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Auschwitz-80,000 inmates at 10th anniversary of liberation?

Postby cold beer » 6 years 5 months ago (Mon May 05, 2014 10:20 am)

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/polish-anniversary-of-liberation-of-auschwitz-aka/query/prisoners-of-war
That's a significant number so this film raises questions for me:
Is it to be assumed that these 80,000 are mostly non-Jews? (it's claimed that very few Jews remained in Poland after the war)
How many non-Jews are said to have been taken to Auschwitz?
What does this mean in terms of the survival rate of former prisoners being that we have testimonies from large numbers of Jews who survived Auschwitz who left Europe after the war?
What are the total number of survivors who at one point were taken to Auschwitz?

It's seems completely out of place for 80,000 former prisoners to be attending a ten year anniversary of the liberation of an extermination camp, which for reasons stated above doesn't approach the total number of survivors.

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Re: Auschwitz-80,000 inmates at 10th anniversary of liberati

Postby trevor » 6 years 5 months ago (Sun May 11, 2014 7:27 am)

"A total of about 400 thousand prisoners were registered: 195 thousand non-Jews and 205 thousand Jews."
http://en.auschwitz.org/h/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=13

The number of registered prisoners by year:


1940
Men 8,000
Women -
Total 8,000

1941
Men 26,500
Women -
Total 26,500

1942
Men 61,500
Women 28,000
Total 89,500

1943
Men 96,000
Women 56,000
Total 152,000

1944/1945
Men 67,500
Women 47,000
Total 114,500

1941-1945
Men 9,000*
Women 2,000*
Total 11,000*

Razem
Men 268,500
Women 133,000
Total Approx. 400,000


* Reeducation prisoners (Erziehungshäftlinge − EH. ).


"Slightly more than 23.5 thousand children and young people were registered in the camp, out of the total of 400 thousand registered prisoners."
http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/h/index.php? ... &Itemid=21

"According to Dr. Piper the best estimates for the number of prisoners transferred from Auschwitz between 1940-45 was 212,820; the number released: 1,500; escaped: 500; and the number liberated by the Soviets at 8,000. This gives a total of 222,820 people who left Auschwitz alive (but not necessarily survived the Holocaust). (cf.Ibid. p. 71.)"

My personal comment:
The number of prisoners that were registered in Auschwitz, released or escaped is known from the records but the total number of prisoners sent to Auschwitz and transferred from Auschwitz ( without being registered ) is not fully known because the records are incomplete. It seems many records of transferred prisoners conveniently disappeared so that they can be proclaimed "gassed".. The estimates of the number of people transported to Auschwitz vary by as much as 500 000 . Estimates are completely useless to establish anything.

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Re: Auschwitz-80,000 inmates at 10th anniversary of liberati

Postby cold beer » 6 years 5 months ago (Mon May 12, 2014 10:40 am)

trevor wrote:My personal comment:
The number of prisoners that were registered in Auschwitz, released or escaped is known from the records but the total number of prisoners sent to Auschwitz and transferred from Auschwitz ( without being registered ) is not fully known because the records are incomplete. It seems many records of transferred prisoners conveniently disappeared so that they can be proclaimed "gassed".. The estimates of the number of people transported to Auschwitz vary by as much as 500 000 . Estimates are completely useless to establish anything.


Thanks for the reply.
These stats you provide are extremely interesting, my question would be, how can we be sure that any prisoners or any significant number of prisoners went unregistered?
What is that claim based on?
At first bluff, it almost seems too natural to suspect that this claim is nothing more than a cover story.

Something I think I should mention is that in another film produced by British Pathe (the same source for the video I linked to) misrepresented the number of deaths claimed at the first Auschwitz trial in Krakow (which I became aware of after I started this thread).
With that in mind the 80,000 figure in attendance at this anniversary probably shouldn't be taken as factual without verification from other source(s)


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