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Good old Greville Janner

Postby Turpitz » 6 years 2 months ago (Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:39 am)

Keep your ear to the ground in regard to Industry promoter Greville Janner over the next few weeks.

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby Werd » 6 years 2 months ago (Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:29 am)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... olice.html
Lord Greville Janner's home searched as part of child sex investigations, say police
Officers from Leicestershire Police spent two days searching Lord Greville Janner's £600,000 apartment in North London



By News agencies

9:09AM GMT 20 Dec 2013

Police have searched the London home of Labour Lord Greville Janner as part of an investigation into historic child sex allegations, it was revealed.

Officers from Leicestershire Police spent two days searching his £600,000 apartment in North London, on Monday and Tuesday.

The 85-year-old former barrister was named Baron Janner of Braunstone, Leicester, in 1997.

The force refused to give details of whether anything was seized but confirmed it was part of an ongoing probe.

A police spokesman said: "Leicestershire Police can confirm its officers executed a search warrant of a property in Barnet, London as part of an ongoing criminal inquiry.



"No arrests have been made at this stage."

It is understood police attended the flat as part of a historic child sex investigation dating back many years.

Builders working on a renovation next door to the Janner's home saw a number of police cars and officers at the address on Monday and Tuesday.

One said: "There were loads of police cars here on Monday and Tuesday. They were coming and going all day.

"I don't know what happened, but they've been back quite often ever since.They were here on Tuesday and came back on Wednesday."

The huge white-fronted property in West Hampstead contains six luxury flats. Janner was at home on Thursday afternoon but refused to come to the door.

A young man, who identified himself as 'Jameson', claimed he was the peer's personal spiritual healer. He said: "The Lord won't come to the door.

"He is exhausted with all the stress of dealing with the police. He's old and needs his rest. I don't want to say any more."

It is not the first time Janner - a life peer in the House of Lords - has sparked controversy.

In 2006 Lord Janner was struck by fellow Lord Bramall, a former head of the Armed Forces, during a furious row over the Lebanon conflict.

Janner, a prominent speaker on Jewish rights who was President of the Board of British Jews, has been hailed for his efforts to see Holocaust victims receive compensation.

In 1955, he married Myra Sheink, born and bred in Australia, who passed away in 1996. He has three children and many grandchildren.

On his official website, Janner says his hobbies include "autograph collections, glass and other antiquities, swimming, speaking his nine languages and his family."

It also says he is a member of the Magic Circle and the International Brotherhood of Magicians.

Sicko pedophile freemasons usually behave like this. No surprise there. Alexander Baron was blowing the whistle about this guy years ago but not enough listened because he was also exposed the sometimes less than stellar scholarship of David Irving.

Here is another more in depth link about past scandals.
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/councillors ... cover-ups/

The world of politics is run on shame and the sickos get promoted by other sickos. Blackmail is integral to politics. Greg Hallett is correct.

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby Werd » 6 years 2 months ago (Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:36 am)

http://carolynyeager.net/book/export/html/96
Known Pedophile is Instrumental in Promoting Holocaust Hoaxer and Plagiarizer Denis Avey's New Book

By Carolyn Yeager, 2011

copyright 2011 Carolyn Yeager

Greville Janner, now Lord Janner of Braunstone, stands accused of pedophilia during the trial of Frank Beck in 1991. Janner, a well-known and well-connected British Jew, and a Labour MP from 1970 to 1997, has never answered the charges.
This is according to the C.H.R.I.S.-UK (Children Have Rights in Society) website in a copyrighted 2010 report. It tells us that Greville Janner, along with being the Chairman of the Holocaust Educational Trust, the President of the Commonwealth Jewish Council, a former President of the Board of Deputies of British Jews and Vice President of the World Jewish Congress, is also a member of the Magic Circle and of the International Brotherhood of Magicians.
I wrote about this man and showed a picture of him in my article of April 28, "Why the BBC and Labor Government Cynically Backed the Denis Avey Holocaust Hoax, and Why They Won't Let It Go." Here are two other pictures of him.

