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'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Hannover » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:10 pm)

This is what passes for 'holocaust' proof; "the only photographic documentation of the entire extermination process at Auschwitz".

Indeed, there it is, photographic proof of 'gas chambers'. :lol:
We see a woman holding a child and that's it. There is an apparently intoxicated, shoeless man with pants gone missing, note officer and inmates watching him. The horror !!

This is their best shot at documenting the extermination process. A photo which indicates nothing of the sort, a photo that is merely captioned by some lying Zionist in the hopes of keeping the cash rolling in.

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photo caption:
From \"The Auschwitz Album\", the only photographic documentation of the entire extermination process at Auschwitz. An SS has just sent the woman with the infant to join those being sent to the crematoria; her hair is covered in the tradition of the Orthodox Jewish wife. A man is standing between the columns missing his pants and one shoe; this was a common occurrence in the overcrowded boxcars. On the left stand inmates in striped camp clothing. The main gate to Birkenau camp under which the trains pass is ar the rear left of the photograph.

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http://www.holocaustsurvivors.org/data. ... otos&ke=95

I suggest everyone see the site. They have other laughable photos that supposed to be ironclad proof of the impossible.
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It's no wonder that 'holocaust' Revisionism is rapidly growing.

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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Inquisitor » 3 years 2 months ago (Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:54 pm)

A man is standing between the columns missing his pants and one shoe; this was a common occurrence in the overcrowded boxcars.


It was "common" for people transported to (or through) the camps to arrive without trousers and one shoe missing? Good heavens, what all went on in those boxcars?


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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby borjastick » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:17 am)

But what is that smoke in the back ground? I have a plan of the camp and in that direction, in what appears to be outside the camp, there was nothing except perhaps a vegetable garden patch. Is that smoke more of the retouched version?
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Kingfisher » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:07 am)

borjastick wrote:But what is that smoke in the back ground? I have a plan of the camp and in that direction, in what appears to be outside the camp, there was nothing except perhaps a vegetable garden patch. Is that smoke more of the retouched version?


The railway line would be out there so it could be smoke from a steam locomotive.

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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby hermod » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:08 am)

Hannover wrote:Image

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From \"The Auschwitz Album\", the only photographic documentation of the entire extermination process at Auschwitz. An SS has just sent the woman with the infant to join those being sent to the crematoria; her hair is covered in the tradition of the Orthodox Jewish wife.


So we are supposed to believe that the side with old ladies and young children was the side allowed to live at Auschwitz as laborers and that the side with men was the side doomed to immediate extermination. Really? :shock:

I don't think that this woman was going to the other side. In my opinion, she was only opening the march for the group of women and children.
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Charles Traynor » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:24 am)

Elie Wiesel claims the Jews had sex in the boxcars. This would go a long way towards explaining why that scoundrel pictured above arrived at Auschwitz without his pants.

After two days of travel, thirst became intolerable, as did the heat. Freed from normal constraints, some of the young let go of their inhibitions and, under cover of darkness, caressed one another, without any thought of others, alone in the world. The others pretended not to notice.

Night, Elie Wiesel (2006 edition), p.23

I believe in the original version of Night Wiesel wrote that the orthodox Jews sodomized one another. This was toned down by using "caressed" in Marion Wiesel's 2006 translation. However, I don't have access to the original edition of Night so cannot confirm this is true. Can anyone here help out with the original quote?
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby borjastick » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:15 am)

Here's a few other explanations as to the next movement of the woman and baby -

She asked where her block was located
She wanted to feed her baby and the SS gent gave her directions
She saw her family members and was off to meet them
She asked where the ladies toilets were
She asked where the swimming pool was as she wanted to set her towel down early for the following day
She asked where the ticket office was so as to be able to buy a return ticket to Munich
She was on her way for a shower, the real type not one with fake gas
She had found the baby on the train and was off to the lost property office
She had spotted Dr Mengele, her hero, and was excitedly rushing to get an autograph

Maybe we can add more to this list...
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Breker » 3 years 2 months ago (Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:29 pm)

We think she's off to watch the SS bicycle races that are truly said to have been held in the mystical gas chambers.
Or perhaps she was preparing for a high jump over a nine feet fence where she will seize the guards weapons and smite them down, another "historical fact".
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 3 years 2 months ago (Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:21 am)

Not to mention that the provenance of the Auschwitz Album is a hard to believe story.

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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Moderator » 3 years 2 months ago (Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:27 am)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:Not to mention that the provenance of the Auschwitz Album is a hard to believe story.

