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Sylvia Stolz "The Reality of Freedom of Expression" Uncut

Postby Kladderadatsch » 4 years 4 months ago (Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 pm)

After Stolz's conviction back in February (Prosecutors Call for 3 years 3 months for Sylvia Stolz), I immediately had the idea of finally translating the full 2012 AZK speech for my YouTube channel, if only as a gesture of solidarity and defiance.

As it turns out, however, someone at the subtitling site Amara had already gone and done it. So while I pitched in with a bit of editing over the past two weeks, the translation on the whole here is not mine. Credit for that of course goes to the translator of the original 44-minute version from 2013, and my new friend from Amara. I won't name him here, but he's credited on the video itself.

It's a great speech, and if they're going to try to send Sylvia to jail for it, I'm going to do my part to make sure as many people hear it as possible. You can help too: spread it around!



From the description on YouTube:

On 24 November 2012, dissident German lawyer Sylvia Stolz appeared at the eighth annual meeting of the "Anti-Censorship Coalition" in Chur, Switzerland, where she presented a speech entitled "Speech Forbidden, Evidence Forbidden, Legal Defence Forbidden: The Reality of Freedom of Expression" (Sprechverbot, Beweisverbot, Verteidigungsverbot: Die Wirklichkeit der Meinungsfreiheit). This video is a recording of that speech, complete and uncut. Previous subtitled versions circulating online as the "Full Speech" have actually included less than half of Stolz's presentation. This version gratefully incorporates much of the subtitling of the earlier 44-minute version, but also revises that translation in places, in particular to bring out more clearly the legal issues that are at the heart of Stolz's argument. As such, this new version is not only more complete, but hopefully more legally accurate as well.

In the speech, Stolz discusses her experiences as a defence lawyer for so-called Holocaust deniers in Germany, and describes the Orwellian system of state-enforced repression there which denies defendants (and their lawyers!) the right to explain themselves under threat of additional charges for the "repeat offence" of expressing a forbidden idea, even in their own defence in a court of law. Stolz further relates how the subject of the Holocaust itself has never been clearly or adequately defined by the German courts through the normal channel of judicial findings-of-fact in precedent decisions. Instead, the courts have relied on the arbitrary doctrine that the facts of the Holocaust are "self-evident" and thus in no need of proof, despite the obvious objection that the arguments of the "deniers" themselves clearly demonstrate that those facts are indeed contestable and thus cannot be "self-evident" by definition.

In the face of such abuses and absurdities, other lawyers might throw up their hands and simply walk away: Sylvia Stolz has the courage to call injustice what it is, and take a stand. Her speech is an extraordinary document of our times, a deeply moving call "to think what is true, to feel what is beautiful, and to want what is good." Wherever you may fall along the ideological spectrum, if you believe in freedom of expression, this speech is a must.

And of course there's one last outrageous twist to the story. On 25 February 2015, the German legal system heaped shame upon itself once more by sentencing Sylvia Stolz to twenty months in prison for "racial incitation" on the basis of what she says in this video. So watch and listen carefully and ask yourself . . . who are the real "fascists" here?
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Postby Hektor » 4 years 4 months ago (Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:11 am)

Given that she uses lots of German legalese I can imagine that the translation wasn't easy.
Is there also a video were the subtitles have been carved in? Meaning they go with the video itself?

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Postby Dresden » 4 years 4 months ago (Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:52 am)

After watching the full version, I can see what was cut out of the 45 min. version, that is.....what seems to me, the most important parts.

The first ten minutes of Sylvia's speech was very powerful, and everything about 'Nazis' was cut out of the shorter version.

Is there a transcript available?
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Re: Sylvia Stolz "The Reality of Freedom of Expression" Uncu

Postby Hektor » 4 years 4 months ago (Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:47 am)

Steve F wrote:After watching the full version, I can see what was cut out of the 45 min. version, that is.....what seems to me, the most important parts.

The first ten minutes of Sylvia's speech was very powerful, and everything about 'Nazis' was cut out of the shorter version.

Is there a transcript available?
I guess the court got a full transcript :twisted: .

Sylvia's Speech deals with the legal acrobatics the regime in Germany uses against Revisionists.
The whole Holocaust thing is a side issue in the talk and she nowhere says that it isn't true. So no denial.
All she does is to touch upon the thin ice the whole Holocaust thing build its cards on.

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Re: Sylvia Stolz "The Reality of Freedom of Expression" Uncu

Postby Dresden » 4 years 4 months ago (Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:58 pm)

Hektor said:

"Sylvia's Speech deals with the legal acrobatics the regime in Germany uses against Revisionists.
The whole Holocaust thing is a side issue in the talk and she nowhere says that it isn't true. So no denial.
All she does is to touch upon the thin ice the whole Holocaust thing build its cards on"


That's right, Hektor.
I'm watching the video for the second time and I'm taking notes.
Nowhere in the video does Sylvia say the 'holocaust' didn't happen; they sentence Her to prison because they have the power to do so.....they don't need evidence.

To destroy Her convictions by imprisoning Her is still beyond their power; see my signature.
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Postby Dresden » 4 years 4 months ago (Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:06 pm)

Hektor said:

"I guess the court got a full transcript :twisted:

And can you imagine the mental anguish it causes them to read it?
It's like a mirror that reveals their ugliness and nakedness!
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Re: Sylvia Stolz "The Reality of Freedom of Expression" Uncu

Postby Dresden » 4 years 3 months ago (Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:27 pm)

Here is a new Sylvia Stolz video; it covers a lot of ground, such as: World War II, the Holohoax, Nuremberg, and the post-war period:

https://vimeo.com/122958881
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