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Charges that Hitler was Pagan

Postby TheGrayWolf » 2 months 1 day ago (Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:59 pm)

A channel on telegram accuses Hitler of being Anti-Christian and pro-Pagan, citing multiple sources, such as the Table Talks, Goebbels Diary, The Kersten Memoirs, and Albert Speer himself.

Not only are there major issues with all of these sources, the public record of his speeches, and laws and actions completely contradict this.

A standard quote from Hitler himself from the same table talks:
"Nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan." -Hitler's table talks, page 49


"We will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our movement. Such folk are not national socialists, but something else ."
- Adolf Hitler, Nuremberg (9/6/1938) (http://hitler.org/speeches/)


"For the same people who brandish scholarly imitations of old German tin swords, and wear a bearskin with bull's horns over their heads, preach for the present nothing but spiritual weapons, and run away as fast as they can from every communist blackjack!"
- Adolf Hitler, (Mein Kampf, Chapter 12)


Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years.
- Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872


The charges against him supposedly being Pagan and anti-Christian is used to demean and attack the character much in the same way they accuse the holocaust as being real.

Not only are the table talks riddled with issues, so is Goebbel's diary, and other sources.

These lies are just as controversial as the holocaust, and is used to justify anything else that they are accused of and has to be called out.
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Re: Charges that Hitler was Pagan

Postby HMSendeavour » 2 months 1 day ago (Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:58 pm)

TheGrayWolf wrote:A channel on telegram accuses Hitler of being Anti-Christian and pro-Pagan, citing multiple sources, such as the Table Talks, Goebbels Diary, The Kersten Memoirs, and Albert Speer himself.

[...]

The charges against him supposedly being Pagan and anti-Christian is used to demean and attack the character much in the same way they accuse the holocaust as being real.

Not only are the table talks riddled with issues, so is Goebbel's diary, and other sources.

These lies are just as controversial as the holocaust, and is used to justify anything else that they are accused of and has to be called out.


Hitler was not a Christian and he was not a pagan. I will comment on the quotes you provided momentarily.

Speer was indeed a self serving megalomaniac, and his memoirs are not perfect (see Matthias Schmidt's 'Albert Speer: The End of a Myth') but you cannot dismiss all of his reminiscences. Common sense in reading any text is crucial to weeding out unfalsifiable conjecture and the truth. You need to compare multiple sources as well. So, be cautious with Speer, but even if you were to quote him I don't see how you could manufacture a narrative around Hitler being a pagan:

Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It isn't enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone axe he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these relegations.

Adolf Hitler cited in: Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich (Macmillan, 1970), Pp. 94-95.


Hitler was evidently not a Christian either as Speers subsequent pages show. For example Hitler supposedly said:

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

Ibid., p. 96.


On the same page Speer did remark that:

Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.

Ibid., p. 95-96.


Whether Speer is correct to say that Hitler remained 'in the Church' is up for debate. I would say that if you don't go to Church, and if you don't act according to the Christian faith, you're not really 'in the Church' - which means Hitler certainly wasn't. Hitler 'protected' the Church only from the radical Pagans like Himmler, Bormann, or Rosenberg who would've seen it destroyed entirely. Hitler understood that many Germans still relied on the Church and so he wouldn't destroy it, he was also influenced in this regard by considerations regarding his own mother, who he knew would be an avid Churchgoer:

Immersed in ‘Barbarossa,’ Hitler remained unaware that Martin Bormann was already waging open war on the Church. On one occasion Hitler said, ‘If my mother were still alive, she’d definitely be a churchgoer and I wouldn’t want to hinder her. On the contrary, you’ve got to respect the simple faith of the people.’ Hitler assured Goebbels and Rosenberg that he would not easily forgive the German church leaders their behaviour during this emergency. But until the war was won the Party must proceed slowly against the Church. On July 30, 1941, Bormann personally circularised all the gauleiters, on Hitler’s orders, instructing them to refrain from any persecution of the religious communities, since this would only divide the nation which Hitler had so arduously united.

