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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 3 years 7 months ago (Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:44 pm)

Vidkun Quisling, the Nazi leader of Norway during WW2, also denied any knowledge of the gas chambers before the end of the war.

Quisling never heard about the gas chambers

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Vidkun Quisling sat next to Himmler at a recruitment event for the Waffen-SS, Oslo, January 1941

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Western Morning News (Devon, UK), Friday 24 August 1945, p. 3.

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Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin, August 24, 1945, p. 2.
(http://www.jta.org/1945/08/24/archive/o ... -1000-jews)

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St. Petersburg Times (FL), Friday, August 24, 1945, p. 2.
(http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=II ... %2C3081034)


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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:45 am)

July 1945: the "Holocaust" denied by all the major Nazi "war criminals" in custody.

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Postby Inquisitor » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:25 am)

hermod wrote:July 1945: the "Holocaust" denied by all the major Nazi "war criminals" in custody.

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So there we have it. ALL of these "major Nazis" in custody totally denied that there was any extermination plan. And per that statement, note that they weren't merely denying KNOWLEDGE of such a program, (but at that time at least) flat out denying any such thing existed - period!

Couple this with the genuinely shocking lack of evidence, even unto this day, of either the legitimate means to commit, or physical evidence of any large-scale, mass-murder of Jews (or others) having been carried out by the Germans during that period, and a rational person might well conclude that something is very, nay, desperately wrong with all this "holocaust" business!

For goodness sake, seven decades after the fact, they unearth a few utterly unremarkable concrete slabs, and (allegedly) some personal belongings at one of the myth's premier "murder-factories," and THAT is supposed to be clear and irrefutable evidence of said slaughter! Ludicrous...

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Postby Dresden » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:21 am)

Inquisitor said:

"For goodness sake, seven decades after the fact, they unearth a few utterly unremarkable concrete slabs, and (allegedly) some personal belongings at one of the myth's premier "murder-factories," and THAT is supposed to be clear and irrefutable evidence of said slaughter! Ludicrous..."

That reminds me of what Arthur Butz said in "Hoax of the Twentieth Century":

".....such historical logic as the legend rests on must not be countenanced. Such events cannot happen without generating commensurate and contemporaneous evidence for their reality, just as a great forest fire cannot take place without producing smoke. One may as well believe that New York City was burned down, if confessions to the deed can be produced"
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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:00 am)

Inquisitor wrote:So there we have it. ALL of these "major Nazis" in custody totally denied that there was any extermination plan. And per that statement, note that they weren't merely denying KNOWLEDGE of such a program, (but at that time at least) flat out denying any such thing existed - period!


The German government also denied extermination allegations during WW2. For instance, in June 1942, the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph revived its own WW1 atrocity propaganda and charged the Nazis with having slaughtered 700,000 Polish Jews in "the greatest massacre in the world's history". Two weeks later, the German government publically denied the allegation. But as their denials never stopped the Allied campaign of atrocity propaganda, the Nazis rarely wasted their time with such fruitless denials.

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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 3 years 7 months ago (Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:40 am)

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Another one with Karl Wolff.

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See Wolff's letter to the Minister of Transport. Illustrative of how Holohoax promoters work. The part "and that we are now in a position to carry out expeditiously this movement of population" is quietly dropped in most (all?)exterminationist books (see below), so that the real meaning of Wolff's letter can be distorted. This dispenses Holohoax promoters with the need to claim that "movement of population" was another Nazi euphemism for "mass murder in gas chambers".

as the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto resulted in rail transport bottlenecks, Wolff telephoned deputy Reich Minister of Transport (de) Dr. Albert Ganzenmüller. In a later letter dated 13 August 1942, Wolff thanked Ganzenmüller for his assistance:[2]

I notice with particular pleasure your report that for 14 days a train has been going daily with members of the chosen people to Treblinka...I've made contact with the participating agencies, so that a smooth implementation of the entire action is ensured."

