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'Holocaust' History Project's Zimmerman demolished

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:20 pm)

Well, once again, the so called 'Holocaust' History Project gets a spanking.

Here are just a few compelling bits of information about a John Zimmerman whose material is available on the HHP website.

- Zimmerman falsely maintains that 1,000,000 Jews were cremated at Auschwitz; 500,000 in crematory ovens and 500,000 in outdoor open pits.
And since over half of the Auschwitz victims are supposed to have been killed in the last six months the camp was in operation, those must have been some mighty big pits. Yet giant pits of the kind that would be required -- assuming for the moment it was even possible to do this -- DO NOT SHOW UP IN THE AERIAL PHOTOS OF THE PERIOD

- Now see Germar Rudolf shoot down more of Zimmerman's fraud.

Here is a newspaper letter by Zimmerman, followed by a blistering response from acclaimed German Revisionist, Rudolf.

Zimmerman’s letter to the Times:
Letters | Los Angeles Times, Sunday, January 16, 2000
Holocaust Denial

Some of the information appearing in "Danger in Denying Holocaust?" (Jan. 7) may mislead your readers. I am a member of the Holocaust History Project, an Internet organization that monitors and evaluates Holocaust denial
http://www.holocaust-history.org

The claim by Holocaust-denier Germar Rudolf about there being much more traces of poison gas in the delousing chambers than the homicidal gas chambers of Auschwitz was addressed in a comprehensive study of these facilities undertaken in 1994 by Krakow's Institute for Forensic Research.
The institute noted that the reason for the variance was because it took 24 hours for a delousing as opposed to 20 minutes for a homicidal gassing. The institute also noted that the homicidal chambers were destroyed by the Germans while the delousing facilities were not.
The problem for deniers like Rudolf is to explain why any traces of poison gas turned up in structures identified by numerous eyewitnesses as homicidal gas chambers.
The "academics at respected institutions" who accept denier arguments are two long-time deniers, not impartial scholars seeking to obtain the truth about historical events. Neither has been taken seriously by historians and both have long been discredited.
The poll taken by the Roper Organization that showed 22% doubted the Holocaust was due to the fact that the question contained double negatives. When the question was asked in a straightforward manner only 5% expressed some degree of doubt but even they believed the Holocaust occurred. This finding by
the Roper Organization never received the attention of the flawed original poll.

JOHN C. ZIMMERMAN
Las Vegas


Rudolf rebuts:

To: "Zimmerman, John C"
Subject: Re: Letter, LA Times: "Holocaust denial"
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:44:24 -0500
Dear John,
In case you didn't realise it:

1. In 1994/95 I proved that the 1994 Kracow expertise about cyanide residues:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/ ... -research/
-leuchter.report is at least biased, if not a serious attempt of fraud: http://www.vho.org\GB\Books\cq\leuchter.html.

As a member of www.holocaust-history.org you know this because you are aware of the exchange between R.J. Green:
http://www.holocaust-story.org/auschwit ... he-science
and me:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Contributions/Green.html http://www.vho.org/GB/Contributions/Cha ... ssins.html

Ignoring that makes you an accomplice of these frauds.

2. You are right regarding the principle difference in the time required to gas lice and humans (though one has to argue about the actual values). But you ignore the factors that made it much more likely that long-term stable cyanide residues would form in the cold underground morgues of Krema II and III rather than in the heated ground-floor delousing chambers (humidity, kind of material). You ignore the fact that wide parts of the under-ground morgue 1 of Krema II, the allegedly most frequently used 'gas chamber', are fairly well intact and protected by environmental influences. Therefore, your presentation itself is biased.

3. In contrary to your false claim, I have no problems to explain the minimal cyanide residues in the walls of those morgues: They are not reproducible and in the same order of magnitude as in samples taken from all sorts of locations. With other words: These values close to the detection level cannot be interpreted at all. I have demonstrated that in my report.

4. Please explain me: Where are the trace of the holes allegedly used to pour in the Zyklon B? NO HOLES, NO 'HOLOCAU$T'!

5. Your claim that "The academics at respected institutions' who accept denier arguments are two long-time deniers, not impartial scholars seeking to obtain the truth about historical events. Neither has been taken seriously by historians and both have long been discredited." is an outrageous lie. I don't know who invented it and if you know that it is untrue. Fact is that neither Dr. Joachim Hoffmann nor Prof. Dr. Ernst Nolte,
the two scholars Mrs. Murphy was referring to, are "long-term deniers" and the haven't been discredited either.

Yours truly,

Germar Rudolf

Yet more on the 'Holocaust' History Project's laughable John Zimmerman to follow.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:11 pm)

read more from Rudolf and see how the alleged 'gas chambers' are a fraud:

The Rudolf Report
Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects
of the 'Gas Chambers' of Auschwitz

see:
http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:05 am)

This thread works nicely with:
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1951

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:36 am)

1. In 1994/95 I proved that the 1994 Kracow expertise about cyanide residues:
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/ ... -research/
-leuchter.report is at least biased, if not a serious attempt of fraud: http://www.vho.org\GB\Books\cq\leuchter.html


"In 1994/95 I proved that the 1994 Kracow expertise about cyanide residues" --that sentence doesn't make sense to me.

Also the url doesn't work because there's a period at the end, and some of the slashes go the wrong way. Here it is fixed:
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/cq/leuchter.html

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Postby Scott » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:42 pm)

Carto's Cutlass Supreme wrote:"In 1994/95 I proved that the 1994 Kracow expertise about cyanide residues" --that sentence doesn't make sense to me.


It should read like this:

1. In 1994/95 I proved that the 1994 Kracow expertise about cyanide residues:

http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/ftp.py?orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research//post-leuchter.report

is at least biased, if not a serious attempt of fraud:

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/cq/leuchter.html


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Postby DowntownSteve » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:29 pm)

More HHP nonsense for another fib-merchant. Are all these guys such lightweights?

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:34 pm)

Did Rudolf get a reply or did they just put him in jail for the medieval crime of "flat earth" belief? Strange thing this holocaust. You can have the facts with you and still be silenced and put in jail by people calling for your censorship...

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:32 pm)

This is for Breslau, since he posted a link to Zimmerman's nonsense.

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