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'Holocaust survivor' cries when he sees trains

Postby Mark_Twain » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:29 pm)

Another silly holocaust story to poision kid's minds A supposed holocaust train sits in downtown Chicago
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Here were the real trains
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What nonsense

This crazy Jew says he was in this boxcar. He says he breaks down and cries when he sees a train. $ 50 says this 'Survivor' sat out the war in Milwaukee.

Rail car recalls painful history
Ceremony to mark role in Holocaust


By Ron Grossman
Tribune staff reporter
Published November 9, 2005

Though he's not the type to let his emotions show, Sam Harris has a tough time when stuck at a railroad crossing behind a slowly moving train. When a cattle car or a boxcar rumbles past, the tears flow uncontrollably.
Yet he is going out of his way for a rendezvous with the kind of freight car into which he and myriad others were loaded during the darkest days of World War II. He was 8 1/2 years old then. The adults crammed in around him were crying and screaming.

"The train went slow; when it stopped we could hear children playing, dogs barking," said Harris, 70. "I wished I was a dog, just to be out of there."

On Wednesday, Harris will be at Block 37 in the Loop for a reception, if that is the appropriate term. Our social vocabulary fails when the guest of honor is an aged German railroad car. The occasion is the 67th anniversary of Kristallnacht--"the night of broken glass"--anti-Semitic riots in Nazi Germany that marked the beginning of the end for European Jewry.

Mayor Richard M. Daley is scheduled to attend the commemoration. So, too, is Mayor George Van Dusen of Skokie, where many survivors of Hitler's death camps found refuge after the war. Now, their numbers dwindling, they worry that their story will be lost when they, too, are gone.


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Postby Mark_Twain » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:33 pm)

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Postby gasto » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:08 pm)

as regards the article, no comments :lol:

but:
The occasion is the 67th anniversary of Kristallnacht--"the night of broken glass"--anti-Semitic riots in Nazi Germany that marked the beginning of the end for European Jewry.


soo, I got to assume that the Kristallnacht is the prelude to the "holocaust"? this one´s new..
If Human Soap rumour was fake, why can´t all the other absurd claims be too??

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:11 pm)

It is possible that these cattle cars were used at least once, perhaps more often. The Nazis weren't held by some kind of unseen force that made them use only one type of rail car for all deportations.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:27 pm)

Dr. Kevin MacDonald's review of Yuri Slezkine’s book, 'The Jewish Century', helps explain these absurd rantings of lying judeo-supremacist 'survivors':
Well into the 20th century, as Slezkine himself notes, most Eastern European Jews could not speak the languages of the non-Jews living around them. Slezkine also ignores their medieval outlook on life, their obsession with the Kabbala—the writings of Jewish mystics—their superstition and anti-rationalism, and their belief in magical remedies and exorcisms.

In fact, of course, the creation and maintenance of the culture of the Holocaust and the special moral claims of Jews and Israel might be more fairly viewed the intended result of Jewish ethnic activism.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/051105_macdonald_stalin.htm

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:13 am)

Richard Perle wrote:It is possible that these cattle cars were used at least once, perhaps more often. The Nazis weren't held by some kind of unseen force that made them use only one type of rail car for all deportations.
Indeed. Here a photograph showing the extremes of transport:
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Jewish deportees from the Lodz ghetto who are being taken to the Chelmno death camp, are transferred from a closed passenger train to a train of open cars at the Kolo train station. [Photograph #25025]

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Postby Maly Jacek » 1 decade 4 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:27 am)

So now the trains are a cause of " painful memories " too

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... ht=showers

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Postby Daniel Saez Lorente » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:39 am)

Maly Jacek wrote:So now the trains are a cause of " painful memories " too

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... ht=showers


Maybe we get rid of all rail transport, the way we can't buy model airplanes with swastikas on them any more, because they make the Jews suffer too much, even they cram swastikas down our throats at least 5 times a night on prime time TV, with all their films, documentaries, docudramas, etc. etc. But no, now we've got to tear up all our railroads and sink all the boxcars in the deep briny, to please the crybabies. Next time there's a Holocaust we'll have to use rocket ships and blast them all into outer space, so they don't come back.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:51 am)

Vallon stated:
Jewish deportees from the Lodz ghetto who are being taken to the Chelmno death camp, are transferred from a closed passenger train to a train of open cars at the Kolo train station. [Photograph #25025]

Huh?
I see nothing in this photo which indicates they will be put in open air cars.

