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10 Examples Of Media Deception About Holocaust Conference

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:17 pm)

1) CNN

Where:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

Misleading Comment:
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, right, greets self-styled rabbi Moishe Arye Friedman at the conference.

Deception angle: It's as if he's somebody who put on rabbi garb and started calling himself a rabbi. I looked him up on the web and no one I found questioned his legitimacy as a rabbi.

2) CNN

Where: same article as #1

Misleading Comment:
Ahmadinejad, who has sparked international outcry by referring to the killing of 6 million Jews in World War II as a "myth" and calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map," launched another verbal attack on the Jewish state.

Deception angle: Pairing holocaust denial with "Israel being wiped off the map." With the meaning of a nuclear attack, when it's been documented by the Guardian UK that his "wiped off the map" quote was mistranslated. See veteran Guardian reporter Jonathan Steele's article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story ... 81,00.html
And in fact Ahmadinejad made it more clear at the conference. He said Israel would disappear like the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union wasn't bombed out of existence.

Compare how the BBC started rephrasing the comment, so that it doesn't imply a nuclear attack:
"Mr Ahmadinejad has repeatedly downplayed the extent of the Holocaust, describing it as a myth used to justify the existence of Israel and oppression of the Palestinians. He has called for Israel to be dismantled."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6167695.stm

3) CNN

Where: same article as #1

Misleading comment:
Human rights groups frequently number Iran as one of the world's worst violators of free speech, where scores of newspapers have been closed, journalists jailed, access to Web sites blocked and government critics hounded out of the country.

Deception angle: With all the need to villify Iran, I've never read about newspapers being closed, and journalists being jailed. Suddenly there's new information to villify Iran! If they had done these things, I'm sure it would have been on the front page of the American newspapers. If there was this kind of repression in Iran, then how does that fit with this Ahmadinejad hit piece titled "Iranian students heckle President"?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6169773.stm

4) BBC

Where:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6167695.stm

Misleading comment:
Participants include a number of well-known "revisionist" Western academics. American David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, is to present a paper.

Deception angle: David Duke isn't even known as a revisionist, let alone a leader in the revisionist community. He's probably at the conference due to his anti-zionist activism. He didn't even deny the holocaust in his conference speech!

5) BBC

Where:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6172807.stm

Misleading comment:
Iran says it wants to debate what it calls taboos surrounding the Holocaust. Conference participants include white supremacists and Holocaust deniers.

Deception angle: David Duke went, and suddenly it's a conference of white supremists. Why are Jews who are in favor of "Jewish only roads" in the West Bank never called "Jewish supremists"? Why not mention that a Jewish American academic attended like Norman Finkelstein? That Rabbis attended? Instead of "white supremacists and Holocaust deniers."

6) Reuters:

Where:
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx.....

Misleading comment:
Among the participants was U.S. academic David Duke, a former Louisiana Republican Representative. He praised Iran for hosting the event.


Deception angle: David Duke was the first person they mentioned. He's not even a figure in the revisionist community. Why mention him first? To discredit the conference. That's why.

These are 6 examples of media lies about the Iran Holocaust Conference 2006 in Teheran.

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:09 pm)

The CNN, BBC fixation with David Duke is obviously an attempt to discredit the conference since he has a "bad name" in the western media world. He's hardly ever mentioned without also tagging him with the Ku Kux Klan. As you say he has never been an active Holocaust revisionist and did not claim to be in his talk which was quite good. The real revisionists have been ignored as far as I can see. That probably means that they have made some good points. I'd like to hear what Bradley Smith said for example. Can't have the American public hearing that!

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Postby kk » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:05 pm)

Excellent post CCS!

And I' ll never understand why Duke was invited/accepted.
Is he a revisionist scholar?
Bad decision for publicity.

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Postby kk » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:30 pm)

Also, the iranians should have send out invitations to other scholars, like van der
Pelt, Lipstad, Hillberg and all the great names of the 'exterminationists'.
They should even grant them prior access to the revisionists' summaries.
The invitations should be made as publicly as possible. It is not a matter
of scientific honesty. It's just a way to show to the world how credible they are.

