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Revisionist Grubach takes the ADL's Foxman to school

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:41 am)

The notorious criminal organization, the so called 'Anti-Defamation League', is well known for it's judeo-supremacist activities. As well, the ADL has been repeatedly caught in criminal behavior. They are essentially a hate organization which promotes interest of Zionists at the expense of others.

Read here as Paul Grubach demolishes the kingpin of the ADL, Abe Foxman. Grubach literally takes Foxman to school in regards to Foxman's lying statements about 'holocau$t' Revisionists. Read on.

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Holocaust Revisionism Confronts ADL Director Foxman

By Paul Grubach

In the 1/30/2004 issue of, I briefly commented upon the new and important book on so-called "Anti-Semitism" by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Director Abraham Foxman. Since Mr. Foxman is considered to be one of the most influential Jewish figures in the US and because Never Again? The Threat of the New Anti-Semitism is widely held to be a major "publishing event," I would like to offer a brief rebuttal to one of his most important attacks upon Holocaust revisionism. On page 219, the ADL Director puts forth an argument against the "anti-semitic" Holocaust revisionism. Let us deal with some of his claims in turn.

Foxman writes: "To make their claims credible, Holocaust deniers are forced to reject enormous volumes of historical evidence from World War II, resorting to fantastic conspiracy theories about Jews. Records from the period, including thousands of pages of evidence used immediately after the war in the Nuremberg trials, are dismissed as forged by a secret committee; ..."

Grubach responds. It is a fact that these "enormous volumes of historical evidence" are chock full of false claims, bogus evidence and outright lies. This alone makes any "evidence" from the Nuremberg records that are used to "prove" Foxman's view of the Holocaust to be very questionable and suspect.
We now know that a large amount of phony and bogus "evidence" was indeed forged by secret committees--composed of the victorious Americans, British, Zionists and Soviet Communists--"behind the scenes" at Nuremberg. For example, consider the Katyn Forest massacre.

In April 1943 the Germans announced that, in the Katyn Forest near Smolensk, they found mass graves of thousands of Polish officers that were captured by the Russians in 1939. These hapless Poles were clearly murdered by the Soviets, and all historians today agree that the Soviet Communists were truly the guilty party. Yet, at the postwar Nuremberg Trials the Soviets hatched a conspiracy to pin this horrible crime on the Germans.
Mr. Foxman should examine Nuremberg Document 054-USSR, an "expert report" by a Special Soviet Commission that "proves" the Germans committed this dastardly deed. Contrary to what Foxman claims, the Nuremberg documents that falsely "prove" the Germans are guilty of the crime were indeed forged by a secret committee "behind the scenes" at the Nuremberg Trials. Here is a clear example of a Soviet Communist conspiracy to deceive the public about the true nature of this horrific massacre. The Communists were indeed guilty of the crime, but at Nuremberg they conspired to pin the crime on the Germans.

Mr. Foxman should then consider the case of the Treblinka concentration camp "steam chambers." Nuremberg Document PS 3311 is a "physical, hands-on study" of the "murderous steam chambers of Treblinka." The group of investigators that created the document describe in detail the alleged "steam chambers" and how they operate. Clearly, this group of investigators "saw and examined the steam chambers with their own eyes and hands." Once again, here is another lie that was created "behind the scenes" by a secret Committee at the Nuremberg trials. It is now conceded by Holocaust historians that there were no "steam chambers" at Treblinka. John Demjanjuk was convicted of operating the Treblinka "gas chambers" that allegedly used diesel exhaust as the killing agent.

Veteran Revisionist Carlos Porter has gone through the Nuremberg papers and collected a large number of these Nuremberg documents that promote outright falsehoods. He put this large collection of documents into a book and video entitled The Holocaust: Made in Russia, both of which I believe are still available from the Institute for Historical Review: -Mr. Foxman is strongly encouraged to read the book and see the video, because what Porter shows in his collection of Nuremberg documents is that there was a clear pattern of intended deception on the part of the Nuremberg Tribunal to deceive the public. This is not a case of "unintentional errors and mistakes." This collection of documents strongly suggest a conspiracy. Contrary to what Foxman writes, these forged documents were indeed created by secret committees that were hell bent on deceiving the world about alleged German atrocities.

There is no doubt that Jewish-Zionist elements were a major force behind the creation of the "Hitler gas chamber" legend. But no serious revisionist has ever maintained that "the Jews" were the only force behind the creation and propagation of Holocaust myths. Revisionists point out that the non-Jewish Allies--the Americans, the British, and the Soviets--were also behind the creation interests of these victorious powers. For example, the "Auschwitz gas chamber" legend could have never gotten off of the ground if the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin did not allow the lie to flourish. It just so happened the "Auschwitz gas chamber" legend served the political interests of the tyrannical Stalin. He practiced the shrewd propaganda tactic of "obliteration by contrast." That is, in order to cover up his own crimes, he exaggerated and promoted lies about German war crimes.

Once again, contrary to what Foxman writes, the revisionists do not resort to "fantastic conspiracy theories about the Jews." The revisionists point out that victorious non-Jewish American, British and Soviet powers did cooperate with Jewish-Zionist forces in order to create certain Holocaust lies and exaggerations because it served the sociopolitical interests of all of these groups. There is nothing "fantastic" about this revisionist claim. It is based in fact.

Foxman continues: "American GIs who saw the death apparatus in the camps are said to have been duped by the American military itself, which was corrupted by Jewish concerns and also complicit in the conspiracy."

Grubach responds. Once again, contradicting Foxman, the American military is indeed guilty of promoting lies at Nuremberg. Document 2430-PS is a US Army documentary film about Nazi concentration camps that was submitted as evidence at the Nuremberg Tribunal. In the motion picture it is claimed that homicidal gas chambers were operated at Dauchau concentration camp in order to mass murder inmates. It is now conceded by all serious historians that no homicidal gas chambers were ever operated at Dauchau to mass murder inmates. (See for example, Shermer and Grobman's DENYING HISTORY, p.112)

Again, contrary to what ADL chieftain Foxman claims, there is strong evidence that the American military did dupe American GIs about the nonexistent "Hitler gas chambers." In 1959, American lawyer Stephen S. Pinter wrote:
"I was in Dauchau [German concentration camp] for 17 months after the war, as a US War Department Attorney, and can state that there was no [homicidal] gas chamber at Dauchau. What was shown to visitors and sightseers there and erroneously described as a [homicidal] gas chamber, was a crematory." (See the Catholic weekly Our Sunday Visitor, June 14, 1959, p.15)

Mr. Foxman has given a distorted view of Holocaust revisionism, and in a future issue of Germar Rudolf' The Revisionist, I will clear up his distortions in a lengthy essay. I believe this is of the utmost importance, because his book certainly enjoys wide circulation and influence.
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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:45 am)

Talking about the ADL:

A new hate filter can be downloaded for free from the ADL site. It filters out anything, that could be interpreted as being critical of Israel, Jews and the Holocaust.

ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE HateFilter® is a FREE software product designed to act as a gatekeeper. It protects children by blocking access to World Wide Web sites of individuals or groups that, in the judgment of the Anti-Defamation League, advocate hatred, bigotry or even violence towards Jews or other groups on the basis of their religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or other immutable characteristics.



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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:08 pm)

Using the search function here for 'ADL' yields these informative threads:

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the ADL & FBI / a disturbing relationship:

An utterly disgusting, agenda driven organization.

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