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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Tomt » 3 years 8 months ago (Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:35 am)

They are afraid of not finding anything. All you would have to do is take a few core samples and game over. If you have most of the public duped why would you risk anything. They were able to find anastasia and did a dna test on her and everything but can't positively identify a million person mass grave?

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Esarh » 3 years 7 months ago (Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:48 pm)

How deep the rabbit hole is, as the zio-narrative is tied to the whole post ww2 world order.

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby NLH » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:06 am)

It was simply that in much of Europe you can be jailed for asking a question, that it is illegal. That to me said everything, and got me looking into it in the first place. If it wasn't for that, i may not have looked into it at all. To me they fumbled the ball on that one, and shot themselves in the foot.
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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Thames Darwin » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:14 pm)

NLH wrote:It was simply that in much of Europe you can be jailed for asking a question, that it is illegal. That to me said everything, and got me looking into it in the first place. If it wasn't for that, i may not have looked into it at all. To me they fumbled the ball on that one, and shot themselves in the foot.


So two questions:

(1) What question(s) is/are it illegal to ask?
(2) Where is it illegal to ask it/them?

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby NLH » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:13 pm)

Thames Darwin wrote:
NLH wrote:It was simply that in much of Europe you can be jailed for asking a question, that it is illegal. That to me said everything, and got me looking into it in the first place. If it wasn't for that, i may not have looked into it at all. To me they fumbled the ball on that one, and shot themselves in the foot.


So two questions:

(1) What question(s) is/are it illegal to ask?
(2) Where is it illegal to ask it/them?


Ok, I apologise for my poorly written comment.

If I was to start asking questions, came to the conclusion that the Holocaust didn't happen the way we are force fed it, that homicidal gas chambers didn't exist, and started to make such statements in many European countries and even decided to publish such comments or make public statements to that effect, then it would apply. Having said that, the end result is the same - it is illegal and you can be fined and imprisoned. To me this is a ball fumble of the most dastardly kind and one that gives credence to the revisionist view. It is the one that got me interested in the debate in the first place. To me truths don't need laws to uphold them.
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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Hannover » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:14 pm)

Thames Darwin says:
So two questions:

(1) What question(s) is/are it illegal to ask?
(2) Where is it illegal to ask it/them?

1. Why is there no proof for the '6M & gas chambers'? Why are there no mass graves as alleged excavated, verified, and shown?
Indeed those questions will certainly get one arrested in much of anti free speech Europe.

2. All the countries which have Orwellian laws against scrutinizing the impossible 'holocaust' storyline, that's where.

NLH is quite correct.

That was easy.

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The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

The tide is turning.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby borjastick » 3 years 7 months ago (Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:58 am)

Thames Darwin wrote:
NLH wrote:It was simply that in much of Europe you can be jailed for asking a question, that it is illegal. That to me said everything, and got me looking into it in the first place. If it wasn't for that, i may not have looked into it at all. To me they fumbled the ball on that one, and shot themselves in the foot.


So two questions:

(1) What question(s) is/are it illegal to ask?
(2) Where is it illegal to ask it/them?


The two main places to avoid any public discussion or doubt, let alone outright opposition to the holocaust claims, are Germany and France.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Dresden » 3 years 7 months ago (Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:54 pm)

borjastick said:

"The two main places to avoid any public discussion or doubt, let alone outright opposition to the holocaust claims, are Germany and France"

Don't forget Austria.....probably the worst.

"What questions are illegal to ask?"

1. If the 'holocaust' happened as alleged.....why is there no mention of "Auschwitz", "Holocaust" or "gas chambers" in Eisenhower's 550 page "Crusade in Europe", even though Eisenhower said in a letter to his wife:

"God, I hate the Germans!"

2. If the 'holocaust' happened as alleged.....why is there no mention whatsoever of "Auschwitz", "Holocaust", "gas chambers" or "Jews" in Charles de Gaulle's over 2,000 page "The Complete War Memoires"?

3. If the 'holocaust' happened as alleged.....why is there no mention of "Auschwitz", "Holocaust" or "gas chambers" in Churchill's massive 4,500 page "The Second World War", even though Churchill was one of the greatest enemies of Germany, Hitler and the Nazis?

If you were to ask any one of these questions in public in Germany or Austria, with a police officer nearby, you would be immediately arrested.
Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Dresden » 3 years 7 months ago (Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:52 pm)

Thames Darwin asked:

"What question(s) is/are it illegal to ask?"

The following questions asked in public will get you immediately arrested in many "European" countries:

Why did Elie Wiesel and countless other Jews survive the Holocaust if it was the intention of the Third Reich to eliminate every Jew they got their hands on?

How could the 'holocaust' be true if there were over a million "holocaust survivors" in 2004, sixty years after the war?
Wouldn't there have been six or seven million "survivors" in 1945?

If Auschwitz was an extermination camp, why was there a Theatre, a Cinema, a swimming pool, a library, a dental clinic, a huge hospital, a soccer field, a maternity ward, a kindergarten, camp money, a sauna, delousing facilities and countless other amenities?

Why after sixty years have historians been unable to come up with a single German document that points to a holocaust? Should we believe the likes of Raul Hilberg that in the place of written orders there was an "incredible meeting of the minds" by the literally tens of thousands of people who would have had to coordinate their actions in order to carry out an undertaking of this magnitude.

How come it is still insisted upon that six million Jews were killed when the official Jewish death toll at Auschwitz, the flagship of the Holocaust gulag, has been reduced from an immediate post war figure of four million, to a figure of somewhat less than one million?