And if any of them cared to show up, they should be allowed to lock horns
with accredited revisionists in a man to man basis.
How would I love to see van der Pelt confronting Dr Faurisson in a debate!
Televized internationaly!

I'm dreaming again....

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 2 years ago (Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:33 pm)

CNN has obviously decided that David Duke is a weak point in the revisionst front of the conference so they are presenting him as the sole face of the conference, always tying him into the Klan. They never mention any other participants. Tonight Wolf Blitzer had an extensive interview with Duke from Teheran hoping no doubt to get him to make some racist or other embarassing statements based on what they thought was his reputation. It didn't turn out that way. Duke handled himself pretty well. He started by attacking Blitzer for the canned introduction which eleven times mentioned Duke's Klan background which he said he left 30 years ago and asked why Blitzer didn't mention other guests' former communist backgrounds in similar fashion. Bingo! I think he set Wolfie back on his heels with that.

He accused Wolf of being a former AIPEC (Israel lobby) employee (he was) and an Israel agent (he certainly acts the part)! He did not claim to be a revisionism expert but challenged Wolf to say whether he favored the laws which imprison revisionists such as David Irving in Europe which issue Wolf ran away from with speed, saying only he asked the questions.

He denied that he hated Jews and corrected Wolf's assertion that President Ahmadinejad had said that he wanted to destroy Israel and the US, asserting that this was a mistranslation of what he had said - which it was - even though it repeated ad nauseum by Wolf and others.

Not too bad. My feeling was that he got a lot of viewers thinking. Wolf didn't get what he expected. I'd rather have seen Prof. Faurisson but let's see what others thought.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:29 pm)

I saw the same thing when those two Harvard professors came out with a paper criticizing Israel.

Because David Duke had written similar stuff years earlier, a CNN interviewer got Duke on national tv so that they could pair these professors with Duke. There was lots of cutting off Duke mid-sentence and it only last a couple minutes.

Yet, as Radar mentioned, Duke carried himself nicely when the commentator tried to bait him with allying himself with the Harvard professors.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:20 pm)

7) Wikipedia

Where:
Likely seen by millions of people: Prominently displayed on the Wikipedia English main page, top right side as of 12/13/6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatio ... _Holocaust

Misleading Comment:
Discredited French academic Robert Faurisson also attended,(10)

Deception Angle: Faurisson isn't discredited. The footnote to "10" is a Nizkor article that has one paragraph on Faurisson that says he was suspended as professor and convicted on holocaust denial related charges in France.
The footnote points to this:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/f/ ... nial-today


8) Wikipedia

Where:
same as #7

Misleading comment:
Caption over the only photo in the article
Materials for sale at one of the conference tables. Items include antisemitic DVDs such as "Ritual Murder Revisited" and "Judea Declares War on Germany".

Deception angle: It's one table someone set up. You'll get "the low end" at any conference on any ideology. They purposely don't mention books by respected revisionists, which were likely on other tables.

9) Wikipedia

Where:
Same as #7

Misleading Comment:
The conference provoked world-wide controversy, and its merits were debated both inside and outside of Iran. Conference attendees included David Duke, formerly of the Ku Klux Klan, Robert Faurisson, Rabbi Moshe Aryeh Friedman and Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss of Neturei Karta, and Fredrick Töben.


Deception angle: Why not mention Bradley Smith? or Norman Finkelstein. Once again David Duke is the first person mentioned along with the "formerly of the Klu Klux Klan" which he left 30 years ago. Notice how they don't put "formerly of the Louisiana House of Representatives." Eventhough that was much more recent than the Klan. This is the second paragraph of the article.
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There were more lies, but I don't have the energy to document them. They said an Arab Israeli wasn't allowed to attend by Iran, but I read at BBC yesterday that an Arab Israeli from Nazareth who believes in the holocaust was denied attending by Israel, not Iran.[/b]

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:40 am)

Can I join with one more? It is actually not a deception per se, but more of a malicious lie:

KKK's David Duke Tells Iran Holocaust Conference That Gas Chambers Not Used To Kill Jews (FOX News)

