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"Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Ajax » 8 years 11 months ago (Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:05 am)

Over the years I have stumbled across a litany of Holocau$t stories - encountering the usual red herrings, physically impossible scenarios and legendary tall tales. But the story of Henry (Herschel) Sperling related in this article has just left me breathless. Not content to play with one of the many fantastic myths, this fellow has decided to make hay with all of them. A tour around the Nazi leisure facilities. A last-minute reprieve from one of the infamous "Gaskammers" of Treblinka. Encounters with (not named) Kurt Franz and his infamous ball-munching pooch Barry. An escape with a hoard of diamonds. Being sent to Auschwitz and getting away with masquerading as a Pole.

Then the cherry on top, a meeting with history's most infamous personality... Josef Mengele.

For how long do we have to put up with being force-fed this rubbish? And at what point will people start realising that they are being sold a story that belongs alongside Jack and the Beanstalk and Rapunzel?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... t-him.html

Here's the article:

He was just another down-and out, one of the winos who routinely slept out on the perilous granite piers and iron girders of the railway bridge spanning the Clyde in the centre of Glasgow.

There was a possibility that, befuddled by whisky, he accidentally tumbled into the waters swirling below - that he didn't intend to die.

But the more likely scenario was that he had deliberately jumped from his grim perch. Either way, when he was hauled out of the river, the grey-haired old man was dead.

At one level, Henry Sperling's suicide was not surprising, and explicable. His devoted wife had died and he had let himself go. He wouldn't look after himself, he drank too much and he wouldn't let anyone help him - not even the two sons who loved him and had reported him missing days before his death.

But there was something deeply puzzling about his death, because Sperling, a Polish Jew, was a survivor by nature who had endured unspeakable horrors.

As a teenager, he had been an inmate of not just one, but seven Nazi concentration camps - including the horrific extermination complexes of Treblinka and Auschwitz, where two million men, women and children were gassed and incinerated.

He lived in hell for years and came alive through the very worst of the Holocaust. Yet, 44 years after his ordeal miraculously ended in liberation and a new life, he could take no more.

He had witnessed the extremes of man's inhumanity. For all his efforts to leave the past behind, the memories of slaughter would never release their grip.

As 62-year-old Hershl Sperling - his real name - sank beneath the murky waters of the Clyde in September 1989, the death camp of Treblinka claimed its final victim.

His story has now been told in a remarkable and moving new book by Mark Smith, who lived round the corner from Sperling in Glasgow and was a close friend of his sons.

He knew him as a cheery, slightly crazy figure, his eyes full of mischief. The number tattooed on his arm was a visible sign of what he had endured but, though his eyes were often moistened with tears and he sometimes howled in his sleep, he seemed to have dealt with the horrors of his past.

Only after his death, when Smith began to piece together the details of Sperling's past, did he come to realise that he was haunted and tormented every day of his life - and for very good reason. His story was one of unremitting horror from the day the Germans overran Poland in 1939 and began their systematic elimination of the country's Jews.

He and his family were among 50,000 Jews confined in the squalid ghetto at a town called Czestochowa until, in September 1942, SS troops drove them en masse to the railway to be herded like cattle into trucks.

They were told they were to be re-settled in the east, but most realised this was a lie. They duly arrived at Treblinka - its pretty station with a clock and fake ticket window a cover for its barbarity.
'New transports arrive all the time. On average, 10,000 people per day are murdered. There was one day when the human transport reached 24,000.'

Within 90 minutes, after being stripped of possessions, clothes and all human dignity, they were prodded naked down what the SS laughingly called Himmelstrasse - 'the road to heaven' - to the 'showers'.

Just before he reached the door of one of the camp's ten gas chambers, a hand reached out and grabbed 15-year- old Sperling, pulling him roughly to one side while the rest, his own family among them, stumbled onwards to their deaths.

He was one of 30 men out of the thousands in his batch selected to join the Sonderkommando, slave squads of prisoners who kept the wheels of the gruesome machine turning.

'For the meantime, we are safe,' he noted in the 20-page testimony he wrote shortly after the war, a crucial, long-lost document which Smith uncovered and used as the basis of his book.

