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Most laughable claims

Postby bookingman » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:28 am)

Are there some claims that makes you almost laugh and wonder how they seriously tried to pass that on as truth?

Mine is when they claim that the nazi's developed a perfect system to kill people in the gas chambers. They couldn't have it more backwards. Doors opening into the gas chamber, the doors themselves not being nearly safe and strong enough. Putting the crematoriums at a different floor than the gas chambers so having a handful of officers allegedly dragging and lifting thousands of bodies up to that part of the building. The ovens clearly being meant for only 1 corpse at a time, the chimneys being far too ineffecient etc. Everything points to this building being the least suitable for this type of killing operation even though the Germans were known for efficiency. They seriously claim that this is the best that the nazi's could come up with? LOL.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Werd » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:28 am)

There are holocaust handbooks full of debunking ridiculous claims. It is very wise to zero in on the alleged weapon of the crime itself. A technical argument is always the strongest way to go whether it be a chemical analysis of the walls inside the alleged gas chambers and of the properties of zyklon B itself

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or of the ovens that were supposed to have disposed of X amount of bodies in Auschwitz.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Hannover » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:42 am)

The entire 'holocaust' storyline is the most stupid nonsense one can imagine. Here I've zeroed in on the 'gassings at Auschwitz' lie.

Hannover wrote:There is so much wrong and so much that is simply impossible about the 'holocaust' storyline that it's difficult to choose just one.

- The fact that not a single verifiable excavation of the alleged enormous mass graves and it's alleged contents of Jew corpses can be shown is a real contender.
- The doctored / faked photos, complete with altered aerial photos, are right up there.
On & on it goes.

However, the entire 'gas chambers', Zyklon-B gassing process alleged at Auschwitz / Birkenau works for me as a single example. The claimed 'facts' about it simply refute themselves. That's why I always say that debunking the 'holocaust' storyline is just too easy. The absurd 'shoah' narrative is like a 'cry for help', it's really that ridiculous.

The following is from one of my previous posts.

Hannover wrote:Below I have posted what the 'holocaust' storyline claims about the alleged gassings at Auschwitz/Birkenau.
I have commented as the story moves along, in essence the claims are simply impossible.

Note that I have also added this model of what the inside of one of the 'gas chambers' is claimed to have looked like at end of an alleged gassing (up to 2000 per batch), an analysis of this model follows my text below.

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The two main 'gas chambers at Auschwitz / Birkenau were exactly the same, supposedly in Kremas II & III. So let's play along with the storyline. Up to 2000 Jews were supposedly gassed until dead, then they were supposedly taken via an elevator to the crematorium directly above.

Fact: as seen in the plans, this elevator is hand drawn, and is only 4 ft X 9 ft. How in the world could 2000 Jews have been loaded onto a 4 ft x 9 ft. hand drawn elevator in just a few minutes? Remember, the storyline says that the gassings and resultant cremations were non-stop for much of the period in question.

We supposedly have another batch of 2000 Jews waiting outside, supposedly being tricked into thinking they were about to receive showers. It would have been impossible to disentangle all the supposedly dead Jews and load 2000 of them onto to this postage stamp of an elevator, hoist them by hand up to the crematory 'ovens' in just minutes.
And this repeated process meant that the crematory ovens above would not have been capable of cremating them in the time alleged, which meant a build-up, a backlog occurred.
The storyline even states that the backlog of the to-be-cremated-gassed-Jews required stacking them outside. Once again, the alleged 2000 Jews were outside in full view of this laughable backlog claim, but supposedly they still thought they were getting 'showers'. Of course, timely aerial reconnaissance photos show nothing of the kind.

Furthermore, while the Jews were waiting outside, the storyline says that a SS man with a gas mask climbed upon the roof of the Kremas (only maybe 18 inches, or close to it, above the ground, Kremas II & III were largely underground) and dropped Zyklon-B granules into a container and lowered it down into the 'holes' in the roof, into the morgues which were supposedly converted into a gas chamber. The waiting 2000 Jews would have a clear view of the man on the roof's activity, yet these 2000 Jews were supposedly not concerned and still thought they were going to get innocent showers. The storyline is utterly ridiculous.

We're not done.

The Zyklon-B pesticide granules took/take hours to complete the outgassing of their cyanide load. The storyline says that this same SS man on the roof, supposedly wearing a highly visible gas mask, withdrew the container up from the 'gas chambers' in just minutes. Remember, the Zyklon-B pesticide granules were allegedly dumped and lowered into the 'gas chambers'. And since we know that the Zyklon-B pesticide would have taken hours to finish releasing it's cyanide load we have a situation where anyone in the entire area would have been vulnerable to gassing.
Yes, the storyline also says that there were vents which were used to remove the gas, but then we are still in a situation where the entire area is vulnerable to cyanide. Not to mention that this certainly would have been noticed by the alleged waiting 2000 Jews. And where does this SS man in a gas mask put the outgassing Zyklon-B pesticide granules which he has supposedly withdrawn, which would be releasing cyanide for hours?

