, from FrontPageMag to Commentary and The Weekly Standard, from the Breitbart sites to The Daily Caller and HotAir, from The Blaze to The Washington Times and OReilly.com, and on shows including Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and the Larry Elder Show (where I had become an occasional guest…he and I were even working on a documentary film together).

All of that came crashing down two months ago when a vindictive young woman who I had been financially supporting for five years objected to being cut off from the Dave gravy train. She knew of my past (I never kept it a secret from my close friends and loved ones), and she “outed” me.

I was now “David Cole, the Jewish ‘Holocaust revisionist’ who’d been ‘hiding’ as David Stein.” The story of my “outing” was carried by The Huffington Post, Yahoo News, AOL News, The Guardian, Gawker, MSN, The Washington Times, American Spectator, and PJ Media.

Half of my sizeable network of (now former) friends disowned me, sent me angry emails, called me “racist,” “anti-Semitic,” and “pro-Nazi,” and even pressured other GOPs to stay away from me.

But the other half just wanted to hear me apologize for the work I did 20 years ago. “Just apologize for the stuff you said when you were 22 years old, and all will be well! Just apologize!” Several of these former friends went a good distance to try to strong-arm an apology out of me. There were even a few threats made.

Well, apologize my ass. I refused. I would not become a monkey dancing for the “apology police” organ grinders.

To begin with, what I said 20 years ago is either right or wrong. If I erred, I’ll cop to it. But admitting an error and apologizing for it are two completely different things. If a mathematician gets an equation wrong, he’s not expected to fall all over himself apologizing. He’s only expected to recognize the error and learn from it. You don’t write history books by yelling names at people. Trying to convince a historian he’s erred by yelling “racist” is like trying to bake a cake by screaming “YOU STUPID CAKE.” It’s just not how these things work.

The problem with the “apology police” is that once you give in to them, they never leave you alone. You see that every time a comedian apologizes for making a “racist” or “homophobic” joke. Conan O’Brien is the king of apologies. He loves giving them. And the more of them he gives, the more he’s asked to give. He apologized for Sarah Silverman when she made a “racist” joke on his show, and soon enough he was apologizing again to the entire population of Quebec for the fact that Triumph the Insult Comedy Dog (you know, the puppet that insults people…it’s right there in his name) dared to make jokes about Montreal.

When comedian Tracy Morgan apologized for making a “homophobic” joke in 2011, at his next show (and there’s video of this) audience members began demanding apologies right then and there for every slightly off-color or edgy joke he did.

He brought it on himself. The apology police only go after those who they know will buckle. I call it the “Shalit Syndrome.”

In January 2006, Today Show film critic Gene Shalit gave a negative review to Brokeback Mountain. That same week, In These Times published an exposé of Iranian madman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s anti-gay “pogrom,” in which gay men were being tortured and killed. Who did GLAAD go after? Shalit, of course. Why? Because GLAAD knew that Shalit, the proud father of an openly gay son who had written time and again about his dad’s unfailing support, would cave. Shalit, as far from a “homophobe” as is humanly possible, would be so emotionally devastated by being called one, of course he’d apologize for any offense his review might have given the gay community. Ahmadinejad, on the other hand, would have told GLAAD to shove it.

As expected, Shalit apologized, and GLAAD proudly trumpeted how it made a decent man cower before its might. Meanwhile, the Iranian government continued to murder gays. But so what, right? GLAAD got its apology. And isn’t that all that matters?

The apology police are cowards. They go after people who are easily bullied. That’s why I love South Park. Parker and Stone never apologize. I recall reading a blog from a “handicapped rights” advocate after the South Park episode “Crippled Summer” aired in 2010. The author was lamenting how Parker and Stone chose to portray the handicapped children in the episode as grotesque incarnations of Looney Tunes cartoon characters. But at the end of the post, the author admitted, “there’s no sense in protesting, since those guys never apologize.”

Exactly. If you don’t apologize, you eventually get left alone.

Now, I’m not saying that celebrity apologies are always unwarranted. When actor Isaiah Washington used an anti-gay slur during a heated, off-camera argument with a Grey’s Anatomy castmate, he absolutely owed that castmate, and the entire cast and crew of the show, an apology for his behavior. He did not owe a public apology to every LGBT person on earth. If Paula Deen did everything her former employee alleges, she certainly owes an apology to that person, and to the other employees. And she should rightfully pay compensation for having created a hostile work environment.

But she doesn’t owe me an apology, or you, for things she said privately behind the closed doors of her restaurant’s kitchen.

When senate candidate Todd Akin made his unbelievably stupid comments about rape last year, he responded with an apology video. And my point of view, which I made quite clear to my GOP allies at the time, was that I didn’t give a crap about his apology. He needed to drop out of the race, period. To hell with the apology; he needed to do the right thing.