'Crucial' because Treblinka, which had opened just two months earlier, so thoroughly fulfilled its purpose as a death camp that very few witnesses survived to tell its awful tale - just 60 or so out of close to a million victims.

Almost all the Sonderkommando perished, too, once they had outlived their usefulness in disposing of corpses or, in Sperling's case, sorting the vast piles of clothes, watches, gold, hair and all the other incidental detritus of mass-murder.

'Death is constantly before our eyes,' he wrote. 'New transports arrive all the time. On average, 10,000 people per day are murdered. There was one day when the human transport reached 24,000.'

As if this industrial-scale slaughter was not bad enough, those who ran the genocidal camp indulged in unfathomable sadism.

One SS officer delighted in choosing children from the newly arrived transports and splitting their heads with a spade, Sperling recalled. Another liked to beat prisoners to death with a riding crop. The deputy camp commander would unleash his ferocious dog, called Barry, to tear off their testicles.

For 10 months, the young man worked hard, learning quickly not to draw attention to himself.

He never lost the skill of becoming invisible.

'He was always capable of being inconspicuous,' his son Sam recalled.

But, with hangings and shootings of the 1,000-strong slave force for the smallest of infractions, or just on a whim, his life always hung by a thread - and always at the price of his conscience as he connived with the oppressor in the killing of his own people.

Sometimes, he envied the dead that their suffering was over - but the desire to live was stronger.

As time went by, he came to realise, as did many of the other Sonderkommando, that they too were doomed.

The number of transports was falling. Treblinka's murderous job was almost done. But the Germans were not about to leave witnesses behind. The Sonderkommando's only hope of avoiding the same fate as the victims was to fight back.

In great secrecy and in constant danger of discovery, an uprising and escape were planned.

Prisoners in the workshops sharpened knives and axes. A duplicate key was made for the door of the German weapons store and two boxes of hand grenades and 37 rifles and pistols were spirited away.

The break-out from Treblinka on the afternoon of August 2, 1943, was an astonishing event. There had been small rebellions and attempted escapes before, punished with extreme cruelty, but nothing as organised or on this scale.

That morning, an inmate with a spray for disinfecting the huts filled it with stolen petrol instead. Others made up Molotov cocktails. The small cache of weapons was distributed by handcart, hidden under potatoes or rubbish.

The agreed password was an affirmation of their determination. 'Death,' the man handing them out would whisper. 'Life,' the recipient would reply as he quickly smuggled a gun or grenade out of sight.

As the hour for the uprising approached, tension was at fever-pitch.

But with the first shot - fired 45 minutes earlier than intended after a known informer was seen blabbing to an SS commander - the 800 inmates poured out of their workshops and, armed with whatever they could lay their hands on, rushed the SS barracks and set them alight.

As they swarmed through the camp, many were cut down by rifle fire from the watchtowers - but the rest fought on with all the courage of men with nothing to lose.

'The Jews remain firm,' Sperling wrote proudly in his account.

'They throw hand grenades and position their machine guns.'

Two of the inmates seized an armoured truck with a machine gun mounted on the back and turned it on the guards.
'The sound of dogs, gunfire and screams echoed through the forest as 200 escapers were tracked down and butchered.'

Before they themselves were killed, they managed to switch their aim to a petrol dump, which exploded in flames. Clouds of black smoke filled the sky. The block of gas chambers went up in flames, too.

There were many acts of heroism and self-sacrifice that day as the leaders of the revolt ran among the prisoners, rallying them to keep fighting in the hope that some at least would get away.

One lay on a roof sniping at the SS with a rifle. With each shot, he was heard calling: 'This for my wife and my child who never saw the world!'

His pregnant wife had gone to the gas chamber 10 months earlier.

Those who made it to the fence hacked a way out and dashed for the forest. But many got snagged and were mercilessly gunned down as they struggled to free themselves.

The fighting went on for two hours, leaving 400 prisoners dead. But almost as many got away. Sperling was one of them, running furiously with a small group of friends into the cover of the trees.

He ran without stopping for three hours, his hand gripping a small sack of diamonds and gold coins he had accumulated during his work - essential if he was to have any chance of getting to the safety of Switzerland.