The only mention David Duke did regarding 'gas chambers' were these:

"German researcher/chemist Gemar Rudolf faces years of imprisonment for simply publishing a detailed forensic analysis that challenged the authenticity of alleged Auschwitz gas chambers. Ernst Zundel, a resident of Canada and the U.S was ripped from his wife and home because he had politically incorrect opinions about the events of the Second World War."
[...]
"Speaking in Lyon, France, in October 2004, Gollnisch said: “I do not deny the existence of deadly gas chambers. But I’m not a specialist on this issue, and I think we have to let the historians debate it.” He did not contest the “hundreds of thousands, the millions of deaths” during the Holocaust, but added: “As to the way those people died, a debate should take place.”"


So that is one more added to the list of Media Lies regarding the happenings and participants of this conference.

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:53 am)

In today's latest example of media bias the leading US newspaper, the New York Times, carries an editorial headed "Rogues and Fools" denouncing the conference participants with that slanderous epithet (and as expected in the editorial mentioning David Duke of Klan fame) while still failing to cover or even mention any of the presentations of the scholarly participants in their news columns. They do not dare to do so since if they did it would be clear to their readers that the revisionists have serious questions to raise about the usual Holocaust propaganda stories. The Times should be ashamed of itself but will not be. In the past they joined the Anti-Defamation League in supporting the censorship of revisionist views, a heresy for any serious news organ so we know they have no shame and are part of the Holocaust promotion lobby.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:56 am)

The whole title is infact wrong, see original news article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236 ... world/iran

KKK's David Duke


David Duke is not part of the Ku Klux Klan or associated with this organization as far as I know. He was involved with them 30 years ago, in his own words:

That was over 30 — well, 30 years ago in my life, and since that time I got elected to the House of Representatives, I became — and I received a full doctorate, I have been a teacher, I have one of the best selling books in the world.


http://www.altermedia.info/civil-rights ... e_189.html

The Media is up in the ears with lies, deception and outright fabrication regarding this conference and the people who attend it!
Full text:

CNN cut out the introduction where Mr Blitzer called Mr Duke KKK leader 11 times.

WOLF BLITZER: Joining us now live from Tehran is the former Louisiana state representative, David Duke.
Mr. Duke, thanks very much for coming in. What do you say to those who say — who charge, and there are many, that you’re there in Tehran at this Holocaust conference simply because you hate Jews?

DAVID DUKE: Well, first off, Mr. Blitzer, I resent the introduction you made of me. You mentioned the Ku Klux Klan 11 times. That was over 30 — well, 30 years ago in my life, and since that time I got elected to the House of Representatives, I became — and I received a full doctorate, I have been a teacher, I have one of the best selling books in the world.

And you interview many former communists in governments all over the world and you don’t introduce them by saying former communist and certainly not 11 times. I think you’re biased because you’re a former lobbyist for AIPAC. You’re a Jewish extremist, supporter of Israel, so you want to bias anyone who criticizes Zionism.

BLITZER: Well, do you hate Jews?

DUKE: No, I don’t. Do you hate people who don’t want to be controlled? Do you hate Americans who don’t want the Israeli lobby to have Americans fight and die and thousands maimed because Israel wants it in the Middle East? We have a war in Iraq because Israel wanted that war, not for American interests.

They lied to us about weapons of mass destruction, and now they’re trying to get America into war against Iran, and I think it would be a tragedy for this country, a tragedy for the world. And you don’t like what I say against Zionism so you want to talk about the Ku Klux Klan rather than the issues facing the world…

BLITZER: Do you…

DUKE: … the terrorism of the Israel state for instance.

BLITZER: Do you believe, Mr. Duke, that there was a Holocaust?

DUKE: I’m sorry? I believe, sir, that the only way we can know whether there was a Holocaust or the nature of it is freedom of speech. I don’t think we should be locking people in prison in Europe, even elderly people in their 80s, because they dare to have a different opinion about an historical event.

The American government shouldn’t be saying that the Iran conference — the Iran conference was a conference for freedom of speech. I heard many mainstream Holocaust speakers at this conference, many. This conference allowed freedom of speech on the issue.