What about that provenance? Please explain.
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 3 years 2 months ago (Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:42 am)

I don't think there's a revisionist that is going to be able to believe this laughable backstory:

Also remarkable is the story of its discovery. Lili Jacob (later Lili Jacob-Zelmanovic Meier) was selected for work at Auschwitz-Birkenau while the other members of her family were sent to the gas chambers. The Auschwitz camp was evacuated by the Nazis as the Soviet army approached. Jacob passed through various camps, finally arriving at the Dora concentration camp, where she was eventually liberated. Recovering from illness in a vacated barracks of the SS, Jacob found the album in a cupboard beside her bed. Inside, she found pictures of herself, her relatives, and others from her community. The coincidence was astounding, given that the Nordhausen-Dora camp was over 640 km (400 mi) away, and that over 1,100,000 people were killed at Auschwitz.
SOURCE: Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_Album

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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Inquisitor » 3 years 2 months ago (Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:57 am)

Recovering from illness in a vacated barracks of the SS, Jacob found the album in a cupboard beside her bed. Inside, she found pictures of herself, her relatives, and others from her community. The coincidence was astounding


"Astonishing" hardly scratches he surface of the alleged coincidence here!

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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Deitrich » 2 months 6 days ago (Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:10 am)

I have a question regarding the Auschwitz Album.

In his good paper "The Deportation of Hungarian Jews from May to July 1944
A preliminary account", published 2001, Carlo Mattogno makes great reference to the Auschwitz album supposedly showing..
(a) the prisoners NOT admitted to the camp (i.e. supposedly gassed) being led up from the train ramp AWAY from Crema 2 and 3 toward Crema 4 and 5- which had a demonstrably far less (fictional) capacity than the former and were frequently out of action anyhow- but which also was in the direction of the Central Sauna (for delousing)

He espouses that they also show them carrying their belongings- all in line with what one would expect if they were in transit waiting to board the outbound train. I have seen pictures of them carrying belongings captioned as "immediate death".

The problem is that none of the online versions of the Album I have found online provide any image or even page numbers at all!

His sources claim he uses this edition:
L'Album d'Auschwitz, Editions du Seuil, Paris 1983,

Which I cannot find any online record of existing let alone an online copy in order to verify the images he is talking about, or source them himself.

I did find reference to the existence of the 1981 Klarsfeld edition. The only online copies of Auschwitz album seem not to have page numbers or even correlate to any "edition".

If anybody knows where they might be available to view online, particularly the one Mattogno references^^ would be great. Thanks.

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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby HeiligeSturm » 2 months 6 days ago (Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:43 am)

The picture in the original post just tells that the lady was pointed to the direction of the women's barracks.
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Re: 'the only photo documentation of extermination process'

Postby Horhug » 2 months 5 days ago (Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:43 pm)

Hello Deitrich


Re: L'Album d'Auschwitz, Editions du Seuil, Paris 1983, Serge Klarsfeld

Cited as source for 3 photos in : The Deportation of Hungarian Jews from May to July 1944 A preliminary account By Carlo Mattogno

https://codoh.com/library/document/357/?lang=en

[17] L'Album d'Auschwitz, Editions du Seuil, Paris 1983, Photo No. 6, p. 51.

Hungarian Jews in the spring of 1944 at their arrival at the ramp in the KL Auschwitz-Birkenau. In the background are the chimneys of the crematoriums II and III – obviously without any smoke discharge [17]

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[38] L'Album d'Auschwitz, aaO. (Note 17), Photos 163 & 165, S. 185, 187.

"Unemployable" Hungarian Jews on the way to the ramp to an unknown place, with cooking pots and luggage. Employable prisoners on the other hand had to hand in all their possessions.[38]

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[45] L'Album d'Auschwitz, aaO. (Note 17).

The photographs in the Album d’Auschwitz, to which I will return later, show clearly, that also Hungarian Jews who were unable to work (disabled, old people and children) arrived. [45] Therefore employable as well as non-employable Jews were deported from Hungary.

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Éditions du Seuil is the French publishing house : http://www.seuil.com

There is a PDF here : http://collectifhistoirememoire.org/col ... CHWITZ.pdf

The photos are not numbered in that PDF but :

Re : Mattogno's [17] L'Album d'Auschwitz, Editions du Seuil, Paris 1983, Photo No. 6, p. 51.

Photo No. 6 can be seen on PDF page 8

and :

Re : Mattogno's [38] L'Album d'Auschwitz, aaO. (Note 17), Photos 163 & 165, S. 185, 187.

Photo No. 163 can be seen on PDF page 3

So far, I have not found Photo 165

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This is a useful PDF which describes it's provenance with references to news articles on it's discovery.

http://www.marctouitou.com/files/album148-ok.pdf

Where we read :

"L’histoire de l’Album d’Auschwitz et de ses reproductions est complexe."

"The history of the Auschwitz Album and its reproductions is complex ..."

You are aware that Pressac published many of the photos :

Google site search of historiography-project.com for : L’Album D’Auschwitz

L’Album D’Auschwitz site:historiography-project.com

https://www.google.com/search?q=L%E2%80 ... 20&bih=898


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