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Student trustee skeptical about "Holocaust" / a rapidly growing trend

Postby Hannover » 4 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:51 pm)

Questioning the 'holocaust' is certainly a growing trend, as expected.

Here we have a college student trustee who is skeptical of the propaganda. Of course it's not difficult for an intelligent person to find the marketed 'holocaust' narrative questionable at the very least. Fraudulent is a better descriptor.

You just gotta love it when someone who makes major money from the scam speaks up:
Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher with the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization in Los Angeles, said that the Holocaust is “the most documented crime in history.”

“The people on trial at Nuremberg answered that they were just following orders. They never said it never happened because it obviously did,” said Breitbart. “It’s not scholarship, it’s really pseudo scholarship. Essentially, what they’re saying is that Jews and their supporters are liars.”

Breitbart said that casting doubt on the historicity of the Holocaust was “insulting.”

“When you trivialize the suffering of others, it’s like killing the victim a second time,” he said.
- Here's a guy who makes money from the scam, meaning he is not an unbiased observer. It's the wolves guarding the chicken coop.
- Curious that they cannot show anyone those 'documents'.
- Just following orders? Orders to do what? Show us these orders.
- It's so "obvious" yet no documents can be shown, no orders, no human remains as alleged can be shown, the alleged gas chambers were scientifically impossible, in fact the '6M Jews, 5M others' are complete impossible fabrications. This Breitbart shyster is all bluff.
- And yes, they are liars, simple as that.
- We're more than glad to "insult" you. You have defamed Germans, gentiles, and the West with your nonsense far too long.
- "It’s like killing the victim a second time"? No it's not, utter BS. Stop making up self serving, attempted debate-silencing crap. 6M Jews and 5M others did not die and he has no proof whatsoever that they did.
- It's always interesting to see how Jews desire 6M Jews to have been killed. Very weird. Revisionists bring them good news, Revisionists are the good guys.

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- Hannover

http://www.arcurrent.com/news/2015/09/1 ... holocaust/

Student trustee ‘skeptical’ about Holocaust

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Cameron Weaver speaks at the candidate forums during the student elections of the spring 2015 semester. Weaver, who was elected as Los Rios student trustee, recently cast doubt on the historical account of the Holocaust and said that being a conspiracy theorist is "a title I wear proudly."

September 18, 2015

By Barbara Harvey and John Ferrannini

Los Rios Student Trustee Cameron Weaver cast doubt on the historical accounts of the Holocaust and the Sept. 11 attacks and discussed his views on antidepressants and high-profile shooters during a 55-minute sit down interview with The Current where he said that being a conspiracy theorist was “a title I wear proudly.”

Weaver said that he doesn’t know if the Holocaust happened.

“I’m definitely not going to go out and venture and say anything like ‘Oh, Holocaust didn’t happen.’ There are tons of people that make that argument,” said Weaver. “From a really unbiased perspective, I completely disagree, but I also completely agree. What I mean when I say both is that I don’t know the answer.”

Weaver compared knowing the facts of the Holocaust to sports fans discussing a football game.

“It’s unfair of me to sit there and say ‘Oh, well because I was told something my whole life, I know this to be the truth and you are incorrect.’ People do that everyday about everything,” said Weaver. “We don’t even have to use Jewish people as an example. Even the smallest detail: ‘Hey, 49ers sucked this game, I watched it, it’s a fact.’ Other person’s like, ‘Nah dude, they rocked, they did great.’ Neither side is right or wrong because neither side can really make that connotation.”

Weaver specifically cast doubt on the figure that 6 million Jews died during the Holocaust, saying that newspapers had been reporting on genocides against the Jews since 1915.

“I don’t have the physical copies of those newspapers. Is it possible that there were some changes to those newspapers? It’s possible,” said Weaver. “But in these newspapers, there was a very conflicting thing I noticed: there was continual reporting that 6 million Jewish people were facing a lot of — they were facing starvation, being evicted from their homes, over in Russia, and then three years later it changed to Ukrainia (sic).

“There are people that are unfortunately being pillaged and being killed and it’s terrible, but where’s the updated statistic?”