Francis Lawrence, founder of the Campaign for Decency, wrote this about Janner in 2005:

JANNER is a child molester well known to the police. An active file on his activities has been maintained at Scotland Yard since even before the eruption of the Leicester Children's Home scandal of 1991 … JANNER used the device of a "Personal Statement" to deny all the accusations against him. Statements to the House of Commons of this kind, apart from being covered by Parliamentary privilege, are exempt from the usual interjections *and questions* from other MPs. After making his statement JANNER was invited by the press to answer their questions *outside* the privileged confines of the House. He refused to do so, and refused to explain why.
Thus it may be seen that his subsequent claims to have been "cleared by Parliament of all accusations" is utterly untrue. JANNER ducked a genuine opportunity to clear his name by taking legal action against his former victim who, as a grown man, has re-iterated his evidence outside the protection of the witness box.

Instead of quitting public life, JANNER simply kept his head down for a while. Now, in the mistaken belief that the dust from the Frank Beck affair has settled, JANNER has had the impudence to take a leading role in the crusade to recover “Holocaust Loot” allegedly held in Swiss banks.
Signed:
Frances Lawrence Campaign for Decency
Hon. Secretary: Andrew Hillier
64 Victoria Street
London SW1E 6QP, England
Tel. 0171-798-2259


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Above: On the 2009 Holocaust Memorial Day ceremonies in Britain, Prime Minister Gordon Brown signs the Holocaust Memorial Day book of commitment watched by Lord Janner, left, and survivors Ben Helfgott and Mala Tribich, right. Does Brown look like captured prey to you?

What the CHRIS website tells us about Greville Janner is mind-blowing! Here is the story:

In 1991, Frank Beck accused Janner of pedophilic behavior with a teenager who was in his (Beck's) care as warden of the Leicester Children's Home. But it was Beck who was arrested and charged with the sexual and physical abuse of children in his care over a thirteen-year period. At his trial Beck stated that: "One child has been buggered and abused for two solid years by Greville Janner".
Beck was referring to Paul Winston, who was just thirteen years old when he and Janner first met. Though Winston was able to describe Janner's home, the hotel rooms they had shared, and Janner's habits and person in detail, the Director of Public Prosecutions, Alan Green, also a Jew, let it be known that "for lack of evidence," Janner would not be prosecuted.


Ironically, Green himself was arrested for kerb-crawling (cruising red-light districts for solicitation of prostitutes) in Kings Cross a little while later. Furthermore, Green had come to the attention of the police previously for this same misdemeanour and was quietly given a formal warning. The scandal prompted his resignation from public office and the suicide of his wife.
In court, Paul Winston, who was, at the time of Beck's trial, a married man with children, stood up for Beck, as did several other witnesses, paying credit to his achievements and behavior, and confirming his testimony against Janner. Winston testified he was invited to Janner's home near Golders Green as a 13-year old, whilst Janner's wife was away, and this led to his sharing Janner's bed where they "cuddled and fondled each other." Thereafter Winston testified that, over the next two years, he was regularly sodomised by Janner.
Beck discovered what had been going on after Winston was put into his care, at which point he informed his superiors at Leicester Social Services. At one point, Janner visited the care home with a new bicycle for Paul but Beck denied him entry and would not allow the gift to be passed on. This was confirmed by another witness at the trial.
Even though Winston testified that Beck had counseled him over his relationship with the MP, and had brought the affair to an end, and had also had a beneficial effect on his life, Beck was nevertheless found guilty and sentenced to twenty-four years in prison, with five life sentences to run concurrently for his "crimes"! What the heck is going on in English courts, we may well ask.
What is going on seems to be "Jew power", the same kind of Jew power we saw at the Nuremberg Tribunals in 1946. Janner was never brought to court, nor was he ever called upon to testify. In 1994 at the age of only 52, after a game of badminton, according to prison officials, Frank Beck died suddenly of a 'heart attack' shortly before his appeal was due to begin. He was, by all accounts, a fit man at the time of his death. He never stopped protesting his innocence and Janner's guilt. Of Beck's two main solicitors, who believed in his innocence, one has since been killed in a road accident, and the other has been subjected to police harassment on a major scale.
The report of Beck's untimely death in The Independent UK on June 2, 1994 contained no mention whatsoever of Greville Janner. Nor is there any mention of this affair on Janner's Wikipedia page--suggesting a widespread cover-up by the British-Jewish elite.


