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David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby EtienneSC » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu May 08, 2014 4:10 am)

We need a thread on the recent videos and forthcoming book by David Cole/Stein, as he has so much new material coming out. I know his original outing last year is covered in another thread. Here for example is significant new info on Michael Shermer of the skeptic community:


I think some of this is a little underhand (secret recordings and an unproven allegation against someone in the public eye), but it is interesting about the self-proclaimed "skeptic" community in the USA. Shermer calls Hilberg "remarkably ignorant" about gas chambers for example, and seems to concede that the Jewish death toll might have been 1 million, but this is not what he says in public. I have to say, if these are skeptics, I'd hate to meet a dogmatist!

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Kingfisher » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu May 08, 2014 4:49 am)

EtienneSC wrote:We need a thread on the recent videos and forthcoming book by David Cole/Stein, as he has so much new material coming out. I know his original outing last year is covered in another thread. Here for example is significant new info on Michael Shermer of the skeptic community:
Thanks for posting this. As Cole seems to make all his videos from that same padded cell I've tended to assume "I've already seen this" whenit isn't so.
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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Gary Freeman » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu May 08, 2014 5:37 am)

EtienneSC wrote:I think some of this is a little underhand (secret recordings and an unproven allegation against someone in the public eye), but it is interesting about the self-proclaimed "skeptic" community in the USA.


Underhanded, sure.

Worth it, absolutely.

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Inquisitor » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu May 08, 2014 6:45 am)

I cannot bring myself to worry about any possible "underhandedness" going on here. Given the depth and breadth of the whole "holocaust" deception and the fanatical, draconian efforts to denounce, imprison and even physically harm those who dare ask simple historical questions, I think all bets are off, so to speak, in terms of exposing the mendacity of the gate-keepers and professional cheerleaders.

Interesting videos...

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby borjastick » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu May 08, 2014 6:47 am)

I have only watched the second video thus far and so this comment is for that.

I cannot see what is so underhand as we are not told whether Shermer knew about the recording. However as someone in the public eye if he is asked a number of questions he should expect his answers to be at least written down and reproduced in some format.

However the real issue for me is when Shermer says something like 'it doesn't matter how many were killed, 6m or 1m the holocaust still happened'. This is an answer I have come up against before and it seems to me it's an answer of someone who wants facts when they suit the argument but deem facts irrelevant when it suits them as well.

To say it doesn't matter how many were killed is absolute nonsense, of course it matters! If the proof showed that only 300,000 jews died in the camps, by any means, then would Germany have had to pay billions in compensation and payments? Would Israel be in possession of a get out of jail free card for stealing land not theirs and killing thousands of palestinians?

Would mandated Holocaust indoctrination of our children be happening in schools across the western world?

Would legal protection of the holocaust be in place or even needed and would the persecution and violence against revisionists happen?

Would Revisionism even exist if the lies of the Holocaust hadn't been let out of the bottle?

So of course it matters how many died.
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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Mortimer » 5 years 9 months ago (Sat May 10, 2014 12:27 am)

I knew Michael Shermer was a phoney back in the 1990's when he debated Mark Weber - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5fyc9St2rk To me he came across as shifty and untrustworthy - just like a snake oil salesman.
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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Zulu » 5 years 9 months ago (Fri May 16, 2014 2:22 pm)

EtienneSC wrote:We need a thread on the recent videos and forthcoming book by David Cole/Stein, as he has so much new material coming out. I know his original outing last year is covered in another thread. Here for example is significant new info on Michael Shermer of the skeptic community:

I think some of this is a little underhand (secret recordings and an unproven allegation against someone in the public eye), but it is interesting about the self-proclaimed "skeptic" community in the USA. Shermer calls Hilberg "remarkably ignorant" about gas chambers for example, and seems to concede that the Jewish death toll might have been 1 million, but this is not what he says in public. I have to say, if these are skeptics, I'd hate to meet a dogmatist!

The last videos produced by David Cole are not anymore available on Youtube so the links given here are black. It is the same on his site http://www.countercontempt.com/ maybe he could have experienced some trouble with Shermer.
Could someone put it on archive.org or as attached files in Announcements and Informative Downloads? please?

A new post on May 7th, 2014, appeared in my search (video from mp3)

Interview With Famous Holocaust Denier David Cole Stein (Vinny Eastwood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbod58kAxI
Source http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/201 ... cole-stein

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Scotsman » 5 years 8 months ago (Sun May 18, 2014 7:06 am)

I was able to watch his introduction but not the actual phone recording...seems it was 86'd.

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby diaz52 » 5 years 8 months ago (Tue May 20, 2014 5:36 am)

Zulu wrote:
EtienneSC wrote:We need a thread on the recent videos and forthcoming book by David Cole/Stein, as he has so much new material coming out. I know his original outing last year is covered in another thread. Here for example is significant new info on Michael Shermer of the skeptic community:

I think some of this is a little underhand (secret recordings and an unproven allegation against someone in the public eye), but it is interesting about the self-proclaimed "skeptic" community in the USA. Shermer calls Hilberg "remarkably ignorant" about gas chambers for example, and seems to concede that the Jewish death toll might have been 1 million, but this is not what he says in public. I have to say, if these are skeptics, I'd hate to meet a dogmatist!