David Irving, Hitler's War and the War Path (Focal Point Publications, Millennium Edition, 2002), Pp. 431. (PDF)


Hitler's motivation to temper attacks against the Church is therefore not a result of him being 'Christian', but his concern about maintaining unity among the German people. It'd be a grave mistake to misattribute views to Hitler that you haven't evaluated in their correct context.

Not only are there major issues with all of these sources, the public record of his speeches, and laws and actions completely contradict this.

Anyway. You say the Goebbels diary is riddled with issues. I mean, I don't think so, no issues with it have been proven, although there is understandably speculation about potential interference from the Soviet Union, but that seems less than likely.


TheGrayWolf wrote:A standard quote from Hitler himself from the same table talks:
"Nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan." -Hitler's table talks, page 49


This quote is taken out of context, Hitler, if you read the section in full is criticising the emphasis given to religious debate. He is therefore criticizing the people on both sides who would seek to become Christians, or Pagans:

It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. Nothing dies unless it is moribund. At that period the ancient world was divided between the systems of philosophy and the worship of idols. It's not desirable that the whole of humanity should be stultified—and the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.

A movement like ours mustn't let itself be drawn into metaphysical digressions. It must stick to the spirit of exact science. It's not the Party's function to be a counterfeit for religion.

Adolf Hitler, 14 October, 1941., Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944: His Private Conversations (New York: Enigma Books, 2000), Pp. 61.


This entire, rather short conversation is highly illuminative of Hitler's nuanced thoughts regarding spirituality in general. He doesn't endorse Christianity, nor does he endorse Paganism. He believes that both primitive doctrines of worship are being replaced by scientific thought. However this does not mean Hitler supports Atheism, as he himself says:

An educated man retains the sense of the mysteries of nature and bows before the unknowable. An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal) as soon as he perceives that the State, in sheer opportunism, is making use of false ideas in the matter of religion, whilst in other fields it bases everything on pure science.

Ibid., p. 59.


I could go on and on quoting the whole section, but you should just read it for yourself. Hitler affirms the basis of National Socialism as being derived from nature, which is scientific, not mythical:

If, in the course of a thousand or two thousand years, science arrives at the necessity of renewing its points of view, that will not mean that science is a liar. Science cannot lie, for it's always striving, according to the momentary state of knowledge, to deduce what is true.

[...]

The man who lives in communion with nature necessarily finds himself in opposition to the Churches. And that's why they're heading for ruin—for science is bound to win.

[...]

I envisage the future, therefore, as follows : First of all, to each man his private creed. Superstition shall not lose its rights. The Party is sheltered from the danger of competing with the religions. These latter must simply be forbidden from interfering in future with temporal matters. From the tenderest age, education will be imparted in such a way that each child will know all that is important to the maintenance of the State. As for the men close to me, who, like me, have escaped from the clutches of dogma, I've no reason to fear that the Church will get its hooks on them.

Ibid., p. 61, 62.


You might wonder whether this conversation is genuine, personally I believe that it is. Albert Speer, independently of this Table Talk relates a similar conversation in his memoirs. For example, in this same conversation Hitler says:

I especially wouldn't want our movement to acquire a religious character and institute a form of worship. It would be appalling for me, and I would wish I'd never lived, if I were to end up in the skin of a Buddha!

Ibid., p. 61.


And from Speer:

Thus Hitler had little sympathy with Himmler in his mythologizing of the SS.

What nonsense! Here we have at last reached an age that has left all mysticism behind it, and now he wants to start that all over again. We might just as well have stayed with the church. At least it had tradition. To think that I may some day be turned into an SS saint! Can you imagine it? I would turn over in my grave. . . .


Speer, Third Reich, op cit., p. 94.


The Table Talk quotation only has Himmler listed as a guest, not Speer, but nonetheless, whether these are two different occasions or the same one, Hitler most certainly expressed consistent religious/spiritual sentiments.


The quote about the occult is fine, there's no need to comment on it. It's true that Hitler didn't like the influence of the Occult, but this didn't mean he endorsed Christianity.