Janner made a peer to escape being thrown out by voters
Several years later, in 1997, Janner was ennobled and took the title Baron of Braunstone. The man responsible for ennobling Greville Janner was Tony Blair (former Labor Party Prime Minister). As a member of the House of Lords, who are appointed essentially by the Sovereign on the recommendation of the Prime Minister rather than voted in as are the members of the House of Commons, Janner cannot be removed from office by the people.1 A "privilege" enjoyed by both Houses is that of freedom from arrest, although it is not total any longer.2
Placing him in the House of Lords is believed to have been done for the protection of Greville Janner, so that he can remain a respectable actor in British politics and society. We have to assume that Janner donated a hefty sum to the British Labor Party in order to be recommended for a peerage. Or did he use blackmail? Gordon Brown is himself accused of being a pedophile, and Tony Blair accused of covering up for senior members of his government, no doubt including his Chancellor of the Exchequer, Brown.


How closely can we connect Avey to Janner?
This child molester, Janner, is the man Denis Avey thanked, right after thanking his wife and Sir Martin Gilbert who wrote the short forward, in the acknowledgements in his book The Man Who Broke Into Auschwitz. He thanks Lord Janner, Karen Pollack and the team at the Holocaust Education Trust for their "ongoing help and support," and writes "Their work is beyond value." After Janner, he thanks Gordon Brown. So not only is Avey a liar and a poseur of the worst sort because of his made-up stories about his time in the POW camp at Auschwitz, he has no problem associating himself and getting assistance from the lowest forms of humanity in the United Kingdom, such as Janner. It is not reasonable to think that, as a Brit interested in British politics, he had not heard something about the Janner scandal; certainly his co-writer Rob Broomby knew all about it. Tellingly, Broomby did not mention Janner or the HET in his acknowledgements.
It's no wonder Avey so recklessly accuses innocent people of crimes that occurred only in his own sick fantasies--he obviously has no standards or scruples by which he guides his life, in spite of all his talk about his solid 'country' upbringing in Essex, and being a 'man of principle.' Avey writes in Chapter One of his book, "I grew up in a world of moral certainties and I was expected to stand up for what was right. [My father] taught me to respect humans and animals." What about unprotected children? It is clear from his show of respect for Greville Janner and Gordon Brown that Avey is not a man who 'stands up' for what is right. Instead, he 'stands up' for personal profit and falsely asserting himself as a 'hero.'