[2] Gerald Riedlinger: The Final Solution, Berlin 1956, p. 288 ( "correspondence between the Under Secretary in the Ministry of Transport Theodor Müller and Ganz Himmler Field adjutant, SS-Ober Gruppenführer Karl Wolff; process IV, p. 2184f), quoted in: The yellow star. The persecution of Jews in Europe from 1933 to 1945 (Gerhard Schoen Berner), Hamburg 1960, p. 78

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Wolff


"An ellipsis and you're a murderer" is a very common exterminationist practice.
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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby borjastick » 3 years 7 months ago (Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:00 am)

Damned if they do and damned if they don't. These guys were between a rock and a hard place. Of course they would never admit knowledge but they are probably telling the truth in these reports and did not know of these so called mass murderous atrocities. I say this because the proof of such atrocities has yet to be established, seventy years after they are claimed to have taken place.
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Postby hermod » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:28 pm)

December 1942: The Nazis call the recent Allied declaration, claiming "the Jews are being exterminated for no other reason than that they are Jews" among other things, "a bit of typical British-Jewish atrocity propaganda" taken in Berlin as "best corroboration of the German thesis that the governments of Washington, London and Moscow depend to an exceptionally large extent on the political wishes of Jewry".

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Postby Nap » 3 years 5 months ago (Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:47 am)

Walter Funk, Reich Minister for Economic Affairs from 1938 to 1945:

WALTER FUNK (Defendant): In the days of my nation's greatest need I joined a political movement, the aim of which was the struggle for the freedom and honor of my fatherland and for a true social community of the people.

This movement received the leadership of the State in a legal way. I served this State by virtue of my duty as a civil servant engaged in the execution of the German laws. I felt myself to a high degree bound to perform this duty at a time when there was danger of war and during the war itself, when the existence of the fatherland was threatened in the extreme.

But in war the state is absolutely dependent on the loyalty and faithfulness of its officials.

Now, horrible crimes have become known here, in which the offices under my direction were partly involved.

I learned this here in court for the first time. I did not know of these crimes, and I could not have known them.

These criminal deeds fill me, like every German, with deep shame. I have examined my conscience and memory with the utmost care, and I have told the Court frankly and honestly everything that I knew and have concealed nothing. As far as the deposits of the SS in the Reichsbank are concerned, I only acted in performance of the official duties incumbent on me as President of the Reichsbank. According to law, the acceptance of gold and foreign currency was one of the business tasks of the Reichsbank. The fact that the confiscation of these assets was taking place through the SS agencies subordinate to Himmler could not arouse any suspicion in me. The entire police system, the border control, and especially the search for foreign currency in the Reich and in all occupied areas were under Himmler, but I was equally deceived and imposed upon by Himmler.

Until the time of this Trial, I did not know and did not suspect that among the assets delivered to the Reichsbank there were enormous quantities of pearls, precious stones, jewelry, gold objects, and even spectacle frames, and--horrible to say--gold teeth. That was never reported to me, and I never noticed it either. I never saw these things. But until this Trial I also knew nothing of the fact that millions of Jews were murdered in concentration camps or by the Einsatzkommandos in the East. Never did a single person say even one word to me about these things.

The existence of extermination camps of this kind was totally unknown to me. I did not know a single one of these names. I have never set foot in a concentration camp either.

I, too, assumed that some of the gold and foreign currency which was deposited in the Reichsbank came from concentration camps, and I frankly stated this fact from the beginning in all of my interrogations. But according to German law everyone was obliged to deliver these assets.

Apart from that, the kind and quantity of these shipments from the SS were never made known to me. But how was I even to suspect that the SS had acquired these assets by desecrating corpses?

If I had known of these horrible circumstances, my Reichsbank would never have accepted these assets for storage and conversion into money. I would have refused, even risking the danger that it might have cost me my head. If I had known of these crimes, Your Honors, I would not be sitting in the defendant's dock today, you may be convinced of that. In that case the grave would have been better for me than this tormented life, this life full of suspicions, slanders, and vulgar accusations.

Not a single human being has ever lost his life because of any measures decreed by me. I have always respected the property of others. I have always tried to help people in need and, as far as it lay within my power, to bring happiness and Joy into their lives. And for that, many will be grateful to me and remain grateful.

Human life consists of error and guilt.

I, too, have made many mistakes; I, too, have let myself be deceived in many things and I frankly acknowledge, I admit, that I have let myself be deceived all too easily, and in many ways have been too unconcerned and too gullible. Therein I see my guilt, but consider myself free from any criminal guilt which I am supposed to have incurred in discharging my official duties. In that respect, my conscience is just as clear today as on the day when I entered this courtroom 10 months ago for the first time.


IMT, Blue Series, vol. 22, pages 387-88: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/08-31-46.asp.

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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 3 years 4 months ago (Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:07 am)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:Josef Bühler the deputy governor of the General Government and attendee of the Wannsee Conference seemed pretty much in the dark about the whole extermination of the Jews thing when he testified at the IMT as a defence witness for Hans Frank, as well as claiming that the purpose of Wannsee was to discuss the forced resettlement of Jews in the northeast of Europe:

SMIRNOV: Then the Jewish ghettos were already empty. In that case, what happened to the Jews from Poland?