The last videos produced by David Cole are not anymore available on Youtube so the links given here are black. It is the same on his site http://www.countercontempt.com/ maybe he could have experienced some trouble with Shermer.
Could someone put it on archive.org or as attached files in Announcements and Informative Downloads? please?

A new post on May 7th, 2014, appeared in my search (video from mp3)

Interview With Famous Holocaust Denier David Cole Stein (Vinny Eastwood)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbod58kAxI
Source http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/201 ... cole-stein


Haw haw haw!! I was 'Skeptical' if Michael Schermer was a complete momma's boy, but now I know he is, lol. Poor baby needs to complain and get videos removed. Loser.

Anyways, can't wait to get Cole's book as he promised more secret recording revelations of what Schermer is willing to say in private; that is, what he really thinks. What a total fraud.

On the up side, the Cole interview by Vinny Eastwood is very good.
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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby astro3 » 5 years 8 months ago (Tue May 27, 2014 5:29 am)

Cole's book has an Appendix which outlines his position on the Holocaust. It claims there were active homicidal gas-chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor , Chelmno and Belzec.
So what's going on here?

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby Haldan » 5 years 8 months ago (Tue May 27, 2014 8:06 am)

astro3 wrote:Cole's book has an Appendix which outlines his position on the Holocaust. It claims there were active homicidal gas-chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor , Chelmno and Belzec.
So what's going on here?


I have no idea, astro3, but David Stein (formerly Cole) was alerted about a topic on this forum which dealt with his claims about the alleged Natzweiler "gas chamber", questions given by our Steve F...but he (David Stein / David Cole) remained quiet like a Church mouse. Instead he appeared on radio show after radio show, making new claims. But wasn't willing to debate any of his (previous) weird claims.

This was the topic David Cole / David Stein was alerted about, and which he ignored completely.:
Audio from David Cole at recent IHR meeting

I think one should be wary of David Stein (formerly Cole).
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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby cold beer » 5 years 8 months ago (Tue May 27, 2014 5:59 pm)

Haldan wrote:
astro3 wrote:Cole's book has an Appendix which outlines his position on the Holocaust. It claims there were active homicidal gas-chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor , Chelmno and Belzec.
So what's going on here?


I have no idea, astro3, but David Stein (formerly Cole) was alerted about a topic on this forum which dealt with his claims about the alleged Natzweiler "gas chamber", questions given by our Steve F...but he (David Stein / David Cole) remained quiet like a Church mouse. Instead he appeared on radio show after radio show, making new claims. But wasn't willing to debate any of his (previous) weird claims.

This was the topic David Cole / David Stein was alerted about, and which he ignored completely.:
Audio from David Cole at recent IHR meeting

I think one should be wary of David Stein (formerly Cole).

Yes I listened to him make claims that there are documents proving that the Germans were exterminating large numbers of jews in the soviet union.
Mark Weber and David Irving have made similar claims.

Considering the history of false accusations you would think by now that documents of this type which were allegedly discovered by (as opposed to generated by) the allies would be viewed with a large dose of skepticism.
There's something very suspect about them being willing to accept allegations of mass shootings based on the documents in question.

Forget those document(s) lets see someone dig out the proof with shovels.

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby spaceboy » 5 years 8 months ago (Wed May 28, 2014 4:39 am)

astro3 wrote:Cole's book has an Appendix which outlines his position on the Holocaust. It claims there were active homicidal gas-chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor , Chelmno and Belzec.
So what's going on here?


I pre-ordered the book. Amazon sent an e-mail saying the estimated delivery date is June 2nd to June 4th. Does he offer an explanation as to why he believes that, or does he just claim it without further elaboration?

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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby borjastick » 5 years 8 months ago (Wed May 28, 2014 6:35 am)

astro3 wrote:Cole's book has an Appendix which outlines his position on the Holocaust. It claims there were active homicidal gas-chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor , Chelmno and Belzec.
So what's going on here?


My view is that he is seeking a smidgin of rehabilitation within the jewish community and by claiming these gas chambers were active in the very camps that cannot be investigated and have never offered up any proof he is able to swing with the boys, and yet never leave his generally anti holocaust perch.

I was thinking this a few weeks ago when the video came out with him stating facts about Natzweiler's gas chambers. Then I thought he was maybe trying to lure the holocaust establishment out into the open.
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Re: David Cole 2014 book "Republican Party Animal"

Postby diaz52 » 5 years 8 months ago (Wed May 28, 2014 7:42 am)

spaceboy wrote:
astro3 wrote:Cole's book has an Appendix which outlines his position on the Holocaust. It claims there were active homicidal gas-chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor , Chelmno and Belzec.
So what's going on here?


I pre-ordered the book. Amazon sent an e-mail saying the estimated delivery date is June 2nd to June 4th. Does he offer an explanation as to why he believes that, or does he just claim it without further elaboration?


Right, I did as well. There is a Kindle version available to purchase and read now, but I haven't gotten it. At this point its only a little longer until the hardcopy book arrives so will just have to be patient. I'm going to suspend any kind of judgement until I can read the book for myself. David's outstanding earlier work with regard to Holocaust revisionism has earned him that much, IMHO.
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