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Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Crematoria

Postby Kladderadatsch » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:02 am)

Well, I went and did another one. This little video is a gem.



From the description:

Can a Nazi make a square hole in a concrete roof?

In this fascinating video, fearless French revisionist Vincent Reynouard shows us what a real hole looks like in a roof at Auschwitz, then demonstrates that the famous "Zyklon B introduction holes" of the Birkenau "gas chambers" are indeed nowhere to be found. No holes, no holocaust.

An excellent introduction to the history of—and the reality behind—the Soviet propaganda lie that is the story of the Auschwitz gas chambers.


As always, any help with errors, or suggestions for improvements, would be much appreciated. And of course, the thread is open for discussion too. Some revisionists (e.g., Carolyn Yeager) have suggested that the Germans did not in fact blow up the crematoria--that it was the Soviets themselves who did it, to cover up for the fact that they couldn't find any evidence for the gas chamber claim. That's another view of the matter.

Whoever set the charges though, I think you'll all agree that Vincent's demonstration of what a square hole looks like pretty much ends the debate on Kremas II and III. Enjoy.
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby hermod » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:49 am)

As a French-speaking guy, I had watched this video some time ago.

Thanks for your work and for making this video available to English-speaking people, Kladderadatsch.

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby ginger » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:21 pm)

You mentioned Carolyn Yeager and I remember her article on the destroyed crematoria at Auschwitz. She said there were photos at the time of liberation and, at that time, the buildings were smoldering, suggesting the Soviets blew them up. It makes sense, it served the Soviet and Allied purpose.

I could not get English subtitles to show on this video. I wonder if all the Kremas were destroyed or just one.

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:33 pm)

This is really great! Well done Klad. Excellent job.

A couple of things which he's slightly off about:

1. The Polish-Soviet Commission concluded that 1.5 million had been exterminated at Majdanek. The 1,380,000 figure Reynouard mentions is the number of corpses that the commission claimed had been burnt at Majdanek and in the Krempec forest.

2. Reynourad is likely correct that the propaganda field day had by the Soviets over Majdanek influenced the Germans in their decision to dismantle and eventually dynamite the crematoria, but he should have mentioned that the Allies had been spreading propaganda about those very building for several months prior to the Soviet capture of Majdanek.

Here's two articles from 1944 that specifically mention the Birkenau crematoria cum gas chambers:

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U.S. Board Bares Atrocity Details Told by Witnesses at Polish Camps

WASHINGTON, Nov. 25 -- In the first detailed report by a United States Government Agency offering eyewitness proof of mass murder by the Germans, the War Refugee Board made public today accounts by three persons of organized atrocities at Birkenau and Oswiecim [Auschwitz] in southwestern Poland that transcend the horrors of Lublin. ...

The two Slovak Jews cited in the WRB reports estimate the number of Jews gassed and burned at Birkenau in the two-year period at 1,765,000 ...

In the report the Jewish youths describe the gassing and burning technique as follows:

"At present there are four crematoria in operation at Birkenau, two large ones, I and II, and two smaller ones, III and IV. Those of Type I and II consist of three parts, i.e., (a) the furnace room, (b) the large hall, and (c) the gas chamber.
- The New York Times, November 26, 1944, p.1 and 24.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 838F659EDE

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:54 pm)

ginger wrote:You mentioned Carolyn Yeager and I remember her article on the destroyed crematoria at Auschwitz. She said there were photos at the time of liberation and, at that time, the buildings were smoldering, suggesting the Soviets blew them up. It makes sense, it served the Soviet and Allied purpose.

I could not get English subtitles to show on this video. I wonder if all the Kremas were destroyed or just one.


A. Nope; the Germans destroying the crematoria didn't suit the Allies' purpose.

B. It's been proved that the alleged photo of "Canada II" featuring two chimneys Yeager once believed belonged to crematoriums, is not of Canada II, but of Section BI, and that the chimneys belonged to prisoner barracks.
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C. Yeager was put straight by Carlo Mattogno about the destruction of the crematoria by the Germans (he found two docs in Moscow about it—see above link), so she's given up on her theory the Soviets did it.

D. The Germans destroy Krema II, III, and V; Krema IV was destroyed during the prisoner revolt on October 7, 1944 (although the Germans might have finished it off, so to speak, when they dynamited the others).
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:02 pm)

At 5:35 in the video, Reynouard features part of the interrogation of Arthur Liebehenschel.

Does anyone know where he's taken that from? Perhaps from his daughter's book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Auschwitz-Kom ... 0752457551
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby hermod » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:02 pm)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:At 5:35 in the video, Reynouard features part of the interrogation of Arthur Liebehenschel.

Does anyone know where he's taken that from? Perhaps from his daughter's book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Auschwitz-Kom ... 0752457551


Perhaps from "The Nuremberg interviews" by Leon Goldensohn.

http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t ... 555#p24314
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:27 pm)

hermod wrote:
TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:At 5:35 in the video, Reynouard features part of the interrogation of Arthur Liebehenschel.

