U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert Jackson was a Zionist

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Re: U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert Jackson was a Zionist

Postby hermod » 4 years 3 months ago (Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:40 am)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:Interesting assertion and that Boaz Cohen article looks intriguing, but when I tried to find the source of the passage you put, in that Cohen document, it was confusing, because the source had another "ibid" and I couldn't figure out what was what.


You can find Robinson talking about that in a report to his bosses of the World Jewish Congress here: http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlesto ... g&groupid=
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Re: U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert Jackson was a Zionist

Postby hermod » 4 years 1 month ago (Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:47 pm)

According to Jackson, one couldn't be American and anti-Zionist. And it's good to know that, around 2 years before the Nuremberg judicial farce had even begun, Robert Jackson addressed Zionist meetings where some speakers emphatically stated things such as "[t]he Nazis and the Fascists have tried to exterminate the Jews," the kind of "facts of common knowledge" not having to be proved by the victors (art. 21 of the London Charter) 2 years later...

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Re: U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert Jackson was a Zionist

Postby borjastick » 4 years 1 month ago (Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:24 am)

He keeps banging on about jewish homelessness during and after the second world war. Really? How was their plight any different to millions of others? The jews were no more homeless than many others, and in reality weren't homeless at all.

They just conflated all their woes into one strategic argument to get Palestine. The thirteenth tribe, who of course aren't even real jews have ruined judaism for the rest.
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Re: U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert Jackson was a Zionist

Postby hermod » 4 years 1 month ago (Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:46 am)

borjastick wrote:He keeps banging on about jewish homelessness during and after the second world war. Really? How was their plight any different to millions of others? The jews were no more homeless than many others, and in reality weren't homeless at all.

They just conflated all their woes into one strategic argument to get Palestine. The thirteenth tribe, who of course aren't even real jews have ruined judaism for the rest.


When that time's Zionists said 'home', they were talking about a country of their own, a Jewish state in Palestine, not about a home as we understand it today. During the 1930's and 1940's, the Zionists unceasingly claimed that the alleged terrible plight of Jewry came from its own NATIONAL homelessness and that the only solution to all the Jewish sufferings (real and fictional) was the colonial grabbing of Palestine and the establishment of a Jewish state there. As far as homes in today's meaning were concerned, the Zionists worked very hard for the liquidation of as many Jewish homes as possible by the Nazis and their collaborators, for the uprooting of Jewry in Central and Eastern Europe by antisemites (accordingly to the plans and teachings of their messiah Theodor Herzl), before and during WW2, that in order to induce a large Jewish immigration into Palestine. In other words, the Zionists managed to turn the nationally homeless Jews of Central and Eastern Europe (homeless only according to the Zionist views) into residentially homeless people in order to fulfill their own political ambitions in the end.

Few people understand that post-Herzlian Zionism was in fact a war on assimilated Jews, and not a kind of humanitarian reaction to antisemitism as claimed by their own propagandists. IMO, Herzl was sincere when he said that there was no cure for antisemitism except the transfer of the Jews to another land, preferably Palestine, but his successors became so fascinated by the idea of a Jewish state in the Holy Land that they were willing to fuel antisemitism as much as needed to cause their dear 'rebirth of Zion'. In other words, my understanding is that Herzl was moved by genuine humanitarian concerns while his successors were moved by nationalistic appetites and mystico-territorial ambitions.
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Re: U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg Robert Jackson was a Zionist

Postby borjastick » 4 years 1 month ago (Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:10 am)

Yes Hermod i see where you are coming from but as usual i ask the same question: what is it that jews do that makes them so despised and a 'problem' that only the creation of an illegal state, full of bitter mentalists who hate everyone else and is apartheid to its core, which is so difficult to resolve in the greater societies?
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