If anybody would consider me a ‘conspiracy theorist’ because I entertain looking at the outside aspects of things that affect our country, that’s a title I wear proudly. I have no shame in that.
–Cameron Weaver, Los Rios student trustee

Weaver, who was the Associated Student Body Student Senate director of public relations last year and was also a member of the Current for two semesters, including one as opinion editor, styled himself a skeptic. He said that he respects people who disagree with him, even though he asserts that their opinions are based on feelings.

“If you ever want to come up to me and say ‘Cameron, this is a fact,’ my very first inclination to you is going to be ‘I will totally entertain that you feel that’s a fact—what is your supporting anything to assert that?’ ‘Oh, well, I feel it deep down inside my heart.’ ‘OK, (laughs), I respect your right and ability to feel what you want to feel in your heart is true, that does not mean I’m going to concur with you. But I can respect how you feel.’”

Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher with the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization in Los Angeles, said that the Holocaust is “the most documented crime in history.”

“The people on trial at Nuremberg answered that they were just following orders. They never said it never happened because it obviously did,” said Breitbart. “It’s not scholarship, it’s really pseudo scholarship. Essentially, what they’re saying is that Jews and their supporters are liars.”
Cameron Weaver protests at the annual March In March in downtown Sacramento last spring. Weaver was elected as Student Trustee last spring, a paid position on the Los Rios Community College District's Board of Trustees.

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Cameron Weaver protests at the annual March In March in downtown Sacramento last spring. Weaver was elected as Student Trustee last spring, a paid position on the Los Rios Community College District’s Board of Trustees. (File photo)

Weaver won the position of Los Rios Student Trustee in April’s election on eServices.

The Los Rios Student Trustee is elected by the students of the district and serves a term of one year. Weaver sits on the Los Rios Board of Trustees but does not cast a binding vote.

The Student Trustee is paid 75 percent of the elected Board of Trustees compensation, according to the 2015-2016 Student Trustee Handbook.

According to state records, Weaver’s predecessor Omba Kipuke received $4,907 in regular pay for the first five months of his year-long service during the 2014-2015 academic year.

Kipuke also received $7,481 in total benefits, including health, medical and dental insurance from the district.

ASB Sen. Laurie Jones, who ran against Weaver in April’s election, said she had never heard him discuss conspiracy theories in her presence, but firmly disagrees with his stance.

“As far as I know there wasn’t a lot of photoshopping in the 40s,” said Jones. “It’s not something I’m skeptical about.”

Tamara Dunning, who acted as ASB Student Senate president last year, worked closely with Weaver on the board. Dunning said she was “shocked” when she learned of Weaver’s comments.

“He is the trustee on behalf of all the students. It doesn’t matter where you come from, what you did, what gender you are or identify as,” said Dunning. “That’s leadership. He’s supposed to represent the students and not conspiracy theories.”

When asked about the shooting that left one dead and two injured at Sacramento City College on Sept. 3, Weaver said that antidepressants play a role in high-profile shootings — something he alleges the Food and Drug Administration may be covering up.

“All the school shootings that have been nationally reported, every single shooter has a very interesting thing in common. They’re all taking antidepressant medication. What kind of antidepressant medication were they taking? Oh, Prozac,” said Weaver. “If I was to tell you that I think there’s a stake from the FDA and the people that support the FDA, who get financial kickbacks from being supporters of the FDA, to not let that conversation happen, somebody might consider me to be a truther or a conspiracy theorist.

“I’ve never, ever heard on TV in a national conversation anything about antidepressants in this … I would love to be on the Senate floor and say ‘Hey, we’re talking about guns all day and night. What about this? How come nobody’s discussing this?’”

He’s supposed to represent the students and not conspiracy theories. –Tamara Dunning, former ASB Student Senate president

Weaver, who is majoring in political science and has high political aspirations, said that he was motivated to go into public service following Sept. 11, expressing doubt that the 9/11 Commission Report included all the facts.

“As the months and the years progress, you get a little bit older, you get a little bit more able to think for yourself and I just look back and you go over what has transpired since 9/11, the facts or the data that’s publicly available since 9/11, and I’m disgusted,” Weaver said. “I’m disgusted that there’s been so many things given to the public that omit the key things that really detail what the 9/11 Commission didn’t go over when they did their report.”

Weaver said he personally believes that Saudi Arabia was involved in the planning and execution of 9/11.