Meanwhile, having retaken control of the camp, the SS launched a manhunt. The sound of dogs, gunfire and screams echoed through the forest as 200 escapers were tracked down and butchered. Sperling hid high in a tree until nightfall and then continued his flight.
Free: Photograph shows some of the prisoners who survived the Auschwitz death camp in Poland - some 7,000 prisoners were still alive when the camp was liberated

Free: Some of the prisoners who survived the Auschwitz death camp in Poland - some 7,000 prisoners were still alive when the camp was liberated

After five days on the run, he took a chance, bought a train ticket and made it to Warsaw. From there he attempted to travel on, but was arrested two days later.

He was not identified as a Treblinka escaper - which would have cost him his life - but taken first to a penal camp and then, on October 2, to Auschwitz, where, for some unknown reason, the records described him not as Jewish but as a Pole.

It was a distinction that kept him alive.

Years later, he would bewilder family, friends and therapists who treated him by insisting that 'Auschwitz was nothing, a walk in the park'. It sounded unhinged - except to someone who had experienced Treblinka.

As prisoner 154356 in Auschwitz, he committed an infraction that had him sent to the punishment block at nearby Birkenau.

On his return to Auschwitz, he was assigned to Josef Mengele's special work detail, known as 'the zoo', where the doctor was carrying out gruesome medical experiments on human guinea pigs, including castration.

Friends suffered this fate, but Sperling was lucky - he was inspected by the mad doctor more than once, but not selected. His 'invisibility' had saved him.

After a year at Auschwitz, he was transferred to another concentration camp, Sachsenhausen, and then another, Kaufering, as a slave labourer, before being marched to Dachau in April 1945 ahead of the advancing Allied forces.
Treblinka survivor: The life and death of Hershl Sperling

It was there, malnourished, exhausted and suffering from typhoid, that he was liberated by the Americans shortly after his 18th birthday.

But where to go? He spent time in a camp for dispossessed persons, making a living dealing on the black market. Two years later, he turned up in Glasgow at the home of a distant relation his mother had once told him about.

A new life began, which he shared with his wife, Yaja, another Holocaust survivor, whom he met by chance on a railway platform in Czechoslovakia when the two of them were caught up in the chaos following the end of the war.

A new life it was, but rarely a settled one.

He went from job to job. The family moved to Israel, but that didn't work out either. He tried a spell in Canada, with the same result.

Sperling was doomed, says author Mark Smith, 'to taste and smell the evil he had seen for the rest of his life'. Not for him the serenity of the survivor, but a never-ending nightmare.

His behaviour was often bizarre. He would put himself at risk, driving at high speed with no hands on the steering wheel.

He shoplifted. He was volatile and unpredictable, 'like sitting on top of a volcano', according to his son Sam.

He had a nervous breakdown and was treated with electroconvulsive therapy. But not even that could erase the memories.

'Even when he was calm, he was disturbed,' said his other son, Alan.

'We would be watching television, something entirely unrelated to his experiences, and he would turn and say: "You know, I still can't believe what happened to me." '

In the Sixties, his sons believe he made a secret pilgrimage to Treblinka to pay his respects and to say sorry to the people he could not save.

But peace of mind still eluded him. Yaja was the only one who could soothe him, and her death from cancer was a terrible blow. He took to his bed with cocktails of whisky and valium.

He had a heart attack. He made numerous suicide attempts and had his stomach pumped five times after overdosing.

He began to disappear inside his own head. He wanted to die.

'This is worse than Treblinka,' he whispered one day. Sam Sperling believes that what drained his father of hope - the spark that had kept him going through the camps - was when, in a lucid interval, he saw the film The Killing Fields about the slaughter of millions of Cambodians under Pol Pot's communist dictatorship.

He was deeply moved by it. From the age of 15 he had seen first hand how truly terrible and murderous the human race could be.

The film showed that nothing had changed. The unspeakable evil that Treblinka stood for was still with us. His final solution lay in the beckoning waters of the Clyde.
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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby David Baker » 8 years 11 months ago (Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:58 am)

Ajax, it is not without some irony that these 'witnesses' avoid testifying under oath in a court of law. They do project the image of victimization with a palor of unending persecution, along with a good tale to justify their never-diminished zeal for "reparations", and German contrition. Once the Holocaust is dragged into a venue where cross-examination of witnesses and scientific application is applied, the entire fairytale is rendered ridiculous. THAT is why I am trying valiantly to obtain SMOKING GUN evidence of the Holocaust. Actual photos or movies of the gas chambers in use gassing Jews would be a splendid exhibit. Actual autopsies performed on the bodies of Jewish gassing victims would be useful. Until that evidence is furnished, we can safely predict that revisionism will prevail over any "Survivor's" memoir.