BUEHLER: When these Jewish ghettos were emptied, I assumed they were resettled in the northeast of Europe. The chief of the RSHA had definitely told me at the conference in February 1942 that this was the intention.


Earlier during his examination by Franks's defence counsel:

DR. SEIDL: The Prosecution submitted an extract from Frank's diary in evidence under Number USA-281 (Document Number 2233(d)-PS.) This is a discussion of Jewish problems. In this connection Frank said, among other things:

"My attitude towards the Jews is based on the expectation that they will disappear; they must go away. I have started negotiations for deporting them to the East. This question will be discussed at a large meeting in Berlin in January, to which I shall send State Secretary Dr. Buehler. This conference is to take place at the Reich Security Main Office in the office of SS Obergruppenfuehrer Heydrich. In any case Jewish emigration on a large scale will begin."

I ask you now, did the Governor General send you to Berlin for that conference; and if so, what was the subject of the conference?

BUEHLER: Yes, I was sent to the conference and the subject of the conference was the Jewish problem. I might say in advance that from the beginning Jewish questions in the Government General were considered as coming under the jurisdiction of the Higher SS and Police Leader and handled accordingly. The handling of Jewish matters by the state administration was supervised and merely tolerated by the Police.

During the years 1940 and 1941 incredible numbers of people, mostly Jews, were brought into the Government General in spite of the objections and protests of the Governor General and his administration. This completely unexpected, unprepared for, and undesired bringing in of the Jewish population from other territories put the administration of the Government General in an extremely difficult position.

Accommodating these masses, feeding them, and caring for their health-combating epidemics for instance-almost, or rather, definitely overtaxed the capacity of the territory. Particularly threatening was the spread of typhus, not only in the ghettos but also among the Polish population and the Germans in the Government General. It appeared as if that epidemic would spread even to the Reich and to the Eastern Front.

At that moment Heydrich's invitation to the Governor General was received. The conference was originally supposed to take place in November 1941, but it was frequently postponed and it may have taken place in February 1942.

Because of the special problems of the Government General I had asked Heydrich for a personal interview and he received me. On that occasion, among many other things, I described in particular the catastrophic conditions which had resulted from the arbitrary bringing of Jews into the Government General. He replied that for this very reason he had invited the Governor General to the conference. The Reichsfuehrer SS, so he said, had received an order from the Fuehrer to round up all the Jews of Europe and to settle them in the Northeast of Europe, in Russia. I asked him whether this meant that the further arrival of Jews in the Government General would cease, and whether the hundreds of thousands of Jews who had been brought into the Government General without the permission of the Governor General would be moved out again. Heydrich promised me both these things. Heydrich said furthermore that the Fuehrer had given an order that Theresienstadt, a town in the Protectorate, would become a reservation in which old and sick Jews, and weak Jews who could not stand the strains of resettlement, were to be accommodated in the future. This information left me definitely convinced that the resettlement of the Jews, if not for the sake of the Jews, then for the sake of the reputation and prestige of the German people, would be carried out in a humane fashion. The removal of the Jews from the Government General was subsequently carried out exclusively by the Police.

I might add that Heydrich demanded, particularly for himself, his office, and its branches, the exclusive and uninterrupted competence and control in this matter.


As for the death camps:

DR. SEIDL: What concentration camps in the Government General did you know about during your activity as State Secretary?

BUEHLER: The publications in the press during the summer of 1944 called my attention to the Maidanek camp for the first time. I did not know that this camp, not far from Lublin, was a concentration camp. It had been installed as an economic establishment of the Reichsfuehrer SS, in 1941 I think. Governor Corner came to visit me at that time and he told me that he had objected to the establishment of this camp when he talked to Globocznik, as it would endanger the power supply of the city of Lublin; and there were objections, too, on the part of the Police with regard to the danger of epidemics. I informed the Governor General of this and he in turn sent for Globocznik. Globocznik stated to the Governor General that certain workshops for the needs of the Waffen-SS at the front had been erected on that site by him. He mentioned workshops for dressing furs but he also mentioned a timber yard which was located there.

In these workshops for dressing furs, as I heard, fur articles from the collection of furs were altered for use at the front. At any rate, Globocznik stated that he had installed these workshops in compliance with Himmler's command.

