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Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Mortimer » 6 years 8 months ago (Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:23 am)

Many lies have been told about Adolf Hitler especially during world war 2 and in the decades since. With the case of Hermann Rauschning he started telling lies years before the conflict even started. He is the author of a book entitled HITLER SPEAKS (aka THE VOICE OF DESTRUCTION). Rauschning was formerly a member of the national socialist party who became disgruntled and left. Writing a book about Hitler and his alleged plans was his form of revenge. He claimed to have had 100 meetings with the German leader when in reality he only met him at most half a dozen times. He claimed Hitler told him in confidence of his wide ranging war plans and his ideas for the future. But Rauschning never was alone with him there was always many other people present. But that didn't stop historians and journalists such as William L Shirer from including quotes and information from Rauschning's book.
http://codoh.com/library/document/2058/
http://codoh.com/library/document/2141/
One such phoney quote is "One is either a German or a Christian you can't be both" which has been repeated many times. One such example of the media using this is in the 1962 film HITLER with Richard Basehart in the title role -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMc4uN7GYBs IMDB listing for HITLER is here - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056072/
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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Kingfisher » 6 years 8 months ago (Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:05 pm)

Mortimer wrote:One such phoney quote is "One is either a German or a Christian you can't be both" which has been repeated many times.


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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby neugierig » 6 years 8 months ago (Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:00 pm)

Well done Mortimer. I have the book “The Voice of Destruction”, a 1940 edition. What garbage, even Prof. Maser, who was not a Revisionist, had some unkind words to say about this Rauschning in his “Fälschung, Dichtung und Wahrheit über Hitler und Stalin”, the chapter titled “Hermann Rauschnings erfundene ‘Gespräche mit Hitler”, pp.204-206. (Rauschnings imagined talks with Hitler)

This however did not deter the IMT shysters from using this fairy tales as evidence:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-24-46.asp

It starts right on top of the first page, 256, and on p.268 we read:

“Interrogatories may be administered to Rauschning, but they must be administered immediately, and they will only be considered if they are received before the case is closed. Further extracts from Rauschning's book, which has been referred to, may be submitted to the Tribunal.”

I’m not sure if Rauschning was cross-examined, I doubt it.

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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Mortimer » 6 years 8 months ago (Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:29 am)

neugierig wrote:Well done Mortimer. I have the book “The Voice of Destruction”, a 1940 edition. What garbage, even Prof. Maser, who was not a Revisionist, had some unkind words to say about this Rauschning in his “Fälschung, Dichtung und Wahrheit über Hitler und Stalin”, the chapter titled “Hermann Rauschnings erfundene ‘Gespräche mit Hitler”, pp.204-206. (Rauschnings imagined talks with Hitler)

This however did not deter the IMT shysters from using this fairy tales as evidence:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-24-46.asp

It starts right on top of the first page, 256, and on p.268 we read:

“Interrogatories may be administered to Rauschning, but they must be administered immediately, and they will only be considered if they are received before the case is closed. Further extracts from Rauschning's book, which has been referred to, may be submitted to the Tribunal.”

I’m not sure if Rauschning was cross-examined, I doubt it.

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The entire book is available free online here - http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Voice%20of ... uction.htm
According to the accompanying article Rauschning did not testify.
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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby neugierig » 6 years 8 months ago (Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:38 pm)

Thanks for the link, Mortimer, I didn’t know the book was available on-line.

And I also don’t believe that Rauschning was called as a witness, the shysters probably knew he was lying but needed his tale to make their case. Victors ‘justice’ at its finest.

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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Mortimer » 5 years 10 months ago (Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:26 pm)

Apparently Rauschning went to the grave never admitting (at least publicly) that he had concocted a falsification of history - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Rauschning
It is quite telling that he received a 125 000 franc advance from a French publisher for his book.
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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Hektor » 5 years 7 months ago (Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:35 pm)

neugierig wrote:Thanks for the link, Mortimer, I didn’t know the book was available on-line.