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Ajax » 8 years 10 months ago (Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:09 pm)

The problem David is that people still buy into this nonsense.

As much as revisionists fight the good fight with logic and reason, it will always be akin to banging one's head against a brick wall so long as the press continues to feed the beast. I really don't trust the public much either - if they can spend their days taking in all of the rest of the rubbish being shown on the gogglebox, they'll happily to continue to keep swallowing nonsense about the Hollow-co$t.

The terrifying thing is that this story was able to make its way past an editor - someone who should know better, no matter what side of the fence they sit on this issue.
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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby gbrecht » 8 years 10 months ago (Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:30 pm)

Our world is one very odd place.

Question, was there really a road named Himmelstrasse in Treblinka? Odd name, is it supposed to mean sky street or heaven street?

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Postby Ajax » 8 years 10 months ago (Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:19 pm)

It's often described as the "road to heaven"... Those fellows clearly had a peculiarly Jewish sense of humour.
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Postby Thesaint » 8 years 10 months ago (Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:41 am)

Two of the inmates seized an armoured truck with a machine gun mounted on the back and turned it on the guards.


One lay on a roof sniping at the SS with a rifle. With each shot, he was heard calling: 'This for my wife and my child who never saw the world!'


He,he.
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His final solution lay in the beckoning waters of the Clyde


Yes,many Scottish drinkers have suffered the same fate throughout history,but they were just worthless gullible goy and not in the same league as this jewish superhero
He never lost the skill of becoming invisible.
fallen on hard times.

The Daily Mail takes judeo-centric yellow journalism to ever greater heights,even as their readership dwindles............
"We didn't call survivors," says Lipstadt, "because first of all we didn't want to subject them to cross-examination by this guy. He (Irving) would have destroyed them."
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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 8 years 10 months ago (Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:23 am)

Few days ago I borrowed another book about Treblinka from or local library.
Like many times before this witness did mentioned anything about his experiences for 40 years.
And then he decided to tell all:)

Unfortunately he did bother to check some facts and in a book published for the first time in 1989 he is still telling us about the diesel engine from the soviet tank:)
Doesn't he know that it is the old news?:)

"Surviving Treblinka" by SAMUEL WILLENBERG is a gold mine of the holo-crap at it's best.
Here is only one of hundreds examples from this holo-masterpiece.

page 59.
"Thirteen gas chambers are at work in the Todeslager now.
Ivan,the Ukrainian guard takes out his horsemen sword and hacks to bit anyone who tries to resist at entrance.
He amputates hands and slices up the bodies of the naked people;he tears infants out of their mothers' arms and rips them in half.
Sometimes he grabs them by legs and smashes their heads against the wall.The guards set specially trained dogs on defenseless ,naked people ;they bite and tear chunks out of their flesh.This is how they pack about 400 people into each gas chamber.
A DIESEL MOTOR FROM A SOVIET TANK is started up,producing BURNING GAS which is piped in to the chambers.
The man in charge of the motor is Ivan,the same brute who stuffed everyone in the gas chambers in the first place..
Forty minutes later we open the door at the back end of the gas chambers to take the corpses out.
They are still warm.
They are all crushed in to one great mass of meat and we 've got to pull them apart.
We throw them on the ground and then it is a turn of the prisoners known as the "dentist" who pull the golden teeth out of the corpses mouths.
After the gold hunt we load the corpses onto stretchers (...)
we dump them in to a giant pits where they are stacked in layers -with a layer of chlorine on each layer of corpses.
A little later the ground covering the pits begins to shake FROM EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY FERMENTING BODIES.
The SS men amuse themselves by throwing the working prisoners in to the burial pits ,WHERE THEY SINK INTO THE MUSH OF THE DECOMPOSING,ROTTING FLESH."

I highly recommend this next holo bullshit .