The Governor General prohibited the erection of any further installations until all questions were settled with the police in charge of building and blueprints had been submitted to the state offices, in other words until all rules had been complied with, which apply to the construction of buildings. Globocznik never submitted these blueprints. With regard to the events inside the camp, no concrete information ever reached the outside. It surprised the Governor General just as much as it surprised me when the world press released the news about Maidanek.

DR. SEIDL: Witness, the Prosecution has submitted a document, Number 437-PS, Exhibit USA-610, which is a memorandum from the Governor General to the Fuehrer, dated 19 June 1943. I think you yourself drafted that memorandum. On Page 35 a report of the commander of the Security Police is mentioned and quoted verbatim in part. This report of the Security Police mentions also the name of Maidanek.

Did you at that time realize that this Maidanek was identical or probably identical with that camp near Lublin?

BUEHLER: No. I assumed that, like Auschwitz, it was a camp outside the territory of the Government General, because the Governor General had repeatedly told the Police and the Higher SS and Police Leader that he did not wish to have concentration camps in the Government General.

DR. SEIDL: Under whose jurisdiction was the administration of concentration camps in the Government General?

BUEHLER: I don't know because I did not know of the existence of the camps. In August, on the occasion of a visit to the reception camp at Pruszkow, I heard about the administration of concentration camps in general. At that time I brought instructions from Himmler to the camp commandant, according to which transport of the inhabitants of Warsaw who had been removed from the city to concentration camps was to cease forthwith.

DR.SEIDL: Was that after the uprising in Warsaw?

BUEHLER: It was during it; it must have been on or about 18 or 19 August 1944. The camp commandant, whose name I have forgotten, told me at the time that he did not know about that order, and that he could receive instructions only from the Chief of Concentration Camps.



SMIRNOV: In any case the property of Jews murdered in the concentration camps of Poland was, as a result of your negotiations, transferred to warehouses in the Government General?

BUEHLER: That is not correct. The property mentioned was not that which proceeded from Jews who were killed, but simply property which came from Jews and which was removed by the Police after having been converted through the administration department in the regular way.

SMIRNOV: But could the Security Police or the SD be in possession of property belonging to Jews who were not murdered?

BUEHLER: Why not, Right from the beginning the Police had taken over Jewish problems, and therefore also came into possession of their property in this manner.

SMIRNOV: But did the Auschwitz depot in Chopin Street also keep the property of Jews who had not been murdered? Of Jews who were still alive?

BUEHLER: The depots which have been mentioned here are not to be interpreted as being concentration camps, but as depots where goods were stored.

SMIRNOV: What other depots were there for storing the movable property of Jews besides those in the concentration camps?

BUEHLER: I do not know what things looked like in concentration camps, as I have never entered or seen one; but that the Police took possession of movable Jewish property is something I was certainly told about by the director of nay trustee department.

SMIRNOV: I ask you this: In 1944 when the machines of destruction were working at top speed at Auschwitz and Maidanek, what depots or warehouses existed for the storage of Jewish movable property besides those which stored the movable property of Jews executed in concentration camps? Do you know of any other warehouses and where they were located?

BUEHLER: The Jews were deprived of their property on the spot. I have never assumed that Jewish property was to be found in concentration camps. I did not know anything at all about these camps. Where the Police took that movable property was not clear to me, but depots must have existed.

SMIRNOV: I would draw your attention to the date-21 February 1944. At that time were there any Jews still alive in Poland, or were the Jewish ghettos already quite empty?

BUEHLER: The Jewish ghettos were empty, but there were still some Jews; I know that because they were being used in one way or another in the armament industry. Jewish property could not have been removed from the territory, it must have been somewhere in the Government General, very probably near the ghettos or wherever else the evacuation of Jews took place. And this telegram, I repeat, does not concern stores which were in concentration camps; they were everywhere. Every place had property stored somewhere which originated from the resettlement of the Jews.

SMIRNOV: Then the Jewish ghettos were already empty. In that case, what happened to the Jews from Poland?

BUEHLER: When these Jewish ghettos were emptied, I assumed they were resettled in the northeast of Europe. The chief of the RSHA had definitely told me at the conference in February 1942 that this was the intention.

SMIRNOV: On the 21 February 1944 the front line ran through the Government General. How and where could the Jews have been transferred to the northeast?

BUEHLER: According to the conference this was to have taken place in 1942.

MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: The document is dated 1944, 21 February 1944.

I pass on to the next question. [...]


http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/04-23-46.asp


Just to show that Buehler wasn't an insignificant "Holocaust denier". After WW2, he was accused of being one of the main perpetrators of one half of the entire "Holocaust", nothing less, and he was sentenced to death for that.