Is 6,000,000 minus 3,000,000 really 6,000,000?

How could there have been huge "burning pits" at Auschwitz when the water table was less than a meter below the surface?.....wouldn't the "pits" have been full of water?


Questions that are illegal to ask in several "nations" of "Europe" would fill volumes.
Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby skeptical » 3 years 7 months ago (Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:37 am)

When I was about 15 (mid seventies) we covered the Holocaust in school, it was nothing like these days where the Holocaust has grown to include elementary, middle school and high school programming, but more of a subject touched for a moment during freshman history class.
I was struck, not so much by the size of the death tolls, but more so by the roundness of the numbers.
There was something about it which just didn't ring true so I raised my hand and asked how the numbers were compiled.
The teacher explained that the numbers were exact because the Germans were "excellent record keepers so the exact number was known..."
I took that at face value and went on with puberty but then, about a decade later, I came across some article which described how the victims were hurried off to the gas chambers with no record being formed...
The cognitive dissonance which those contrasting versions of events caused was the beginning of doubt, the story simply wasn't straight and nobody seemed able to straighten it out. In fact, the more I looked the less reliable the official rendition of events seemed.
Add to that the savage manner in which anybody who questioned the official line was dealt with and I was soon looking behind the curtain at every opportunity.
I broached the subject with friends, family and acquaintances, it became clear that the whole tapestry was supported, not by facts and figures but by fear.
People, in every walk of life, were terrified of confronting the powerful, dangerous, folks who profited most from keeping the holocaust view of history exactly as it stood.
Now I realize that a wayward word could endanger my home, my business, my family, so I keep my thoughts to myself.
In that way this, rigorously enforced yet jilted, view of history corrupts our society, we are subjugated.
It is as if we live in the fairytale 'the emperor's new clothes' and we have become the terrified citizens.

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby bookingman » 3 years 7 months ago (Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:17 am)

Seems that for most people it's the fact that it's illegal in many countries. The other day I was talking to this muslim who hates jews something fierce, he was going on and on and on about how the international jewish bankers control the world, 12 families, Israel in charge, you know the whole thing. So I asked him if he knew that it's illegal to deny the holocaust in several countries. His eyes bulged "Really? Oh ok, but that really happened though". You'd think these type of folks would be aware of the holohoax.

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Inquisitor » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:31 am)

bookingman wrote:Seems that for most people it's the fact that it's illegal in many countries. The other day I was talking to this muslim who hates jews something fierce, he was going on and on and on about how the international jewish bankers control the world, 12 families, Israel in charge, you know the whole thing. So I asked him if he knew that it's illegal to deny the holocaust in several countries. His eyes bulged "Really? Oh ok, but that really happened though". You'd think these type of folks would be aware of the holohoax.


I've witnessed this same phenomenon with various openly pro-White/racialist type folks, who are sometimes highly critical of Jewish-Supremacist activities, yet still for all intents and purposes accept that much of the official "holocaust" story is true, if perhaps somewhat exaggerated in spots. I think for one to really be able to dispense with the official tale on a meaningful level, it takes not only a healthy sense of skepticism, but both the desire and will to actually look into the matter, study, read, view, and so on.

There's also a deeper irony at work here. We frequently hear Revisionism condemned and/or dismissed as being strictly motivated by anti-Semitism and such - yet most all of us here know that various Revisionists exhibit no such tendencies whatever. At the same time, there are plenty of folks, otherwise very critical of Jews or Jewish/Israeli actions, etc., who still basically buy the official "holocaust" narrative as offered. What a tangled web indeed.

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Arsènelupin » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:54 pm)

The biggest surprise :
- discovering Faurisson, to see that a lot of "proofs" were so weak, like this J. P. Kremer's diary, speaking about some "Sonderaktion(s)" but never about "Bagassung(s)", for exemple. Or
- watching One Third of the Holocaust, that the so called holocaust was a pyramide lead on his top, in other words on a few "eyewitnesses" and a lot of gossips.

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Dresden » 3 years 7 months ago (Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:54 pm)

Arsènelupin wrote:The biggest surprise :
- discovering Faurisson, to see that a lot of "proofs" were so weak, like this J. P. Kremer's diary, speaking about some "Sonderaktion(s)" but never about "Bagassung(s)", for exemple. Or
- watching One Third of the Holocaust, that the so called holocaust was a pyramide lead on his top, in other words on a few "eyewitnesses" and a lot of gossips.


Wow!.....those are the two strongest "arguments" against Revisionism I've ever seen.

Thank you for the laughs, Arsènelupin! :lol:
Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith

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Re: The Biggest Surprise When You Investigated The Holocaust?

Postby Morrison » 3 years 7 months ago (Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:27 pm)

The biggest surprises for me were:
- Discovering Gerdes, to see that only 4 of the 75 alleged graves at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka have actually been proven to contain human remains, and in total, those 4 graves only contain 10 bodies, and those 4 graves disprove the theory of mass cremation at those camps.
- Finding out that David Irving is not a revisionist but is a untrustworthy pathetic fraud of a person and historian.
- Seeing the number 6 show up time after time, especially when I was trying to figure out what the average amount of bodies would be in each of the 75 alleged graves of Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka. Two million divided by 75 is: 26666.66666666666666666666...
- The promoters and defenders of the holohoax don't dare engage in an open and honest debate.
- How afraid people are of the truth.


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