But far too many of my former colleagues thought the public prostration was good enough. Yet another reason I despise these public apologies. They’ve become an easy out. If Paula Deen is sincere about her apology, she ought to settle up with the former employee and spare her the cost of a trial. Don’t apologize to me, Paula; I barely know who you are. Settle with the person to whom you directed the comments you supposedly regret.

Do the right thing. The apologies are nonsense. But they serve a dual purpose – they allow people like Akin and Dean to appear to be doing the right thing without actually doing anything but swallowing a bit of pride, and they allow “advocacy groups” to feel like big shots for forcing famous people to bow down to them.

It’s a circus sideshow, and one that’s gaining more and more freaks and ticket-buyers every year. I refuse to be a part of it.

My situation involves matters that I believed to be historically factual. If people think I erred, they can show me my mistakes, and I will admit any error. But apologize? Cave in because someone calls me “racist,” or because my conservative friends apparently believe that recantation at the point of a sword is how historical debates are settled? Hell no. Never.

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Dave, not apologizing.

an excellent comment:
Astraea Shaw says:
July 2, 2013 at 7:06 am

You gave the World an enormous gift of truth when you created those videos about Auschwitz. It has been a great relief and you should understand that many millions of people are very grateful to you for your courage.

I do not understand why Jews would not be as relieved as the rest of mankind to know that Jewish people were not cruelly driven into homicidal gas chambers by thugs and vicious murderers.

If I was Jewish I would be so happy to know that people I loved died of natural causes (such as the typhus killing people all over Germany at the time) instead, that they were not murdered.

I have also wondered why Jewish people have never felt warmed and grateful for the tremendous outpouring of compassion from mankind for their suffering.

Why too has the World not been allowed to know that Germany was not responsible for either WW1 or 2 and that there never was any intention on Hitler’s part to “exterminate” the Jews.

It is such an outrageous, base lie.

Thank you David Cole. Thank you.

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby borjastick » 7 years 6 months ago (Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:02 am)

Spot on, he hit the ground running on this piece and put together not only an articulate argument but did it with quality English; so often difficult to find in the US.

As for the lady who replied she also nailed it with her straight forward argument. I have often wondered why the average Joe Jew wants six million of his brethren to have been bullet ridden, fried and gassed. How does that make things ok?

Then again the average Joe Jew seems to keep his feelings and opinions, if he has any about the holohoax, well and truly stuffed under his skull cap.

Well done David Colestein for sticking to your guns and beliefs that no one from the holocaustology department has managed to refute your position and answer the 46 questions. Why? Because they cannot.
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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 7 years 6 months ago (Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:20 am)

There is an odd sentence in it, considering Cole/Stein knows a lot about war propaganda:

Meanwhile, the Iranian government continued to murder gays.

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Hannover » 7 years 6 months ago (Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:02 am)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:There is an odd sentence in it, considering Cole/Stein knows a lot about war propaganda:

Meanwhile, the Iranian government continued to murder gays.

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I hear you. Indeed, he does buy into some of the Zionist propaganda ... after all, he is a Jew. But IMO, in an odd way, that gives his debunking of the 'Nazi gas chambers' even more credibility.

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby astro3 » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:13 am)

Awesome stuff, really beautiful. His comments show the same clear, incisive logic as in the classic video he made in his youth.
And what a great picture!

Meanwhile, Wiki is trying to avoid putting up a section on him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cole Let's make sure they don't succeed...

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:33 pm)

He's a strong thinker. And the backbone of refusing to apologize and his rationale and explanation of what apologizing is, is impressive.

You can lose your friends, become a pariah, but having a great ability to think is a hell of a consolation prize. It's a consoling consolation prize.

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Dresden » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:44 pm)

David Cole/Stein said:

"If I erred, I’ll cop to it. But admitting an error and apologizing for it are two completely different things"

I'm not sure I know what you mean, David.....can you give us an example of "admitting an error", followed by an example of "apologizing"?

David Cole/Stein said:

"I would like to state for the record that there is no question in my mind that during the Holocaust of Europe's Jews during World War Two, the Nazis employed gas chambers in an attempt to commit genocide against the Jews. At camps in both Eastern and Western Europe, Jews were murdered in gas chambers which employed such poison gases as Zyklon B and carbon monoxide (in the Auschwitz camp, for example, the gas chambers used Zyklon B). The evidence for this is overwhelming and unmistakable"

"The Nazis intended to kill all of the Jews of Europe, and the final death toll of this attempted genocide was six million. This atrocity, unique in its scope and breadth, must never be forgotten"

Thank you, David!.....now, can you show us an example of someone "apologizing"?