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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby Hektor » 3 years 4 months ago (Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:07 pm)

Getting rid of witnesses that are a problem to the desired narrative?
hermod wrote:
TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:Josef Bühler the deputy governor of the General Government and attendee of the Wannsee Conference seemed pretty much in the dark about the whole extermination of the Jews thing when he testified at the IMT as a defence witness for Hans Frank, as well as claiming that the purpose of Wannsee was to discuss the forced resettlement of Jews in the northeast of Europe:
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I ask you now, did the Governor General send you to Berlin for that conference; and if so, what was the subject of the conference?

BUEHLER: Yes, I was sent to the conference and the subject of the conference was the Jewish problem. I might say in advance that from the beginning Jewish questions in the Government General were considered as coming under the jurisdiction of the Higher SS and Police Leader and handled accordingly. The handling of Jewish matters by the state administration was supervised and merely tolerated by the Police.

During the years 1940 and 1941 incredible numbers of people, mostly Jews, were brought into the Government General in spite of the objections and protests of the Governor General and his administration. This completely unexpected, unprepared for, and undesired bringing in of the Jewish population from other territories put the administration of the Government General in an extremely difficult position.

Accommodating these masses, feeding them, and caring for their health-combating epidemics for instance-almost, or rather, definitely overtaxed the capacity of the territory. Particularly threatening was the spread of typhus, not only in the ghettos but also among the Polish population and the Germans in the Government General. It appeared as if that epidemic would spread even to the Reich and to the Eastern Front.

At that moment Heydrich's invitation to the Governor General was received. The conference was originally supposed to take place in November 1941, but it was frequently postponed and it may have taken place in February 1942.

Because of the special problems of the Government General I had asked Heydrich for a personal interview and he received me. On that occasion, among many other things, I described in particular the catastrophic conditions which had resulted from the arbitrary bringing of Jews into the Government General. He replied that for this very reason he had invited the Governor General to the conference. The Reichsfuehrer SS, so he said, had received an order from the Fuehrer to round up all the Jews of Europe and to settle them in the Northeast of Europe, in Russia. I asked him whether this meant that the further arrival of Jews in the Government General would cease, and whether the hundreds of thousands of Jews who had been brought into the Government General without the permission of the Governor General would be moved out again. Heydrich promised me both these things. Heydrich said furthermore that the Fuehrer had given an order that Theresienstadt, a town in the Protectorate, would become a reservation in which old and sick Jews, and weak Jews who could not stand the strains of resettlement, were to be accommodated in the future. This information left me definitely convinced that the resettlement of the Jews, if not for the sake of the Jews, then for the sake of the reputation and prestige of the German people, would be carried out in a humane fashion. The removal of the Jews from the Government General was subsequently carried out exclusively by the Police....


http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/04-23-46.asp

Just to show that Buehler wasn't an insignificant "Holocaust denier". After WW2, he was accused of being one of the main perpetrators of one half of the entire "Holocaust", nothing less, and he was sentenced to death for that.

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I recall that IMT footage was edited in a way so that the red passage above as well as some of the surrounding text was left out.

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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 3 years 4 months ago (Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:35 am)

Denial was useless anyway. When Goebbels talked about the establishment of a Jewish state somewhere as a humanitarian solution of the Jewish problem, in March 1943, Allied circles attached no importance to his statement and his words were depicted as a move to appease the Christians protesting against the Nazi extermination of Jews. Why waste time denying things if your statements are brushed aside and called "a move" by your enemies as soon as your words don't fit with their wartime atrocity propaganda against you?

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How could Christians and others protest against a Top Secret extermination carried out with documents full of code words and genocidal euphemisms, as well as with gas chambers disguised as shower rooms and special units tasked with the obliteration of any physical evidence of that Top Secret extermination? Why would the Nazis have used genocidal code words in their own documents, camouflaged gas chambers and obliteration units to hide an operation that was in most foreign newspapers at that time? Makes no sense...
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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:18 pm)

Further details on the denial of the exterminationist nature of the Wannsee conference from Josef Buehler.


Buehler was interrogated several times at Nuremberg by the Pole Dr. George Sawicki. On Feb 14, 1945, Sawicki twice brought up the Jan 1942 conference in Berlin, as he did again on Feb 19, 1945, twice mentioning the [big] meeting in Berlin in early/January 1942 chaired by Heydrich, and that Buehler attended/ was sent to by Hans Frank. At the end of that interrogation, Sawicki said to Buehler:

"will you please prepare for me a report, as complete as you wish, describing your relationship to the Jewish question? You may write this in your own tongue, using all the nuances you wish to. I would like to state further that this will become a permanent part of the record."
Interrogation 19.02.46, p.16.