Next you quote from Mein Kampf no doubt an inferior translation, but no matter:

"For the same people who brandish scholarly imitations of old German tin swords, and wear a bearskin with bull's horns over their heads, preach for the present nothing but spiritual weapons, and run away as fast as they can from every communist blackjack!"
- Adolf Hitler, (Mein Kampf, Chapter 12)


This quote is also taken out of context. If you read the full chapter Hitler is criticizing 'Volkish' larpers, who are Pagan, but that's not the same as criticizing Paganism. Hitler is addressing an attitude of a certain group of people, and ridiculing their inconsistencies. Hitler derides these 'folk-lore comedians' for being unproductive in the face of Jewish power. Hitler says in the same section:

Among those people, it's often hard to distinguish between those who are merely stupid and incompetent, and those who have a definite rationale. My impression, especially with the so-called religious reformers based on ancient Germanic customs, is that they are sent by those who don't wish to see a national revival of our people. Their whole activity leads people away from the common struggle against the common enemy, the Jew.

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Volume 1: A Reckoning (New English Translation by Thomas Dalton, Clemens & Blair, 2018), Pp. 357.


Hitler follows up immediately after by characteristically chastising those who would waste a peoples time on 'religious controversies':

This causes people to waste their strength on senseless and ruinous religious controversies. These are the grounds for an authoritative and dominant centralizing force in the movement. Only in this way can it counteract the activity of such ruinous elements. And that's why these folklore wandering Jews are so hostile to any movement whose members are firmly united under one leader and one discipline. They hate such a movement because it's capable of putting a stop to their mischief.

Ibid.


Both sides of this religious argument fail to comprehend Hitler's ultimate point, which is that when going up against a monolithic enemy, infighting about religion is a waste of time. Either get behind National Socialism or go away. Religion should always come second and not interfere with the forces that promulgate the life of the people and their right to existence.


This next quote simply cannot be found at the page numbers cited.

Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years.
- Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872


Here are scans of the relevant pages from Baynes:

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Norman H. Baynes, The Speeches of Adolf Hitler April 1922 - August 1939: Volume 1 (Oxford University Press, 1942), Pp. 871-872.

As you can see, this quote is not present on these pages.


If you're interested in what Hitler's spiritual beliefs were, I would recommend you read Richard Weikart's book:

Hitler's Religion by Richard Weikart
(PDF): https://archive.org/details/richard-weikart-hitlers-religion

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Book Description: For a man whom history can never forget, Adolf Hitler remains a persistent mystery on one front--his religious faith. Atheists tend to insist Hitler was a devout Christian. Christians counter that he was an atheist. And still others suggest that he was a practicing member of the occult. None of these theories are true, says historian Richard Weikart. Delving more deeply into the question of Hitler's religious faith than any researcher to date, Weikart reveals the startling and fascinating truth about the most hated man of the 20th century: Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed nature was God. In Hitler's Religion, Weikart explains how the laws of nature became Hitler's only moral guide--how he became convinced he would serve God by annihilating supposedly inferior human beings and promoting the welfare and reproduction of the allegedly superior Aryans in accordance with racist forms of Darwinism prevalent at the time.


This is by far the most accurate understanding of Hitler's spirituality and therefore, of National Socialism which is a belief in the divinity of nature, and her natural laws. A cosmic order that spans the universe.

Weikart's book isn't perfect, he's an orthodox historian after all so he's needlessly hostile about his subject and epoch, but his overall conclusion is correct and firmly puts an end to the ridiculous religious debates concerning Hitler, and those who want to appropriate him into their own camps.
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Re: Charges that Hitler was Pagan

Postby TheGrayWolf » 2 months 1 day ago (Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:14 am)

My whole entire argument I had typed up didn't post for some reason.

I will submit just a small bit and return to it later as it is quite late here for me.

"This next quote simply cannot be found at the page numbers cited. "


This is not the correct quote, but I will show the full quote.