David Cole/Stein said:

"I now understand that I owe it to the people I wronged to make a forceful repudiation of my earlier views. I also owe a very large apology, not only to the many people I enraged, and to the family and friends I hurt, but especially to the survivors of the Holocaust, who deserve only our respect and compassion, not re-victimization"

"Therefore, to all of the above people, let me offer my most humble and very, very sincere apology. I am sorry for what I did, and I am sorry for the hurt I caused"

http://codoh.com/library/document/1015

"Apologize my ass!"

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Hannover » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:26 pm)

Steve:
It was inevitable that someone would bring this up, but you're quoting from a forced 'recantation' by Cole from 1998, it appeared on the so called Jewish Defense League (JDL) website. At that time Cole, seeking employment in the film business, was under tremendous pressure to 'recant'. The entire false recantation reads like something from communist forced confessions of Germans, a la the Hoess 'confessions'. It's simply laughable.

In the very recent article quoted in the OP, Cole said plainly:
If I erred, I’ll cop to it
IOW: 'Show me where I erred and I own up to it.' To date no one has, or can refute Cole's work. The need to make a living can force people to do many things.

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Postby Dresden » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:23 pm)

Yes, Hannover, I realize it was a forced recantation and apology, but it still disqualifies David Cole/Stein from saying "apologize my ass", just as Hoess' statement or the "Gerstein Report" disqualified them from saying "Confess my ass!"

To me, it's ironic that of all people in the world to say "apologize my ass", it was David Cole that said it.
It's more than ironic; the article sounded like a comedy routine coming from David Cole.

Hannover, if you played a word-association game, it might go something like this:

HEROIC- "Uhh.....Giordano Bruno.....uhh.....Sylvia Stolz...."

CONFESSION- "Rudolf Hoess.....uhh.....Kurt Gerstein...."

APOLOGY- "DAVID COLE!"
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Postby The Warden » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:00 pm)

Until he fully commits to revisionism again, he's proven he can't be trusted... by both sides. Even if he started taking on the Holocaust again, I'd be very wary of anything coming from him since he may just be an empty hook dangling in the water. There's no reason to believe his stint as a revisionist wasn't some fact gathering mission and his "hiding" wasn't his true beliefs. This could be undercover revisionist V2.0
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Postby Hannover » 7 years 6 months ago (Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:51 pm)

Steve, Warden:
I understand your positions, but I know Cole personally and can tell you that his early Revisionist work is where his heart is. Nothing in that regard has changed. As I said, we do what we have to do to make a living. After all, gents, you both post under pseudonyms for good reasons, eh?

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Postby borjastick » 7 years 6 months ago (Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:37 am)

Storm in a tea cup for some who just look to criticise. I think Cole is a bit of a hero. His work and the 46 questions are as strong now as back when he made them, whether he 'recanted' or not.

Oops I should have posted that letter. An acknowledgement of a slip up or an error but not requiring an apology.

He is perfectly entitled to swing one way and another on any subject he chooses. What is clear to me is he exposed the lies of the holocaust beautifully and articulately and his work is/was mega. I would like to meet him and shake his hand, even if he is a Republican...
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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby haarp1 » 7 years 6 months ago (Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:56 am)

Strange, Ry Dawson was trying to get David to take part in an interview, David cut Dawson off once he found out Dawson didn't think the evidence for 6 million Jews being gassed was strong enough.

im not wrecking him.

He cut me off because I SAY there wasn't 6 million. This has nothing to do with getting him to say it. If that were my standards I wouldn't talk to anyone. He chose to stop emailing, skyping, and communicating with me because he found out that I don't say 6 million. It's one thing for him not to have the balls to say it. it is another thing to cut someone else out for not saying it. Which means its not an issue of fear, he is a believer.

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Re: Apologize My Ass / David Cole speaks up

Postby Hannover » 7 years 6 months ago (Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:00 pm)

First the kid says Cole's interview is not going to be public. Then later, supposedly, reveals information about it. Hmm.

So, how do we know that was the real reason Cole 'cut him off'? Could have been the kid was obnoxious and rude, generally offensive to Cole.

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Postby borjastick » 7 years 6 months ago (Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:17 pm)

Hannover wrote:First the kid says Cole's interview is not going to be public. Then later, supposedly, reveals information about it. Hmm.

So, how do we know that was the real reason Cole 'cut him off'? Could have been the kid was obnoxious and rude, generally offensive to Cole.

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Yes that is one valid way to look at it but I see it slightly differently. It looks to me as though David Cole, being a jew, cannot quite detach himself from the 6m myth or figure even though he knows he has convincingly trashed the means that supposedly delivered the 6m, namely the gas chambers etc. Maybe he was leaving something on the table to assuage the Jewish mafia, something they can feel comfortable with.
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