Page one of Buehler's February 26, 1946 interrogation by Sawicki begins:

DR. SAWICKI: The witness has handed me a memorandum under the title, "Supplement to my interrogation of 22 February 1946", consisting of one typewritten page. He has also handed me a second supplement entitled "Supplement to my interrogation of 19 February 1946", containing seven typewritten pages.

In my presence I have asked the witness to sign both memoranda.

(Witness signed both memoranda)

The witness has requested that both supplements be made part of the interrogation and there [sic] are herewith made a part thereof.

Both supplements are typewritten in German.


So Buehler wrote a seven page report on the Jewish Question titled "Supplement to my interrogation of 19 February 1946" which almost certainly contained details on the Wannsee conference. But this report is not found in his Nuremberg interrogation papers as it should be, or at least not the ones which have been made easily available.* Nor is the other report mentioned above ("Supplement to my interrogation of 22 February 1946"), which was about Majdanek, despite the fact these reports form are officially "supplements"; "part of the interrogation" of Feb 26, 1945.

But we can tell from Dr. Sawicki's questions to Buehler about his report on the JQ, that Buehler—the Wannsee conference attendee—claimed to know nothing about the plan to kill off European Jewry in gas chambers. He only learnt of it later, from rumours circulating amongst the Poles.

QUESTIONS BY DR. SAWICKI:

Q I have taken cognisance of the supplement to your interrogation of the 19 of February, 1946. I want to put one question to you.

Do you still further state, after what I have read to you from government sessions and from the legal gazettes and books, that you know nothing about the biological destruction of the Jews during the time you were in the GG, that is to say Up to the year 1945?

A I knew no more than anybody else who was not concerned with this affair in the course of his duties.

Q That is to say --

A As anybody else who was present in the GG. There were rumors about a destruction which was taking place, which probably resulted from listening to foreign broadcasts and these rumors came to me also.

Q And from the various rumors which were abundant in the GG amongst the Polish population of the railroad personnel, you knew nothing about these rumors?

A It may be that among these rumors which I got from the Polish population such rumors may have also originated from railroad employees.

Q May I draw the conclusion that in an indeterminable period of time after the evacuation of the Jews, you learned that the Jews were to be exterminated?

A I learned of this fact by rumor only, but this rumor did not concern all Jews. I knew, for instance, that the Jews in armament industries were to be retained. I knew merely what the Polish population were talking about. I knew only what the birds were already singing.
Interrogation 26.02.46, p.1-2.


* All (well, perhaps not quite all, but a huge number of) the Nuremberg interrogations are found online at: http://www.fold3.com/

The Buehler ones available there total some 175 pages.
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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby Hannover » 3 years 4 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:25 pm)

Thanks BlackRabbit,
That helps with my question here:
Josef Buehler's conviction at Nuremberg / based upon what?

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Re: quora.com / Tim O'Neill: Nazis never denied 'holocaust'

Postby hermod » 2 years 6 months ago (Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:59 pm)

Quite illustrative of the "Stop kicking my balls, please!" Holocaust confessions: the case of Auschwitz Gasmeister Josef Kramer...

Kramer was promoted to the rank of Hauptsturmführer (Captain) in 1942 and in May 1944 was transferred to become the Lagerführer, in charge of operations at Auschwitz II-Birkenau, the main killing center within the Auschwitz concentration camp complex, from 8 May 1944 to 25 November 1944. [3] He was brought to Auschwitz to manage the gassings of new transports in May 1944, according to the Prosecution Judge Advocate at the War Crimes tribunal which convicted him of being responsible for the murders committed at Auschwitz. There were a number of witnesses who said that he took an active part in the selection parades, in that for instance he loaded people into the trucks and beat them when they would not get into the trucks.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Kramer#Auschwitz


Evidence of gas chamber killings at Auschwitz "untrue from beginning to end"...

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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article ... Term=josef

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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article ... Term=josef

A few days later, Kramer had finally decided that he was no longer bound to secrecy because Hitler and Himmler were both dead... :lol:

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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article ... Term=josef

Note that the alleged selections for the gas chambers were supposedly operated by a phantom murderous political department, not by doctors as claimed today. The kind of problem orthodox historians usually 'solve' with three dots between brackets. :roll:
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