The entire, bizarre story is unsustainable with even the slightest scrutiny. It's no wonder why Jewish supremacists trot out senile, lying 'survivors' (who wouldn't have even survived if the tall tales were true) for emotional impact. No wonder that there are Thought Crime laws against examining this absurd process. 'House of cards' is an understatement.


As for it being easy so easy to ventilate and move corpses, I also suggest:

'ONE PICTURE = 1000 WORDS'
viewtopic.php?t=2651
ASMarques wrote:*** THE GREAT GAS CHAMBER TRAFFIC JAM ***

This would be the one picture I would choose for a crash-course in Holocaust awareness for the intelligent young, lest they forget. Much better than collecting millions of buttons, soda tabs etc.


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This is the scale model of Krema II in the Auschwitz Museum, apparently placed behind a glass protection in order to prevent the small dolls being stolen by visitors.

Key to the image:

0 - Reflection of the window on the opposite side of the room.

1 - Underground gallery where many hundreds of victims at a time got undressed for the fake showers in room number 2. According to some Holocaust scholars, this gallery is also supposed to have had fake showers installed in it, just to confuse the undressing victims.

2 - Underground gas chamber, called simply "morgue" or "mortuary cellar" in all German documents and blueprints, in order to fool the future generations of scholars looking for the mysteriously vanished Jewish race. This is where many hundreds of victims were gassed at a time, in a round-the-clock mass murder industrial process by Zyklon B, the same product used to preserve human lives by killing lice (unless the witnesses are lying or very, very confused).

3 - Small elevator bringing daily many thousands of gassed corpses from the underground chamber to the crematories at ground level. Known to the fun-loving SS as "The Little Elevator that Could".

4 - Crematory ovens where many thousands of corpses a day were instantly vaporized, without even having to wait for some heat to dissipate before each door opening, contrary to the ovens in your run-of-the-mill crematory. Alas, the technology of the ovens was one of the best kept secrets in the Reich (unless they were ordinary ovens operated by miracle) and no one has been able to duplicate it.

5 - The famous chimneys, producing lots of smoke, contrary to the chimneys on your run-of-the-mill crematory that produce none. This is attributed to the twisted minds of the German guards who attempted to hide their crimes from the curious in the neighbourhood by using dense curtains of artificial smoke.

Now that you know which room is which, don't let anyone distract your gaze away from the image. Picture the gold-mining brigades, struggling through the corpse-scape, trying not to absorb any cyanide residues trapped among the still palpitating bodies, in order to perform their difficult tasks, such as inspecting body orifices, pulling teeth off, smoking cigarettes and eating sandwiches (according to the Höss testimony).

Then comes the most important part. Wait for a few seconds, take a deep breath, and picture the enormous round-the-clock traffic jam at point number 3, during the process of emptying the gas chamber of bodies, through the small elevator room, with or without (as you prefer) the folks next door waiting, soap in hand, for their shower.

Finally, ask your teacher to point the place, any place, where all those typhus dead were deposited while the live folks were being gassed in the gas chamber the Germans called "a morgue".

If you get a satisfactory answer, please let me know.
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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby bookingman » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:42 pm)

Thanks Hannover, do you have a larger version of that photo?

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Hektor » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:57 pm)

The "Claims Conference, yes they got something in that line, has some cute claims:
http://www.claimscon.org/about/history/ ... m-victims/
Me and a Jewish American (a watchmaker, passport from the USA) were subjected to medical experiments. SS German Shepherd dogs, belonging to the commander of the SS Obersturmfuehrer Rosenbaum, with a special poison on their teeth … we had to run [and] the dogs had to chase us. Afterwards they examined our wounds, the blood. A doctor … ripped the flesh of my legs and examined it. After some time I was able to escape. First to a peasant in a village—afterwards to friends of mine in Krakow. There my wounded legs started healing. As a result of this experiment (the dog bite and the poison) my whole left foot was ripped apart and during the course of the years I developed wounds and cancer. During August 1962 and November 1962 I was operated [on] in the cancer institute and was treated in Gliwice in Poland.
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The SS officer [who] was probably a doctor, dressed in white robe, shoved an iron stick, which had a handle on its end, right into my rectum. He then turned the stick and caused an involuntary ejaculation of sperm. A female SS officer [who] worked with the other officer held two pieces of glass underneath my genitals in order to collect a sample of my sperm for the lab. They then made me stand up on a special machine that gave electric waves to both sides of my genitals until again a sperm was ejaculated.


Don't forget the spanking machines
M. DUBOST: What was the nature of the punishments?