The cars are empty to the left, yet the doors of the other train are still wide open and curiously not a single person is exiting or moving about, staff included. Hmm.

Is that really a German soldier atop one of the cars? Why is the pouch behind him in motion? ... his feet aren't. What's that stick thing between his legs? Is he pole vaulting?

Where are the Stars of David on these people?

Why is the train to the right sitting much higher than the one on the left?

And why bother transferring them? Why wouldn't they have been sent in open air cars to begin with?

Chelmno a 'death camp'? That's laughable. There is not a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

Another judeo-Soviet cut & paste job?

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Postby Vallon » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:57 am)

Hannover wrote:Why is the train to the right sitting much higher than the one on the left?

And why bother transferring them?
They were transferred to travel on narrow-gauge track.
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http://www.deathcamps.org/occupation/kolo.html

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:01 pm)

The above has some clear photos of people in the open cars. I guess that was all that was available for the narrow gauge. I would assume that regular passenger cars would be used if available.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:33 pm)

Also, the photo where a guy sits on one of the boxcars, there's a soldier behind him and his helmet doesn't look German at all - from my own observation.
I don't understand the excitment though. There was a war going on and I am sure the Jews or whoever else was transported in these boxcars would have been more upset if they had to march their way to the designated location.
This makes me think about the photograph of German people packed like sardines in boxcars and in the background there was a doubledecker visible. They claimed the people were Jewish! What a nerve.

Speaking of the link Vallon touted: http://www.deathcamps.org/occupation/kolo.html

I noticed in quotation: "for work". Apparently they are trying to imply that Jews did not work in the various establishments. The implication is ofcourse that these people were killed [look further down the page, "spent their last night"]. To back this up they have a couple of pictures of trains and boxcars!

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:58 pm)

Vallon ignored:
The cars are empty to the left, yet the doors of the other train are still wide open and curiously not a single person is exiting or moving about, staff included. Hmm.

Is that really a German soldier atop one of the cars? Why is the pouch behind him in motion? ... his feet aren't. What's that stick thing between his legs? Is he pole vaulting?

Where are the Stars of David on these people?

Why is the train to the right sitting much higher than the one on the left?

And why bother transferring them? Why wouldn't they have been sent in open air cars to begin with?

Chelmno a 'death camp'? That's laughable. There is not a shred of evidence to back up that statement.

He basically ignores everything I posted. Can Vallon show us that the gauges switched at the site in his first 'photo'?

He also posted a different picture of a train, which rests higher than a parallel track below, but the picture he posted earlier, the people in the photo were curiously not on an angle, not on a hill, but the train in that 1st picture sits much higher.

Then in the link he posted we have people in trains, but just how far were they going? Should we believe a site with a vested interest in marketing the usual lies? You really gotta love the attempt to create 'snow' on the ground by lightening certain areas of the pictures.

Please do not dodge my questions, Vallon.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:52 pm)

From Vallon's link, this one is a riot:
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- That is not a German guard.

- The weather is obviously not very cold, the guard has his jacket open, the trees are in full greenery.

- What's with the curious Stars of David, why on the back? ... in one case, on the kid, weirdly on the mid-back right area, why not on the front as other pictures show? Were they conveniently added to the picture?

- If this was all so ghastly, then why would the Germans allow it to be photographed?

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Postby grapple » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:54 am)

Below is a quote from a order page for “Sammy: Child Survivor of the Holocaust” by Samuel R. Harris (Szlamek Rzeznik) with Cheryl Gorder $14.95 softcover

https://www.epkdesign.com/holocaustcent ... rris_Sammy

In 1942 the Nazis began rounding up the Jews in the ghetto to transport them to the camps. Sammy and his two older sisters, Rosa and Sara, escaped and managed to survive the slaughter that accompanied the roundup. Rosa worked in the Deblin concentration camp and eventually smuggled in Sammy and Sara. The children were kept alive by Rosa, who managed to find extra food for them. In 1944, when Sammy was nine, the Allies were approaching Deblin. The Germans moved all the inmates to the Czestochowa concentration camp. There, Sammy and the few other children too young to work had to hide from the guards or they would be killed. In January 1945 the Allies liberated the camp.


Sammy Davis must have been the only person who after escaping from the Germans then hid from the Germans by sneaking into a German Concentration camp.


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