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Re: Nazi confessions

Postby Hektor » 4 years 6 months ago (Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:01 pm)

Kingfisher wrote:..
Hoess was in the hands of these people, some of the most brutal torturers in recent history. Furthermore, more than half of the senior staff were Jews. Are you seriously suggesting we should take at face value claims in a book, allegedly by him and published 11 years after his death, that he was not tortured?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Public_Security_%28Poland%29

Wasn't the Hoess book written with an erasable pencil, too?

Concerning Communist secret police forces I don't think there is any doubt that their reputation for torture was quite justified

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Add to that that the Poles/Jews were murdering Germans in Eastern Germany at that stage en masse as well. This just gives some indication about the public climate present at the time does also suggest the kind of behavior one may expect from members of the secret police in Poland.

Interestingly about one third of the secret Police personnel of the secret police was actually Jewish.

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Re: Nazi confessions

Postby LazaB » 4 years 6 months ago (Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:42 pm)

Kingfisher wrote:
LazarB wrote:Why are you still giving me links about the British torturers of Hoess, he didnt give his confession then, there is no evidence that he was tortured in Poland while he gave his confession and wrote his memoirs ?

Hoess was in the hands of these people, some of the most brutal torturers in recent history. Furthermore, more than half of the senior staff were Jews. Are you seriously suggesting we should take at face value claims in a book, allegedly by him and published 11 years after his death, that he was not tortured?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Public_Security_%28Poland%29


There is no evidence that he was tortured, you can believe whatever you want. :)

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Re: Nazi confessions

Postby hermod » 4 years 6 months ago (Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:57 pm)

LazaB wrote:There is no evidence that he was tortured, you can believe whatever you want. :)


A Holocaust believer who is disturbed by a lack of evidence. Hilarious... :lol:

LazaB, in your opinion, did America used germ warfare in Korea?
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Re: Nazi confessions

Postby Kingfisher » 4 years 6 months ago (Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:27 pm)

LazaB wrote:There is no evidence that he was tortured, you can believe whatever you want. :)

Is there any evidence that he wasn't tortured while in the hands of these known torturers? I didn't say I believed anything. I just made an observation based on circumstances, personalities and probabilities. But you can believe whatever you want :D

(Note, however, that even if Hoess wasn't tortured that doesn't make what he wrote true. Compliance can be obtained without torture, as has been illustrated above, and we don't even know if the document was genuine.)

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Re: Nazi confessions

Postby Moderator » 4 years 6 months ago (Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:38 am)

Far too many topics in one thread. Let's break this out into separate threads for clarity. Thanks.
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