And I also don’t believe that Rauschning was called as a witness, the shysters probably knew he was lying but needed his tale to make their case. Victors ‘justice’ at its finest.
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It's online, I sometimes confuse it with the the Table Talks.
It was already with the mainstreamers to convince them that Rauschnings Writings aren't a reliable source by any shot.
But I see his book was used in Nuremberg for "evidence". Is there a complete follow up on the usage of the book?
I just found this article by Mark Weber on Rauschning and his texts.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p499_Weber.html
However there may be much more.
From an exterminationist perspective the contents of the "Voice of destruction" is simply too good to be true. One thing I noticed is that whenever a text attributed to National Socialist is over the top clichee-laden, there is good reason to be suspicious. This accounts for documents (usually type-written without signature), but also testimony and hearsay.

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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Mortimer » 5 years 5 months ago (Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:51 am)

Another fake Hitler quote is related to the Armenians during World War One. He is supposed to have said "Who talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?" - http://codoh.com/library/document/1766/
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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby christianbethel » 10 months 1 week ago (Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:46 am)

Wikipedia, as usual tries to confuses the readers of the article on Rauschning. In one passage, it says the memoir has no credibility and in another it goes back and forth saying it does and does not.

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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby HMSendeavour » 9 months 2 days ago (Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:45 am)

Not even Ian Kershaw accepts the validity of Hermann Rauschning:

I have on no single occasion cited Hermann Rauschning’s Hitler Speaks, a work now regarded to have so little authenticity that it is best to disregard it altogether.

Source: Ian Kershaw, Hitler 1889-1936: Hubris, pp. xiv


For more on this see my article on Shirer: http://redpillaction.subvert.pw/?p=155
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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Mortimer » 6 months 3 weeks ago (Sat May 02, 2020 4:02 pm)

The US army made a series of films called Why We Fight to indoctrinate their troops during WW2. It comes as no surprise that they used fake Hitler quotes by Hermann Rauschning.
https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/fa ... army-film/
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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby Hektor » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:17 am)

HMSendeavour wrote:Not even Ian Kershaw accepts the validity of Hermann Rauschning:

I have on no single occasion cited Hermann Rauschning’s Hitler Speaks, a work now regarded to have so little authenticity that it is best to disregard it altogether.

Source: Ian Kershaw, Hitler 1889-1936: Hubris, pp. xiv


For more on this see my article on Shirer: http://redpillaction.subvert.pw/?p=155


It's to obviously phoney and my guess is that the Hitler Myth makers have found out that people realise this too quickly.
What I would be more interested in are the pros and cons of the Table Talk, which I presume are a mixture of half truth with some eiegesis by its authors/editors.

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Re: Hitler Speaks - The Bogus Memoir Of Hermann Rauschning

Postby HMSendeavour » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:53 am)

Hektor wrote:What I would be more interested in are the pros and cons of the Table Talk, which I presume are a mixture of half truth with some eiegesis by its authors/editors.


Well, you don't have to wait long for that. An entire book is coming out this year dedicated to the history and authenticity of the Table Talks.

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528 pages, releasing in September.

After Hitler's death, several posthumous books were published which purported to be the verbatim words of the Nazi leader – two of the most important of these documents were Hitler's Table Talk and The Testament of Adolf Hitler. This ground-breaking book provides the first in-depth analysis and critical study of Hitler’s so-called table talks and their history, provenance, translation, reception, and usage.

Based on research in public and private archives in four countries, the book shows when, why, where, how, by and for whom the table talks were written, how reliable the texts are, and how historians should approach and use them. It reveals the crucial role of the mysterious Swiss Nazi Francois Genoud as well as some very poor judgement from several famous historians in giving these dubious sources more credibility than they deserved. The book sets the record straight regarding the nature of these volumes as historical sources – proving inter alia The Testament to be a clever forgery – and aims to establish a new consensus on their meaning and impact on historical research into Hitler and the Third Reich.

This path-breaking historical investigation will be of considerable interest to all researchers and historians of the Nazi era.

https://www.routledge.com/Hitler-Redux-The-Incredible-History-of-Hitlers-So-Called-Table-Talks/Nilsson/p/book/9780367353063


I'm skeptical about how reliable this book will be, how it will try to shape the conventional narrative. I do agree that the Table Talks probably have some level of authentic foundation, with layers of untruth and disinformation spattered about.
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