Janner the magician
What kind of illusionism did the morally-bankrupt Janner perform to get the police and prosecutors to refrain from investigating him, and to go after Frank Beck instead, the CHRIS website asks? It answers that in the House of Parliament, Janner had simply uttered a general denial, defamed his principal accuser Paul Winston (behind the protection of Parliamentary privilege) and whined about his suffering! He was not asked a single question by any of the Members who heard him, nor did he have to endure detailed cross-examination as did those who gave evidence at Beck's trial because he was not called as a witness.
Did he by any chance assist Avey in his own illusionism of presenting himself to the British public as a war hero, and a man of grandiose deeds? Avey has also not been subjected to questioning or any kind of scrutiny. Those who have come out and said they don't believe him are quietly ignored by the press and the government hacks who named him a "Hero of the Holocaust." What a racket! And what a combination these two men make. Truly, we live in an age of delusion and corruption perhaps unparalleled in history.
An important point I want to make is that this revolting travesty of justice reveals the connection, in the clearest manner possible, between the Holocaust and Politics. In the United Kingdom, as similarly in the United States and the European Union, the Holocaust is used to give substance and credibility to the most unworthy politicians and political agendas. This is a scandal that when it really breaks open will reveal the slimy and deeply evil underbelly of the 'New World Order' created in 1945-46 with the totally falsified Nuremberg Tribunals and the on-going show trials that followed. One current example is the John Demjanjuk show trial which just ended.
In closing, I will add that Greville Janner, now Lord Janner of Braunstone, was born in 1928, married in 1955, and has, with his wife, three children and six grandchildren. He took over his father Barnett Janner's Leicester seat in Parliament, and also followed his father as Chairman of the Zionist Federation of Great Britain. A fine British family.

Endnotes:

1) According to Wikipedia, There is no limit on the number of peerages the Sovereign (King or Queen) may create under the Life Peerages Act. Normally life peerages are granted to individuals nominated by political parties or by the House of Lords Appointments Commission, and to honor important public figures. There is currently no recognized way for a life peer to leave the upper House permanently and voluntarily.

2) Another privilege claimed is that of freedom from arrest; at one time this was held to apply for any arrest except for high treason, felony or breach of the peace but it now excludes any arrest on criminal charges. Wikipedia, Parliament of the UK.

Apparently, not only is he an accused pedophile, probably an actual one, and a promoter of the holocaust exaggerations, he is also a dirty plagarist. Is there anything this scumbag will not do? It seems to me that there needs to be a book written about this guy. Funny how the freaks at holocaust controversies love to use the guilty by association technique against Graf and Mattogno regarding certain other people they have been in the company of (and which gets refuted in their latest 1500 page collaboration), and yet here we have an opportunity to throw it back in their face regarding Janner. Not to mention of course that the holocaust controversies crowd themselves are criminals and hang out with Mike Peters, also an accused pedophile.

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby Speeder » 6 years 2 months ago (Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:50 pm)

He has been mentioned many times over the last 30 years as a kiddy fiddler here in the UK.

Irving has a dossier on him.

I was recently invited to an event that he would attend and I wrote to the EU Ambassador that invited me explaining why I could not attend if he was there and why that was so. The event also asked for a compulsory "contribution" to the HET which I was not prepared to make.

He is one of a number of Jewish paedophiles that have escaped prosecution he should be brought to justice just as they are now trying to do with the camp cooks in DE.

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby Kingfisher » 6 years 2 months ago (Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:09 pm)

The Daily Mail published this nice pic:

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby borjastick » 6 years 2 months ago (Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:45 am)

It is interesting that the Daily Mail web site yesterday when the story broke, didn't cover it. It is on the web site today but buried way way down on the home page. Remember this is a paper that weekly runs stories a) in support and promotion of the holocaust and b) negatively against the Germans.

The Daily Mail is a disgusting media outlet that hates the Germans and loves the jews/Israel/holocaust and will do what it has to to follow its agenda.

As for Janner he will get what he deserves in the eyes of the law. Currently for those who don't know the UK is going through a period of adjustment in terms of historic celebrity and privilege persons child sex abuse. The law is coming down hard on them. Janner will no doubt use his considerable black book of contacts to escape justice, if indeed he has done wrong. I wonder how the holocaust industry will treat him now.
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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby cold beer » 6 years 1 month ago (Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:45 am)

He was a war crimes investigator, 3:20

He attended the 2nd anniversary of the liberation of Bergen-Belsen
Then spent the evening at the orphanage and came back almost every weekend for the next 18 months 4:00

He says that the mass graves of Lithuanian are being torn up
I must say that's tragic on so many levels not the least of which is the loss of ability to disprove the deniers.