The American government and Tony Blair and George Bush should be saying its a disgrace that David Irving, a worldwide historian with books in almost every library in the world, is in prison right now in Austria because he said something the Zionists don’t like about the Second World War.

BLITZER: Do believe in a two state solution to the Israeli- Palestinian conflict, a new state of Palestine living side by side with the state of Israel?

DUKE: I think that’s probably the best solution. I think you have to ask the people who live there, of both Israel and the Arab countries. But I know one thing. You can’t impose a solution from the Zionist’s domination of American foreign policy.

Perle and people like Wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmser, Kristol, Abrams — we can go on and on. It sounds like a Jewish wedding. They have set American policy and they have hurt American interests in the Middle East. Just as I have said for years, as Walt and Mearsheimer of Harvard have said, it’s a fact. And we are dying right now in Iraq because we’re there for Israel’s interests. We’ve gotten no oil out of this war. I said — I went around the world, around the country before this war, and said there were no weapons of mass destruction.

BLITZER: Well, let me interrupt for a moment, Mr. Duke. As far as I know, the president of the United States, who is the commander in chief, is not Jewish. The vice president of the United States is not Jewish. The secretary of defense is not Jewish. The national security advisor to the president, not Jewish. The director of the CIA, not Jewish. Are these people simply tools of the Zionist conspiracy?

DUKE: They’re not tools of a conspiracy, but they are definitely tools of the Zionist media and political power. Even the “Washington Post” said that 60 percent of the contributions for the Republican Party come from Jewish sources. Plus, if any politician in America dares to criticize Israel, millions will go to his opponents and he will be attacked in the media where Zionists have incredible power.

Even the “Jewish Chronicle,” the “Jewish Los Angeles Times” — excuse me, not the “Los Angeles Times,” the “Jewish Times of Los Angeles” stated that four of the five conglomerates of — the largest media conglomerates are owned by Jews, and the fifth is even more pro- Israel than some of those conglomerates. We have a controlled media in the United States, and that’s why we’re not hearing the truth about this conference.

This conference is about the fact that there must be freedom of speech. And this is insane that people are being criticized. This conference is being criticized when there are people in prison right now for freedom of their conscience.

BLITZER: If there’s a controlled…

DUKE: Now, if you think that David Irving should be in prison right now in Austria — I’m asking you a question, sir.

BLITZER: Well, I’m the one who asks the questions in these interviews…

DUKE: Do you think David Irving should be in prison in Austria for voicing an opinion?

BLITZER: … and we invited you on. And the question is…

DUKE: Exactly.

BLITZER: … if we invited you on, why is there a Zionist conspiracy if we’re letting you on television right now? How do you explain that?

DUKE: How do I explain that? I think that you can’t affect the news. You’ve got — I think you have to put some spin on what’s happening in Iran.

BLITZER: But we didn’t have to invite you on CNN.

DUKE: And you want to — it’s an attack mode, always an attack mode when people like myself come on there. But you thought you could handle me with your 11 connotations of the Ku Klux Klan.

BLITZER: All right, let me…

DUKE: But you know something? You can’t handle me, and you can’t handle the truth, and the fact is, you are an agent of Zionism. You work for AIPAC…

BLITZER: Listen — all right. Listen.

DUKE: … the lobby in this country that controls Israeli policy.

BLITZER: Listen, Mr. Duke…

DUKE: You’re not an honest broken on television.

BLITZER: … I am going to read to you what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said…

DUKE: You’re an Israeli agent.

BLITZER: All right. I’m going to read to you what Mr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran, has said and then you can respond if you agree of disagree with him. “Israel must be wiped off the map and, God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism.”

That’s what he said on October 28th, 2005, according to Al- Jazeera.

DUKE: All right, first off, that’s a complete misquote. He never said wipe off the map, and he was talking about the Zionist control of the United States. In fact, I heard his last speech, and I read articles all over the world where he said Israel will be wiped off the map.