From page 240

In his speech in Stuttgart delivered on 15 February 1933
Hitler attacked Staatsprasident Bolz and the Centrum —
the Catholic Centre Party: the fourteen years, during
which the other parties had governed the State, had not
been years of happiness and blessedness but of unbroken
decline in all spheres. The Centrum claims that it has
attacked Bolshevism, but in fact it has gone arm in arm
with Marxism,

"In fourteen years the system which has now been
overthrown has piled mistake upon mistake, illusion
upon illusion. And that is also true of our foreign
policy. Only since the time when through our Move¬
ment the world has been shown that a new Germany of

resolution and resistance is arising—only since then are
we once more regarded with other eyes. If to-day in
Geneva a people fights side by side with us for the free¬
dom of Europe, it is we who have first formed this
friendship and not the representatives of the former
system,


*‘And now Staatsprasident Bolz says that Christianity
and the Catholic faith are threatened by us* And to that
charge I can answer; In the first place it is Christians
and not international atheists who now stand at the head
of Germany* I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I
also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties
which destroy Christianity,
If many wish to-day to take
threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I
would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen
years when they went arm in arm with atheism?”

‘*No, never and at no time was greater internal
damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen
years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those
who denied God in one and the same Government,”

*‘ Already on 14 September 1930 another possibility was
clearly open. But no, they could not, they did not wish
to separate themselves from the party-world of atheism*
We wish to fill our culture once more with the spirit of
Christianity—and not only in theory. No, we want to
burn out the symptoms of decomposition in literature,
in the theatre, in the Press—in a word in our whole
culture; we want to burn out this whole poison which
during these fourteen years has flowed into our life
,”


As you can see, he did in fact say these things. I have my reservations for quoted people who not only turned their back on the Fuhrer, but who also survived the chopping block when so many others before them didn't, like Streicher, who was merely a cartoonist.

As for the table talks, see here https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4880
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Re: Charges that Hitler was Pagan

Postby HMSendeavour » 2 months 19 hours ago (Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:36 pm)

TheGrayWolf wrote:As you can see, he did in fact say these things.


Not exactly. Whatever happened here, this is most undoubtedly not what Hitler said. I'd say the translation is simply inaccurate. This is what Hitler said:

English: Today they say that Christianity is in danger, that the Catholic faith is threatened. My reply to them is: for the time being, Christians and not international atheists are now standing at Germany’s fore.

I am not merely talking about Christianity; I confess that I will never ally myself with the parties which aim to destroy Christianity. Fourteen years they have gone arm in arm with atheism. At no time was greater damage ever done to Christianity than in those years when the Christian parties ruled side by side with those who denied the very existence of God. Germany’s entire cultural life was shattered and contaminated in this period

It shall be our task to burn out these manifestations of degeneracy in literature, theater, schools, and the press—that is, in our entire culture—and to eliminate the poison which has been permeating every facet of our lives for these past fourteen years.

German: Heute sagen sie, das Christentum sei in Gefahr, der katholische Glaube bedroht. Darauf habe ich zu erwidern : Zunächst stehen heute an der Spitze Deutschlands Christen und keine internationalen Atheisten.

Ich rede nicht vom Christentum, sondern ich bekenne, daß ich mich auch niemals verbinden werde mit solchen Parteien, die das Christentum zerstören wollen. Vierzehn Jahre sind sie mit dem Atheismus Arm in Arm gegangen. Dem Christentum ist niemals größerer Abbruch getan worden als in der Zeit, da diese christlichen Parteien mit den Gottesleugnern in einer Regierung saßen. Das ganze Kulturleben Deutschlands ist in dieser Zeit zerrüttet und verseucht worden.

Es wird unsere Aufgabe sein, diese Fäulniserscheinungen in der Literatur, in Theater, in Schulen und Presse, kurz in unserer ganzen Kultur, auszubrennen und das Gift zu beseitigen, das in diesen vierzehn Jahren in unser ganzes Leben hineingeflossen ist.

For the English, see: Adolf Hitler, February 15, 1933. In, Max Domarus, The Complete Hitler: His Speeches and Proclamations 1932-1945 (Bolchazy-Carducci Publishers), Pp. 253; in German, see: Max Domarus, Hitler Reden und Proklamationen 1932-1945. Kommentiert von Einem Deutschen Zeitgenossen: Teil 1 Triumph Erster Band 1932-1934 (Pamminger & Partner, Leonberg, 1988), Pp. 210-211.