He ends his speech pointing out that together they have power
He appears to have friends with a lot of influence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3pcX4Npbc4

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Postby borjastick » 6 years 1 month ago (Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:14 am)

He was simply blowing smoke up the arses of the audience. He is a sycophantic egomaniac preaching to the converted. But don't forget he was a very young man when he was a 'war crimes investigator' and probably didn't have much experience of any type upon which to draw. In any case, as with the Nuremberg hearings, the fact that he is jewish counts against his impartial judgement in the holocaust.

It doesn't matter how hard they say they are researching the Lithuanian killing zones they won't find the proof they think is there. Because it doesn't exist and they know it. Just as in the recent Treblinka research project which took an amazing six years and found nothing, rien, de nada, zip.

They will hide evidence, obfuscate and ignore those of us who demand scientific proof of the claims of the holocaust. There is none.
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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby cold beer » 6 years 1 month ago (Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:30 pm)

borjastick wrote:He was simply blowing smoke up the arses of the audience. He is a sycophantic egomaniac preaching to the converted. But don't forget he was a very young man when he was a 'war crimes investigator' and probably didn't have much experience of any type upon which to draw. In any case, as with the Nuremberg hearings, the fact that he is jewish counts against his impartial judgement in the holocaust.

It doesn't matter how hard they say they are researching the Lithuanian killing zones they won't find the proof they think is there. Because it doesn't exist and they know it. Just as in the recent Treblinka research project which took an amazing six years and found nothing, rien, de nada, zip.

They will hide evidence, obfuscate and ignore those of us who demand scientific proof of the claims of the holocaust. There is none.

Sir I believe you misunderstood the tone of my post which was intended to be overt sarcasm.
I found it 'interesting', considering the allegations surrounding him, the ease with which he announced the frequency of his visits to an orphanage.
This 'pillar of the community' was a war crimes investigator, his 'integrity' was probably equal to that of his peers.
My comment on the 'mass graves' in Lithuania...more sarcasm.

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Postby borjastick » 6 years 1 month ago (Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:00 am)

OK cold beer no problem. I was specifically commenting on the speech of his in the YT film. He was carried away with his own ego and self importance that he should be speaking to such a group of Israeli leaders in the Knesset. He uses his background as a 'war crimes investigator' as a support for his credibility but in reality he was a naive young man, a child in a war torn Europe who in reality knew nothing.

My guess is if they bring charges and or his reputation is tarnished to such a degree the holocaust fraternity will drop him like a hot potato. He will have served their needs and will be deemed expendable.
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Postby Kingfisher » 6 years 1 month ago (Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:13 am)

Yet again, his "entire family" in Latvia and Lithuania was exterminated. We have no information, of course, on how he knows this. He just knows, despite the fact that his father left Lithuania in 1892 at the age of 9 months. I don't question his sincerity in believing this, only the grounds on which it is based, and for that reason I have avoided the sarcasm I was initially tempted to use.

The War Crimes Investigation Unit for which he worked ran the London Cage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Cage. Quis custodiet ipsos custodies?

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Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 6 years 1 month ago (Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:17 pm)

Kingfisher wrote:Yet again, his "entire family" in Latvia and Lithuania was exterminated. We have no information, of course, on how he knows this. He just knows, despite the fact that his father left Lithuania in 1892 at the age of 9 months. I don't question his sincerity in believing this, only the grounds on which it is based, and for that reason I have avoided the sarcasm I was initially tempted to use.


What were your first impressions of Bergen-Belsen? Did you understand the magnitude of what had happened during the Holocaust before you went there?

Well I knew that my entire family in Europe had been wiped out; I knew that every one of my relatives was in the mass graves somewhere in Lithuania or in Latvia; my Grandparents came to the United Kingdom, all four of them in the 1880s, but every one of the family who’d remained behind had been murdered.

http://www.hmd.org.uk/resources/stories ... yVGR8.dpuf


So the Grenvilles—who'd lived in England for 3 generations—knew as early as April 1945 that ALL their distance relatives in Lithuania and Latvia had been murdered by the Germans.