NNE. VAILLANT-COUTURIER: Bodily ill-treatment in particular. One of the most usual punishments was 50 blows with a stick on the loins. They were administered with a machine which I saw, a swinging apparatus manipulated by an SS. There were also endless roll calls day and night, or gymnastics; flat on the belly, get up, lie down, up, down, for hours, and anyone who fell was beaten unmercifully and taken to Block 25.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/01-28-46.asp



But search the records, there is endless more stuff easy to spot.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Lysander_Spooner » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:28 pm)

Irene Zissblat's (sp?) yarn that she would eat her diamonds every evening and then excrete them in the morning. She says she had to fish the diamonds out of her excrement every morning and then hide them on her person during the day. How can anyone actually believe that? How?

One that made me laugh out loud, uncontrollably, was the claim that the Germans built a village in Poland, filled it full of jews, and then detonated an atomic bomb on it. You know, just to test the weapon. I think that piece of nonsense is in the Nuremberg trial records.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Hannover » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:51 pm)

bookingman wrote:Thanks Hannover, do you have a larger version of that photo?
Yes, here you go. Click to enlarge.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby k0nsl » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:48 pm)

There are so many to pick from that it would be almost impossible to decide just one item. But what I always tell everyone is: if you find a statement by a so-called 'survivor' or 'eyewitness', create a video and explain the absurdity, or at least re-tell it in such a way that people will understand just how laughable it is!

One example I found rather laughable and 'intuitive' is the following story:
Sausages, a swimsuit, and a loaded gun / Kort / Treblinka

One other example I always cringe at is the one about "the bear, the eagle and the Jew":


:lol:

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Dresden » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:36 pm)

Lysander_Spooner already mentioned Irene "The Gobbler" Zisblatt, but I would add two other "classics":

Elie Wiesel's "Geysers of blood" and Filip Müller's "Jumping buckets of flesh.

"After their execution the chosen bodies were laid on a table. The doctors proceeded to cut pieces of still warm flesh from thighs and calves and threw them into waiting receptacles. The muscles of those who had been shot were still working and contracting, making the bucket jump about"

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Dresden » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:47 pm)

K0nsl mentioned "The Eagle and the Bear"

I always wondered why the bear didn't eat the eagle, but the answer to that question is.....because that's not how the fairy tale goes.

The people who made up these stories were insane.

Oh, and don't forget about the "Pedal-driven Brain-bashing Machine".
Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby bookingman » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:53 pm)

The people who made up these stories were insane.


Absolutely, especially the ones with the sexual type of stories. Somebody here made a very accurate post about how those people are projecting their own sick sexual fantasies into these stories, and that when the stories get beyond wild and laughable it's because they were turning themselves on and started to lose self-control to keep up the act.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Hannover » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:34 pm)

bookingman wrote:
The people who made up these stories were insane.


Absolutely, especially the ones with the sexual type of stories. Somebody here made a very accurate post about how those people are projecting their own sick sexual fantasies into these stories, and that when the stories get beyond wild and laughable it's because they were turning themselves on and started to lose self-control to keep up the act.
Here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9827&p=74561&hilit=hannover+poo+poo#p74561
I said:
Notice how often neurotic racist Jews tell perverse stories of pee-pee, poo-poo, & pornographic sexual tales. This is all about is them, the tellers of the stories and their inclination for perversity. They are projecting their own sleazy fantasies onto others. This has nothing to do with Mengele or the 'Nazis'.
Here for an overview of their sick poop obsession in their own words:
'The Fecal Fixation of the Chosen Ones'
http://theendofzion.com/the-fecal-fixat ... osen-ones/

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The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Hektor » 4 years 4 months ago (Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:05 pm)

Steve F wrote:Lysander_Spooner already mentioned Irene "The Gobbler" Zisblatt, but I would add two other "classics":

Elie Wiesel's "Geysers of blood" and Filip Müller's "Jumping buckets of flesh.

"After their execution the chosen bodies were laid on a table. The doctors proceeded to cut pieces of still warm flesh from thighs and calves and threw them into waiting receptacles. The muscles of those who had been shot were still working and contracting, making the bucket jump about"

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"Adolf Eichmann" competes with that as originator of the Blood Fountain claim (among other nonsense):
https://archive.org/details/Blutfontaen ... nJerusalem
But I guess this "Eichmann" they had in Jerusalem read that in one of Wiesels books/texts. Not sure exactly which one that is.

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Re: Most laughable claims

Postby Inquisitor » 4 years 4 months ago (Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:10 am)

Lysander_Spooner wrote:Irene Zissblat's (sp?) yarn that she would eat her diamonds every evening and then excrete them in the morning. She says she had to fish the diamonds out of her excrement every morning and then hide them on her person during the day. How can anyone actually believe that? How?


Zisblatt's poop-diamonds, while probably the most memorable, are but the tip of her iceberg of nonsense! Here's a bunch of stories, one more dubious than the next!



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