The words attributed to Hitler 'We wish to fill our culture once more with the spirit of Christianity—and not only in theory.' appears to be pure invention, or at least, a very poor translation. In any case, it's self evident that this quote doesn't even correspond to the subsequent reality of National Socialism in Germany - because the National Socialist movement was by no means Christian, and had no religious mandate that you need to be Christian. Although it is true that Hitler did not align himself with parties that were opposed to Christianity, however it was only that way because Hitler understood that many Germans were Christian, that spirituality was important in the life of a people. So he took an understandably tactical position regarding the faith in Germany, nothing more.

Hitler's speech on February 15th 1933 put an emphasis on the failures of the governments which had governed Weimar Germany for the previous 12 years. The speech only mentions Christianity briefly, and does not discuss National Socialist ideological tenants. Keep in mind, this speech was made at a time when Hitler was by no means the undisputed Führer of Germany, he was preparing for the federal election vote that was taking place on March 5th (the enabling act wasn't passed until March 23rd), and directed his speech towards those parties who had contradicted their own dogmas. His example was the Christians who undermined their own faith, and thus the spiritualism of the German people, by aligning with atheist Marxism. It seems as though you're attributing more meaning to this speech than Hitler ever did.

TheGrayWolf wrote:As for the table talks, see here https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4880


I'm well aware of this article. It's not wholly convincing to me. The situation regarding the Table Talks is very complicated and unverifiable to those who do not have access to archival material.

The point I was making in my previous post, was that irrespective of the Table Talk's validity, the quote you posted was taken out of context.
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Re: Charges that Hitler was Pagan

Postby TheGrayWolf » 2 months 18 hours ago (Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:15 pm)

Whether the text existed in the speech or not, it's clear in that speech he speaks positively and admits he wouldn't ever ally with any organization that is anti-Christian. To suggest he only said these things just to win votes is admitting he is a liar, in which a slippery slope begins, if you believe that he lied then to obtain votes, then what else did he lie about? Or was it just this one incident?

It is clear from the 25 points they intended to keep Germany as Christian. 2nd, the public policies suggest he was Christian. Churches ordered built, crucifixes required in public schools, Hitler youth required to be bused in to churches on Sundays.

I mean it is clear through several passages in Mein Kampf combined with his actions that he was Christian, albeit not practicing.

For example, from the age of 13 on until my early 30's I was still Christian but not practicing for the simple reasons that the Churches I had attended were apostate.
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Re: Charges that Hitler was Pagan

Postby HMSendeavour » 1 month 1 day ago (Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:28 am)

TheGrayWolf wrote:Whether the text existed in the speech or not, it's clear in that speech he speaks positively and admits he wouldn't ever ally with any organization that is anti-Christian. To suggest he only said these things just to win votes is admitting he is a liar, in which a slippery slope begins, if you believe that he lied then to obtain votes, then what else did he lie about? Or was it just this one incident?


No. I very clearly said that he was telling the truth, he didn't ally with any anti-Christian parties. Hitler quickly outmanoeuvred his conservative coalition partners, and prior to joining the Harzburg front (which he did to benefit the NSDAP not to succumb to the will of any conservatives) Hitler did not ally with other groups.

Hitler never said he wouldn't ally with anti-Christian organisations.

TheGrayWolf wrote:It is clear from the 25 points they intended to keep Germany as Christian. 2nd, the public policies suggest he was Christian. Churches ordered built, crucifixes required in public schools, Hitler youth required to be bused in to churches on Sundays.