He said Israel would have a change in government just as the Soviet Union changed. Obviously, the Russian people weren’t killed. Israel wasn’t wiped out, and this was to garner hatred against Iran to support the Holocaust and maybe the nuclear strike against Iran.

BLITZER: Well, what about when he says we “shall experience a world” — when he says we should “soon experience a world without the United States”?

DUKE: I’m sorry, sir. I couldn’t hear you.

BLITZER: When he says we should “soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism.”

DUKE: I know what the translation was. He was referring to the control — Israel uses the United States as its proxy. They use the — at Mahatmir (ph) said from Malaysia, Israel is able to dominate our policy through their money, through their media control, and they’re leading us to disaster.

Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz he were the formulators of the Iraq war. Pearl, Wurmser and Feith wrote a paper for Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel calling for war against Iraq, Iran, and Syria. And that’s exactly what we did. They made up the lice of weapons of mass destruction because Americans were not willing to die in thousands and spend billions of dollars for Israel’s strategic objectives. That’s the reality.

BLITZER: David Duke, we have to leave it there.

DUKE: And there are so many lies that are going on right now.

BLITZER: The satellite is about to go down. So we have to leave it right there. But you’re in Tehran.

DUKE: Well, people can find information at DavidDuke.com — DavidDuke.com.

BLITZER: I’m sure they’ll have plenty of opportunities to hear what you have to say. That’s it. David Duke joining us from Iran.


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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:39 pm)

Wow. A major Fox news story.

What a lying hit piece.

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This Youtube clip is incredible. Because they planned to skewer Duke on National T.V, but Duke is such a good communicator, and put so much taboo-truth back in Blitzer's face that I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen so much truth mentioned on CNN in my life.

And ultimately what Duke is saying helps black and brown people, since there's a lot of minorities in the military in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are getting killed there, and here's a voice that shows the lies of why they're there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2f-WC4cjo

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Postby Barrington James » 1 decade 2 years ago (Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:51 pm)

I have seen the two interviews with David Duke and in my opinion he was excellent. I certainly can't be easy taking on super aggressive professional interviewers on TV, in their own backyard so to speak, and yet he won both debates. Obviously the powers that be thought they could make him look like either a fool or a racist or both and they couldn’t do it. He kept his cool and made some very good points. Points that we all know about of course but he made them under tremendous pressure, not in a letter. He also didn't put himself in a position to be arrested or shipped to a puppet state like Germany for imprisonment. He was cool, clever and brave.
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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:30 pm)

10) BBC

David Duke Formed the Klan


(Gee. And I thought the Klan was formed after the Civil War in 1865 and had a resurgence in the early 1920's.)

Here's a BBC web article. The link to it, was on the main page of the BBC website on 12/16/6, so if one went to bbc.co.uk on 12/16/6 there one could see "Conference of hate" with the sub headline "Iran's empty claim to champion freedom of speech over Holocaust" and a picture of Ahmadinejad.

The article was then called "Where Holocaust denial is welcomed" By Frances Harrison

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/f ... 183061.stm

Here we see a picture of David Duke and the caption is "David Duke formed the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan"

And then it repeats that same thing in the article. It says
He formed the National Association for the Advancement of White People, not to mention the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.


So here's BBC, the most respected news organization in the world with England's brightest minds working as fact-checkers, stating that David Duke FORMED the Klan.

And if you want to talk about the subject of Duke and the Klan, What BBC doesn't tell you is that when Duke became head of the Klan in the mid-1970's he turned it away from violence.

None of the BBC articles ever tried to describe the position of any revisionist, or any Neturai Karta member. No media I ever saw tried to do that. Case in point is Harrison in this article describing a French revisionist whose name she never even mentions.

In the first image, see the BBC's "hate" spin on the conference, bottom right, then in the second image, see where it says Duke founded the KKK:

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Postby Flavian Greece » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:05 pm)

He should have not been there... it was very bad for us and for Iran.

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Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 1 decade 2 years ago (Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:06 am)

Well discussing Duke probably gets outside the scope of the forum, but suffice it to say that everything we know about him from the media, needs to be questioned. I did do some inquiring, even hearing a speech or two of his on youtube, and he states he's not a white supremist.


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