Does anyone know where he's taken that from? Perhaps from his daughter's book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Auschwitz-Kom ... 0752457551


Perhaps from "The Nuremberg interviews" by Leon Goldensohn.

http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t ... 555#p24314



No, it's definitely from his daughter's book. If you googlebook search any of those quotes BT posted, the only result you'll get is her book.
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby hermod » 4 years 8 months ago (Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:19 pm)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:
hermod wrote:
TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:At 5:35 in the video, Reynouard features part of the interrogation of Arthur Liebehenschel.

Does anyone know where he's taken that from? Perhaps from his daughter's book:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Auschwitz-Kom ... 0752457551


Perhaps from "The Nuremberg interviews" by Leon Goldensohn.

http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t ... 555#p24314



No, it's definitely from his daughter's book. If you googlebook search any of those quotes BT posted, the only result you'll get is her book.


OK. So I had misunderstood what that rodoh poster meant. I thought that he implied that this quote was from Goldensohn's book.

Do you want me to ask Vincent Reynouard what his source is, for greater certainty?
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:38 am)

Thanks for the offer hermod, but I've now found the quote in his daughter's book:

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Playing devil's advocate for the moment; predicting how an anti-revisionist would deal with this. They'd just claim 'so what, they're weren't any gas chambers at Majdanek when Liebehenschel arrived there'.

The present claim of the Majdanek museum—which is subject to change at any given moment—is that the final gassings occurred, probably, in September 1943, but certainly no later than early November 1943. Because the larger 'homicidal gas chamber' in the bunker—the CO only gas chamber—was modified into a room for delousing clothing etc. with Zyklon B.



But an earlier commandant, Hermann Florstedt (Nov 42 - Sept 43), denied outright that there were homicidal gas chambers at his camp, suggesting that people must have confused them with the delousing chambers. This is at least what Globocnik's successor as SSPF Lublin Jakob Sporrenberg told his British interrogators in March 1946 about his visit to Majdanek in either August or Sept 1943:

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby Hannover » 4 years 8 months ago (Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:22 am)

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The final sentence in your posted document UK NA WO208/4673 says that Sporrenberg
was aware that gas chambers existed and that mass exterminations were carried out there.
What is the source of that statement? Was it supposedly said by Aumeier in the mentioned "report"?

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:38 pm)

Hannover wrote:Rabbit:
The final sentence in your posted document UK NA WO208/4673 says that Sporrenberg
was aware that gas chambers existed and that mass exterminations were carried out there.
What is the source of that statement? Was it supposedly said by Aumeier in the mentioned "report"?

Thanks, Hannover



That document is from a report on the interrogation of Sporrenberg which occurred on March 26, 1946. It doesn't feature any quotes from Sporrenberg, it just summarises what he said. So, presumably, Sporrenberg told his interrogators that despite being assured by Florstedt that Majdanek had no homicidal gas chambers, and being shown the delousing facilities which might be the source of the confusion, Sporrenberg knew, somehow, that homicidal gas chambers existed at Majdanek.

The reference to Aumeier's interrogation report is just conjecture by the report's authors. Because Aumeier's cited interrogation report states:

the word 'disinfection' was written on the outside of the gas-chamber.


then the "baggage room and delousing arrangements" shown to Sporrenerg by Florstedt must have been homicidal gas chambers too!



It should be noted that although Sporrenberg insisted he was as innocent as a child unborn, he didn't completely deny that gassings occurred. He claimed to have visited Sobibor twice. On the first occasion he was refused entry! On the second occasion it was following the uprising, and he stated that he saw there "a heap of stone rubble" which had previously been the gas chambers.
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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby ginger » 4 years 8 months ago (Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:22 pm)

to BlackRabbit - If the Germans destroyed the kremas, their actions could be evidence of a “guilty mind”. Were they trying to destroy evidence of their sinister plan to exterminate the Jews as the Holocaust Industry contends? I wonder why they destroyed the kremas. I could not enable the subtitles on the video clip.

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby Turpitz » 4 years 8 months ago (Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:48 pm)

Yeager was put straight by Carlo Mattogno about the destruction of the crematoria by the Germans (he found two docs in Moscow about it—see above link), so she's given up on her theory the Soviets did it.


And who would ever doubt Communist documents? The chances of any of them having been forged is simply ridiculous, unheard of.

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Re: Vincent Reynouard: Why the Germans dynamited the Cremato

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 4 years 8 months ago (Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:38 pm)

Turpitz wrote:
Yeager was put straight by Carlo Mattogno about the destruction of the crematoria by the Germans (he found two docs in Moscow about it—see above link), so she's given up on her theory the Soviets did it.


And who would ever doubt Communist documents? The chances of any of them having been forged is simply ridiculous, unheard of.


Unfortunately for you, and your entry-level sarcasm, these aren't communist documents but German ones; ones which were discovered by the world's foremost revisionist in the mid-90s.
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