The party program and the 25 points was composed by a council of 5 people, Hitler among them. It isn't clear how much influence Hitler had on these 25 points although he certainly accepted them, obviously. The point being that Hitler let himself be unfettered if it was practically reasonable, he wouldn't, and didn't hem himself in with stringent policy or programs. Which is why it's very hard for people who think in terms of 'ideology' to understand National Socialism. They make the erroneous mistake of equating practical policy with ideological goals. There is overlap of course, it'd be ridiculous to claim the National Socialists didn't institute policy that was in line with National Socialism. Anyway, as I've already told you, Hitler was not concerned with Christianity himself but its influence on the German people. He favoured a 'positive Christianity' in that context, which is what point 24 of the 25 points stresses.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe that the Hitler Youth were sent to Church on Sundays. I don't know of any such source that would corroborate that. However, the Hitler Youth was not opposed to Positive Christianity:

At a December 1933 speech in Braunschweig, he (Baldur von Schirach, NSDAP National Youth Leader) made a promise: "The newly-enrolled members of the Hitler Youth will not ask of their comrades: 'Are you Protestant?' or 'Are you Catholic?', only 'Are you German'." Taken in isolation, this passage would seem to offer ample evidence that the churches' fears were justified. However, in the same speech, Schirach insisted he was not anti-Christian: "They say of us that we are an anti-Christian movement. They even say that I am an outspoken paganist .... I solemnly declare here, before the German public, that I stand on the basis of Christianity, but I declare just as solemnly that I will put down every attempt to introduce confessional matters into our Hitler Youth."

[...]

In a meeting at the beginning of October, Schirach said of himself: "I belong to no confession. I am neither Protestant nor Catholic, I believe only in Germany"

Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945 (Cambridge University Press, 2003), Pp. 143. See too, note 150.


Steigmann-Gall actually shows that the Hitler youth were given some private time to worship however they pleased, whether they were Christian or not. He furnishes no proof that the Hitler youth was forced to go to Church on Sundays, as if it were some mandatory religious practise.

TheGrayWolf wrote:I mean it is clear through several passages in Mein Kampf combined with his actions that he was Christian, albeit not practicing.

For example, from the age of 13 on until my early 30's I was still Christian but not practicing for the simple reasons that the Churches I had attended were apostate.


No. This is not clear. At least not from Mein Kampf:

what did the top Nazi, Adolf Hitler, have to say? Much is already known through the "Bible" of the Nazi movement, Hitler's Mein Kampf. In its pages Hitler gave no indication of being an atheist or agnostic or of believing in only a remote, rationalist divinity.60 Indeed, he referred continually to a providential, active deity: "What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race ... so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe .... Peoples that bastardize themselves, or let themselves be bastardized, sin against the will of eternal Providence. " Whereas reference to a vague providential force bears little resemblance to belief in the biblical God, elsewhere in Mein Kampf Hitler intones more than a naturalist pantheism devoid of Christian content. Again, it was in the question of race and race purity in which Hitler most frequently intoned such a God: It was, in his view, the duty of Germans "to put an end to the constant and continuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the Almighty Creator beings such as He Himself created." Even as Hitler elsewhere made reference to an anthropomorphized "Nature," and the laws of nature that humanity must follow, he also revealed his belief that these were divine laws ordained by God: "The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."

Ibid., p. 26-27ff.


It's possible that Hitler considered himself a non-practising Christian in the early to mid 1920s, but certainly not by the time he became Chancellor and into WW2. Goebbels notes in his diary on April 8th, 1941:

German:

