'holocaust' Hist. Project's Zimmerman - more deception

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:20 pm)

We're not talking about Dachau.


But I had already mentioned that Sergey. But you seem to have not noticed that there are a selection of ovens from different camps on this thread, (Including Auschwitz). And they are all BASICALLY THE SAME SIZE.

What is the exact size of the oven Tauber was talking about?


You tell me pal ! It could not have been any from this little selection.

So can you now show us this 'Supersonic oven' ?

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Postby SergeyRomanov » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:07 pm)

Sorry, you haven't documented your claims.

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Postby SergeyRomanov » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:19 pm)

Mattogno turns the tables on Zimmerman and Fleming as Mattogno cites Fleming's translation of the Soviet interrogation, and Zimmerman uses the same Fleming translation, but Zimmerman omits the damning lines.


Which are not damning at all. Although it is admittedly harder to spot this in Fleming's version. But hey! Mattogno had the Russian original, yet he persisted in his delusion! So even if Zimmerman was deceptive (he was not) Mattogno was twice so!

Nope, Prufer clearly states damage was caused to the 'ovens'


He does not. If you think otherwise, let's see a quote.

Sergey dares not (cannot) show us an 'oven' he feels could susbtantiate his numbers.


The burden of proof is on you, of course. You don't even know the oven's size.

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:47 pm)

The elusive oven he is talking of must still exist, so just bloody show us it ?

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:52 pm)

I get it, you say Fleming is untrustworthy, and Zimmerman cites Fleming, but Zimmerman is not untustworthy. I'm afraid your logic is lacking, Sergey.

You have not demonstrated that the Russian text changes anything, only allege it.

Sergey, I have shown you the quote repeatedly. Prufer says the ovens were damaged, but you now deny it. You seem to lack sincerity in our debate.

Ah yes, you dodge the request to show us an oven which could easily accomodate multiple corpses per cremation, yet you claim (therefore the onus is upon you....simple logic, Sergey) it to be true. We have shown ovens from various camps including Auschwitz which clearly could not do have done what you allege. Where is this phantom oven, Sergey? Show it now.

This is the typical dodging of request for evidence. Provide us with an example of the ovens you claim or stop referring to them in this thread.

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