“It’s come to my understanding that there was a lot of background involvement to some degree in 9/11 with the least likely suspect a normal American may think: Saudi Arabia. And—and this is kind of why I want to get into politics—you read documents that pinpoint Saudi Arabia,” Weaver said.

Weaver also critiqued those who emphasize the safety of childhood vaccinations.

“I won’t come out and say ‘Hey, all vaccines are bad, let’s get rid of them immediately.’ That’s jumping the gun. We don’t have all the meat on the table,” said Weaver. “But still, looking at these side points, well dude, why aren’t we talking about this? Why is there such a perceived negative connotation if somebody looks at these and says ‘Hey. This looks a little—’ ‘No, you’re a conspiracy theorist!’ (imitates whine) You see what I’m sayin’?”

Weaver said the title of “conspiracy theorist” is one he wears proudly.

“If anybody would consider me a ‘conspiracy theorist’ because I entertain looking at the outside aspects of things that affect our country, that’s a title I wear proudly,” said Weaver. “I have no shame in that.”

Breitbart said that casting doubt on the historicity of the Holocaust was “insulting.”

“When you trivialize the suffering of others, it’s like killing the victim a second time,” he said.
The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

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Postby Inquisitor » 4 years 11 months ago (Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:40 pm)

Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher with the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization in Los Angeles, said that the Holocaust is “the most documented crime in history.”


Ah, that old chestnut. Curiously though, even leading Exterminationist mouthpieces have been forced to admit that just the opposite is true - that indeed, there is shockingly little documentation that supports the official "holocaust" narrative. If it were indeed the "most documented crime in history," then there wouldn't be volumes upon volumes, video after video of Revisionist works that clearly and irrefutably show otherwise!

All it takes is for someone to objectively look at the evidence and sift out the obvious nonsense, and one cannot help but conclude that this tale, as officially established, simply doesn't hold up to honest scrutiny. How far one takes it - that is to say, how much time and research they actually devote to the matter will likely dictate just how far they ultimately depart from the official tale. In other words, if you do the work, connect the dots, and indeed accept some rather uncomfortable and inconvenient truths and realities, the fraud will be laid bare. What you do with that information or how you interpret it historically, politically and what have you, is up to you - but will likely vary from person to person in terms of final conclusions.

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Re: Student trustee skeptical about "Holocaust" / a rapidly growing trend

Postby Hektor » 4 years 11 months ago (Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:57 pm)

You beat me to it, Inquisitor, but there's another regular tagline, actually two.
“The people on trial at Nuremberg answered that they were just following orders. They never said it never happened because it obviously did,” said Breitbart.

1. "they were just following orders" - Can he show such orders to gas Jews using Zyklon B, please? And was that really the common testimony at Nuremberg. From what I've listened to, they commonly took responsibility for their actions or decisions (I got Goering, Doenitz, Keitel, von Ribbentrop, etc. in mind)
2. "They never said it never happened ", well most said they didn't know about this, or that it was news to them, which is put mildly saying that it's drivel.

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Re: Student trustee skeptical about "Holocaust" / a rapidly growing trend

Postby SesleyWaunders » 4 years 9 months ago (Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:22 am)

I always wondered why no one was excited to hear that 6 million people probably didn't die. You would think this information would be regarded as wonderful news. Whole world should be rejoicing.

Really? 6 million didn't die by gas chambers and such? No human suffering? Front page news, right?

Strange world we live in.

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Postby Hannover » 4 years 9 months ago (Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:23 am)

SesleyWaunders wrote:I always wondered why no one was excited to hear that 6 million people probably didn't die. You would think this information would be regarded as wonderful news. Whole world should be rejoicing.

Really? 6 million didn't die by gas chambers and such? No human suffering? Front page news, right?

Strange world we live in.

Indeed, myself and others here have made that same observation. Revisionists bring good news, Revisionists are a life affirming force for good.

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Postby NLH » 4 years 9 months ago (Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:30 pm)

This is the full audio recording of the Current's interview with Los Rios Student Trustee Cameron Weaver. Following Weaver's claim that his views were "misrepresented" in the article stemming from the interview, the Current decided to release the full audio file and let Weaver's statements speak for themselves.

Here you can compare the above article based on this interview, with the actual interview. Here we have the source material to view for ourselves.

"Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."
- Kitty Hart-Moxon, Jewish Holocaust Survivor.

June 1998 testimony, USC Shoah Foundation, Visual History Archive.
Part 2 - YouTube - 1:21:42

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Postby EtienneSC » 4 years 9 months ago (Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:13 pm)

NLH wrote:This is the full audio recording of the Current's interview with Los Rios Student Trustee Cameron Weaver. [...]

The relevant part starts at 40.00. Before that, he seems attracted to 9/11 theories and the idea of gun crime in the USA being influenced by psychoactive drugs. He comes across as enthusiastic and open minded, but not so discriminating or critical. The reporter tries to steer him into saying something controversial.

He is aware of the pre-1939 newspaper claims of six million Jews being killed. He describes himself as "very skeptical" but does not know the truth. He doesn't think this affects his ability to represent Jewish students.

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Postby Hektor » 4 years 9 months ago (Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:17 am)

SesleyWaunders wrote:I always wondered why no one was excited to hear that 6 million people probably didn't die. You would think this information would be regarded as wonderful news. Whole world should be rejoicing.
Really? 6 million didn't die by gas chambers and such? No human suffering? Front page news, right?
Strange world we live in.

We don't hold to the proposal that "there was no human suffering during World War 2". That's kind of the straw man Holocaust promoters try to insert into the mouth of Revisionists, while virtually nobody shows that. Certainly people suffered, including Jews, but so did Germans, Hungarians, French people, etc. The simplified, orthodox version is that "Hitler started a war, for no reason but conquest (conquering the world)." And in the course of events or before he decided to "exterminate the Jews". That's a self-serving claim for Allies and Jewish lobby groups of course, who had a community of interest of course. It's to be expected that such claims are misleading at best.

We want clarity about what happened. What are the facts, what can proved with documents and physical traces, what is the best explanation based on this? The problem is that orthodox believers have hegemony in all relevant institutions that may be able to clarify things. And they apparently have no interest into clarifying things. A simple version of events is Germans evil genocidal maniacs, Jews innocent victims and Allies knights in Shining armor. Even if you point out that this sounds pretty much like a fictitious movie script and show them some facts deviating from the plot, they will just adapt the plot a bit and discern a little, but still stick to the centers of gravity in that plot. you get remarks like:
1. "Maybe not all Germans were evil, but the Nazis certainly were. And look at the contemporary movie footage, most supported them."
2. "Maybe Jews did some wrong things, but that's no reason to treat them that way."
3. "Maybe the Allies did do some wrong things, but that was necessary to defeat the Nazis. "

This belittling attempt to be a bit more critical, will soon revert to the old plot line, since people prefer to have it as simple as possible. That's the power of myth of that kind. Decide who are the bad, the good and the ugly and then interpret the snippets of reality in the way that fits the scheme best. Ignore and belittle any contradicting data should one come across this.

It's the emperors new cloths reloaded. But with that story everyone laughed about the emperor and the people admiring his new clothes. How could they be so stupid and not see that he's naked? Well the same people laughing here are the ones refusing to see that the same mechanisms are at work with the Fuehrer's or German's new clothes. And it's the same mechanisms working in the Holocaust narrative:
* Experts claim to have woven a perfect historical record.
* You are stupid, if you're not seeing that the historical record is true.
* And add to this: You are evil as well, so some parareligious mechanisms do play into the whole thing as well.

Shame on you, if you dare to disagree. And shaming and taboos are at the core of the this whole paradigm and that makes it useful for present power goals as well, be it money or influencing politics.

In principle you do have of course a point, if crimes believed to have happened, didn't actually happen, why isn't that good news.

That student trustee follows a clever approach on this. He takes a default agnostic position. Not accepting truth claims, just because people claim one has to believe them, since all "experts" say they're true.
Experts are human, they may be deceived and they may have ulterior motives in saying what they say. Especially if their job or reputation is at stake. So they may actually filter for the more silly claims being made, just to remain credible and hence giving more credibility to a story in the public mind. But science is neither democracy nor monarchy. Facts and Logic have to stand up for themselves and it must be feasible to challenge any hypothesis being made. If this is inhibited by state power or strong social sanctioning then you're not dealing with science.


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