Least but not last let me share with you the words from a website of Emory university which I published yesterday in my forum:

"Only Gasoline Engines Would Run Dirty Enough to Kill"

CLAIM: As the result of the work of Friedrich Berg, an American Holocaust denier, the "holocaust pundits" are "desperate" because they have "precious little" evidence regarding the murder of 1.5 million Jews in the Operation Reinhardt camps using diesel engine exhaust.

RESPONSE: What the Holocaust deniers decry as the "holocaust specialists" changing their story in the middle of the stream in response to the challenges of the Holocaust deniers, is simply the normal and necessary correction of the historical record as more accurate information becomes available."

http://www.hdot.org/en/learning/myth-fact#diesel

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Ajax » 8 years 10 months ago (Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:46 pm)

Interesting post Jerzy.

Although Auschwitz throws out its barrel load of contradictions, obvious falsehoods and red herrings, I think the lesser-known Reinhard camps are better material for digging out genuine hardcore Hollowcrap. It's just hilarious how these new "survivor memoirs" include the same old guff, often including stories that have long since been debunked.

The funniest repeated tale is that of the mysterious Barry (or sometimes Bari or Barri), the magical ball-munching St. Bernard (well, according to some "reports" - others cite him as being a German Shepherd). It doesn't cease to amuse me.
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Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 8 years 8 months ago (Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:17 am)

Nazi Holocaust Gas Chamber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sUNw2DEtEg

Warning:the sound is original and could offend some listeners.

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Friedrich Paul Berg » 8 years 8 months ago (Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:51 am)

I am grateful to the posters on this thread for bringing the material from Emory University to my attention. What follows here is just Emory's portion about "diesel exhaust:"

Diesel Exhaust

Diesel Exhaust Contains Too Much Oxygen to Kill via Asphyxiation

CLAIM: Diesel engine exhaust contains 18% oxygen so that a human being cannot die from asphyxiation from exposure to the fumes.

RESPONSE: The key to the ability to kill a person with diesel engine exhaust is that, in addition to flooding the atmosphere with a soup of toxic gases including carbon monoxide, it robs the atmosphere of oxygen. The very study deniers cite as proof that diesel engine exhaust always contains 18% oxygen, shows the exact opposite is possible if the engine is run just slightly outside the manufacturer’s specifications. Berg distorts, manipulates and omits evidence to arrive at his foregone conclusion that diesel engine exhaust cannot kill people.

Diesel Engines Simply Were Not Appropriate Murder Devices

CLAIM: The idea of having used diesel engine exhaust to murder 1.5 million Jews in the gas vans and the gas chambers of the three death camps of Operation Reinhard in southeastern Poland is "idiotic" and "simply incredible."

RESPONSE: Carbon monoxide is deadly in very small concentrations-as little as 4/10 of one percent (0.4%) or 4,000 parts in 1,000,000. Although diesel engines do produce less carbon monoxide in their exhaust than do gasoline engines, they are equally as deadly as we will see in Part 2 of this series.

Germans Would Have Used Producer Gas Rather than Diesel Engines

CLAIM: The Germans would have used "producer gas" engines to murder people in the gas chambers and gas vans since they produce much more carbon monoxide in their exhaust than do diesel engines.

RESPONSE: In practice, producer gas engines or generators were too dangerous and ultimately less efficient than using readily available and easily-used gasoline or diesel engines. It does not follow that because the Germans chose to use gasoline or diesel engines and not producer gas engines or generators that the murder of some 1.5 million Jews never happened.

Only Gasoline Engines Would Run Dirty Enough to Kill

CLAIM: As the result of the work of Friedrich Berg, an American Holocaust denier, the "holocaust pundits" are "desperate" because they have "precious little" evidence regarding the murder of 1.5 million Jews in the Operation Reinhard camps using diesel engine exhaust.

RESPONSE: What the Holocaust deniers decry as the "holocaust specialists" changing their story in the middle of the stream in response to the challenges of the Holocaust deniers, is simply the normal and necessary correction of the historical record as more accurate information becomes available.

Smoke And Soot Can't Kill

CLAIM: The black smoke and soot in diesel exhaust, according to Friedrich Berg, an American Holocaust denier, would have ". . . annoyed the hell out of any group of intended victims, but would have given them nothing worse than a headache."

