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Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby A.N. Field » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat May 16, 2015 11:56 am)

Just watched the magnificent Ursula Haverbeck and she was reading from a fascinating book, Garrison and Commandant Orders which spelled out in great detail regulations for maintaining camps. It was apparently put out by The Institute for Contemporary History, but I'm not finding it.

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby Hektor » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat May 16, 2015 12:09 pm)

A.N. Field wrote:Just watched the magnificent Ursula Haverbeck and she was reading from a fascinating book, Garrison and Commandant Orders which spelled out in great detail regulations for maintaining camps. It was apparently put out by The Institute for Contemporary History, but I'm not finding it.



By "Garrison and Commandant Orders" Do you mean "Standort- and Kommandaturbefehle"?
Then excerpts can be found here:
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https://archive.org/details/Konzentrati ... 45Auszuege

It's quite interesting. it contains for example directives relating to:
- Kids from outside playing in the camp / an order to stop that for safety reasons
- Prohibition of prisoner abuse.
- Tips on nutrition and cooking food for prisoners.

The link leads to an excerpt the original publication should be far more detailed, but contains there commentary on the primary source, which may get boring.


P.S.: I think this can go straight "Holocaust Revisionism"

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby A.N. Field » 4 years 5 months ago (Sat May 16, 2015 12:26 pm)

Hektor, that looks like the one. Very happy to have even excerpts. I'll have to work on my German. Thank you.
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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby dr riesig » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 12:20 pm)

Hektor wrote:The link leads to an excerpt the original publication should be far more detailed, but contains there commentary on the primary source, which may get boring.


It is very dull book really. But often bureaucracy is not interesting even if concerning Auschwitz. Tells of course about the camp that orders and other things are routine-like. It was just as any camp.
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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby Hektor » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 2:53 pm)

dr riesig wrote:...

It is very dull book really. But often bureaucracy is not interesting even if concerning Auschwitz. Tells of course about the camp that orders and other things are routine-like. It was just as any camp.

Well, the original text of the orders are of interest to us. Even those in the excerpts are quite funny, when one considers the background of the Holocaust narrative.

So it's definitely worthwhile to have access to the text on the net. The IFZ priced it out of range for ordinary readers (~140 Euro). I guess they did do so on purpose.

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby georgesmiley » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 3:15 pm)

Its available on amazon.de

"This volume documents the internal instructions of the SS camp authorities at the guards at Auschwitz. The commands that are issued at the time as manifolded messages were preserved only in a few copies - in German, Polish and Russian archives - and were rarely observed by the research. In wealth of detail an impressive testimony of the "daily life" of the SS on the scene of mass destruction, they are also an important source for the history of the Holocaust."

translated by Bing Translator

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http://www.amazon.de/Darstellungen-Quellen-Geschichte-Auschwitz-Konzentrationslagers/dp/3598240309/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1431792585&sr=1-1&keywords=standort+und+kommandaturbefehle

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby Hannover » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 5:33 pm)

"This volume documents the internal instructions of the SS camp authorities at the guards at Auschwitz. The commands that are issued at the time as manifolded messages were preserved only in a few copies - in German, Polish and Russian archives - and were rarely observed by the research. In wealth of detail an impressive testimony of the "daily life" of the SS on the scene of mass destruction, they are also an important source for the history of the Holocaust."

'Scene of mass destruction', 'history of the Holocaust', 'and were rarely observed by the research'?
So, it contains nothing 'holocaust'-like, yet that nonsense description had to be added.

And the laughable "research" that says the instructions were rarely observed is the stuff that doesn't hold up to rational, scientific scrutiny.

The weaseling going on to deflect from obvious facts is becoming more & more blatant to everyone.
Reminds me of the aerial photos which show precisely what is NOT going on and we're told to 'move along, nothing to see here'.

If this volume contained anything whatsoever that could be used in support of the Big Lie, and it would IF the absurd 'holocaust' narrative was factual, we would be reading it 24/7.

Another cry for help from the court historians.

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby Occam's Razor » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 6:42 pm)

Hannover:
And the laughable "research" that says the instructions were rarely observed is the stuff that doesn't hold up to rational, scientific scrutiny.


This
The commands that are issued at the time as manifolded messages were preserved only in a few copies - in German, Polish and Russian archives - and were rarely observed by the research.

is an automatic Bing translation.

German original:
Der Band dokumentiert die internen Anweisungen der SS-Lagerleitung an die Wachmannschaften von Auschwitz. Die seinerzeit als hektographierte Mitteilungen ausgegebenen Befehle blieben nur in wenigen Exemplaren erhalten - verstreut in deutschen, polnischen und russischen Archiven - und wurden von der Forschung bisher kaum beachtet. In ihrem Detailreichtum ein eindrucksvolles Zeugnis vom "Alltag" der SS am Schauplatz der Massenvernichtung, sind sie darüber hinaus eine bedeutende Quelle für die Geschichtsschreibung des Holocaust.


Real translation (of the relevant part):
This volume documents the internal orders of the SS camp authorities [...]
and were only scarcely noticed by historians [actually: research = historiography] until now.


They don't claim that orders weren't observed. At least not in this introduction. (I don't know what they claim inside the book.)

If this volume contained anything whatsoever that could be used in support of the Big Lie, and it would IF the absurd 'holocaust' narrative was factual, we would be reading it 24/7.


Right. With absolute certainty. And the book was published over 15 years ago!

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby Hannover » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 7:40 pm)

Real translation (of the relevant part):
This volume documents the internal orders of the SS camp authorities [...]
and were only scarcely noticed by historians [actually: research = historiography] until now.

OR, thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Re: Garrison & Commandant Orders

Postby Hektor » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu May 21, 2015 10:53 pm)

Hannover is on the right track there. It's the court historians that rarely observed those documents. And the reason for this becomes quite clear, when reading the documents. They don't serve the dominating Holocaust narrative very well.

As I said above Trying to harmonize content of the orders with mass extermination center storyline, can make one laugh at times. Kind of an Emperor's new clothes experience.

Its available on amazon.de

And there it's 140 Euro as well. Time it gets published on the net for free. But we're working on it.


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