How is he sure that his second/third-cousins, once; twice; thrice removed, weren't among the several thousand Lithuanian Jews deported deep into Russia long before the Germans rolled in?

Lithuanian Jewish Evacuees on Farms in Mongolia, Siberia

September 17, 1941

LONDON (Sep. 16)

Several thousand Lithuanian Jews who were evacuated by Soviet authorities prior to the German invasion of their country, have been settled on farms in Soviet Mongolia and Eastern Siberia, according to reliable information received here.

The evacuation of the Jews in Lithuania was started a week before the actual invasion. Although it is not known what principles governed the Soviet authorities in selecting the evacuees, it has been established that many non-Communists, former traders and religious Jews were among them. The Soviet officials did everything to provide the Jewish refugees with the necessities of life, the report states.

http://www.jta.org/1941/09/17/archive/l ... z2oEwNnEFb


Prominent Lithuanian Jews Located in Siberia

September 9, 1942

LONDON (Sep. 8 )

A number of prominent Lithuanian Jews whose whereabouts have been unknown for a long time, are safe in Siberia to where they were evacuated by the Soviet authorities, according to information received by the Polish Jewish Refugee Fund here.

http://www.jta.org/1942/09/09/archive/p ... z2oExPjDwL


Jews from Vilna and Kaunas Find Welcome in Uzbekistan; Majority Live in Kokand

February 2, 1943

Kuibyshev (Feb. 1)

Jews evacuated by the Russian authorities from Vilna and Kaunas prior to the Nazi occupation of those cities have found new homes and occupations in Uzbekistan, the majority of them in the city of Kokand, it was reported here today by the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee which will open its annual conference in Moscow on February 14, with delegates from all parts of the U.S.S.R. participating.

http://www.jta.org/1943/02/02/archive/j ... z2oExpP85J


The same week the Brits took control of Belsen, the return of the Lithuanian Jews was in full flow:

Number of Jews in Vilna Grows to 4,000; Speedy Return of Evacuated Jews Planned

April 13, 1945

Moscow (Apr. 12)

The number of Jews in Vilna has increased to 4,000 as compared with the few dozens that were there eight months ago when the city was liberated by the Red Army, it was reported here today by Perez Markish, Jewish writer who has just returned from a trip to Lithuania and Poland.

http://www.jta.org/1945/04/13/archive/n ... z2oEyNsipe
Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby Kingfisher » 6 years 1 month ago (Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:15 pm)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:So the Grenvilles—who'd lived in England for 3 generations—knew as early as April 1945 that ALL their distance relatives in Lithuania and Latvia had been murdered by the Germans.

A little later, though an understandable assumption on your part, Black Rabbit. He didn't turn 18, and therefore didn't join the Army till July 1946. I assume at that age his investigative role was pretty subordinate.

Doesn't really affect the points you make, though. Thanks for those. I have always assumed that most Jews fled Latvia and Lithuania with the Soviets, but it's good to have documentary confirmation.

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby Hannover » 6 years 1 month ago (Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:30 pm)

Kingfisher:
I have always assumed that most Jews fled Latvia and Lithuania with the Soviets, but it's good to have documentary confirmation.
"Fled"? Looks to me that the vast majority were removed by the Soviets, probably for labor purposes. Fled not.

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Re: Good old Greville Janner

Postby borjastick » 6 years 1 month ago (Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:16 am)

Seems to me if his immediate family from grand parents down left Lithuania three or four decades earlier then other members of his extended family may have left too. He doesn't say why his grand parents left but they were able to leave and come and settle in the UK.

I would hazard a guess that even if his other relatives did survive the war era in relative comfort and safety elsewhere and they were all in touch later on he wouldn't say so, as we wouldn't want the truth to get in the way of a good tragedy would we?
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