Der Führer verbietet ein Bombardement Athens . Das ist richtig und edel von ihm . Rom und Athen sind Mekka für ihn . Er bedauert sehr, gegen die Griechen kämpfen zu müssen . Hätten sich dort nicht die Engländer festgesetzt, er wäre niemals den Italienern zu Hilfe geeilt. Das hätten sie, weil es ihre Sache ist , schon selbst machen müssen. Der Führer ist ein ganz auf die Antike ausgerichteter Mensch . Er haßt das Christentum, weil es alles edle Menschentum verkrüppelt hat . Christentum und Syphilis haben nach Schopenhauer die Menschheit unglücklich und unfrei gemacht . Welch ein Unterschied zwischen einem gütig und weise lächelnden Zeus und einem schmerzverzerrten gekreuzigten Christus. Auch die Gottesanschauung selbst ist bei den antiken Völkern viel edler und menschlicher als beim Christentum. Welch ein Unterschied zwischen einem düsteren Dom und einem hellen , freien antiken Tempel. Er schildert das Leben im alten Rom : Klarheit , Größe , Monumentalität . Die großartigste Republik der Geschichte. Wir würden wohl keine Enttäuschung erleben, so meint er, wenn wir jetzt plötzlich in diese alte ewige Stadt versetzt würden. Der Führer hat gar kein Verhältnis zur Goti k . Er haßt die Düsterkeit und den verschwimmenden Mystizismus. Es will Klarheit , Helligkeit, Schönheit . Das ist auch das Lebensideal unserer Zeit. Da ist der Führer ein ganz moderner Mensch . Das Augusteische Zeitalter ist ihm der Höhepunkt der Geschichte. Und was die Sklaven anbetrifft , die das Christentum angeblich befreite : Sie sind im Mittelalter viel unfreier und bedrückter gewesen als im alten Rom . Was heißt da überhaupt Sklaverei ? Ist vielleicht ein heutiger Industrieprolet freier als ein Sklave vor der amerikanischen »Freiheit« in den Südstaaten.Das sind alles Vorurteile. Ich schneide das Gespräch über die Serben an . Ich habe gerade ein interessantes Buch über die Obrenowitsch und Karageorgewitsch gelesen . Das ist eine tolle Verbrecherbande . Der Führer kennt die Dinge ganz genau. Der ganze Balkan mit all seinen Rätseln liegt vor ihm wie ein aufgeschlagenes Buch . Er erzählt mir verrückte Geschichten vom alten Nikita und seinen Töchterheiraten . Er war ein Hochstapler auf dem Thron, und das alte Wien hatte schon seine liebe Not mit ihm.


English:

The Führer forbids a bombardment of Athens. That is right and noble of him. Rome and Athens are Mecca for him. He very much regrets having to fight the Greeks. If the English had not established themselves there, he would never have rushed to the aid of the Italians. They should have done that themselves because it was their own business. The Führer is a person who is completely oriented towards antiquity. He hates Christianity because it has crippled all noble humanity. According to Schopenhauer, Christianity and syphilis made mankind unhappy and unfree. What a difference between a gracious and wise smiling Zeus and a pain-contorted crucified Christ. Even the view of God itself is much more noble and humane among the ancient peoples than with Christianity. What a difference between a gloomy cathedral and a bright, free ancient temple. He describes life in ancient Rome: clarity, size, monumentality. The greatest republic in history. We would probably not experience any disappointment, he says, if we were suddenly transferred to this old eternal city. The Führer has absolutely no relationship with the Gothic. He hates the gloom and the blurred mysticism. It wants clarity, brightness, beauty. That is also the ideal of life in our time. The Führer is a very modern person. The Augustan age is the climax of history for him. And as for the slaves that Christianity supposedly liberated: They were much less free and depressed in the Middle Ages than in ancient Rome. What does slavery mean anyway? Perhaps today's industrial proletariat is freer than a slave to American "freedom" in the southern states. These are all prejudices. I cut up the conversation about the Serbs. I have just read an interesting book about the obrenovich and karageorgewitsch. This is a great gang of criminals. The Führer knows things very well. The whole Balkans with all its riddles lies before him like an open book. He tells me crazy stories about old Nikita and his daughter marriages. He was an impostor on the throne, and old Vienna was in dire straits with him.


Herausgegeben von Ralf Georg Reuth, Joseph Goebbels Tagebücher 1924-1945: Band 4 1940-1942 (Piper Verlag, München, Auflage März 2003), Pp. 1557.


To call Hitler a 'Christian' would nevertheless be a misunderstanding of his views on religion. It just wouldn't be an accurate representation of what Hitler thought, just as it wouldn't be accurate to describe him as a pagan or an occultist. Hitler could be more accurately characterised as a Diest.
Now what does it mean for the independent expert witness Van Pelt? In his eyes he had two possibilities. Either to confirm the Holocaust story, or to go insane. - Germar Rudolf, 13th IHR Conference.


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