RESPONSE: The heavy smoke and soot in diesel engine exhaust can kill. While it is highly unlikely that smoke and soot would have been the sole cause of death in the gas vans and gas chambers it could have been a contributing factor taken together with the carbon monoxide, lack of oxygen, and several other toxic gases in diesel exhaust.

There is Not Enough Carbon Monoxide In Diesel Exhaust To Kill

CLAIM:Diesel engine exhaust "always" contains "less than 1% carbon monoxide."

RESPONSE: A diesel engine can easily be mistuned to produce a lethal amount of carbon monoxide.


The "responses" from the folks at Emory University where Deborah Lispstadt reaches are so bad that I doubt their sanity. I have provided valid answers to all of the above "responses" on my website and elsewhere, again and again, but I will, no doubt, have to go through all the issues again since I continue to be confronted by them. The exterminationists are quite desperate and know full well that they are in a corner, trapped and that their only next step is to admit defeat. The "claims" above are often gross distortions of my arguments and claims.

One member of what is essentially a small group of "holocaust denial refuters" is Roberto Muehlenkamp who seems to be connected with "Holocaust Controversies." That group has been backing away from the "diesel claims" and suggests that it might have been gasoline exhaust instead but that it does not matter since both methods would have been OK for mass gassings. The problem for the gasoline exhaust theory is that the corpses with few exceptions would have been a very dramatic RED in appearance already at the moment of death, and even before death. The holocaust claims that the corpses were BLUE instead really is a monumental, even decisive flaw in the entire holocaust mythology and so--some of the exterminationists fight as hard as they possibly can on this issue. For them, it is an existential issue and they are reduced to grasping at straws. It is crucial because every "witness" to such alleged gassings except one, Dr. Leidig, claimed the corpses were either "BLUE" or "bluish" or unremarkable in color. Dr. Leidig testified about an alleged experimental gassing in Sachsenhausen resulting in RED corpses--but, not at any of the alleged "extermination camps"

The leader on the color issue for the exterminationists is Muehlenkamp. He is definitely a nut case with whom I have debated informally many times on RODOH and elsewhere. For example, he insists that any reddish coloring would have ONLY appeared l-o-n-g after death had occurred based on the meaning of the words: livor mortis. That is the most thoroughly insane piece of pseudo-scientific, hare-brained gibberish I have seen since Charles Provan published his gibberish about "Blue Coloring...." Muehlenkamp's arguments against me regarding CO killings are summarized by him, quite well I think, in the following paragraphs which I have already taken the trouble to make available through my website:
http://nazigassings.com/MuehlenkampREDandBLUE.html

I will provide a more succinct rehash of the issues and arguments soon. A public radio "debate" that he and I had agreed to having is unlikely. Muehlenkamp and the others deserve credit for daring to respond to revisionist arguments rather than simply trying to ignore or dismiss us as unworthy. The earlier strategy of simply ignoring us and hoping that we simply go away, or fade away, has clearly failed--and they know it. We are still here and our numbers are growing every day. The "Holocaust Controversies" crowd including Muehlenkamp are actually useful to the revisionist cause since that they do scour the "evidence" from trials and elsewhere for every scrap that might support the holocaust thesis. They ultimately work very hard for us as proofreaders. Their efforts to "crush" us fall because they really are fundamentally wrong. The "holocaust" really is a HOAX!

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The Holocaust story is a hoax because 1) no one was killed by the Nazis in gas chambers, 2) the total number of Jews who died in Nazi captivity is miniscule compared to what is alleged.

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 8 years 8 months ago (Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:19 am)

Friedrich.
People from the Emory planet hope that the reader will believe the "university' scientists without any doubt.
In another place in this forum I copied a challenge addressed to M-me LIPSTADT.
Enough is enough.Who said that THEY can insult me every day with their madness and I can't defend my sanity.
I can.And I have a right to do so.

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by Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 19 Oct 2010 11:41 pm

Copy of the letter I send to a D.Lipstadt.
In case it will not be published on her blog:)

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek

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Dear Madame
My name is Jerzy Ulicki-Rek and I'm 56 years old Polish-Australian.
After studying the "holocaust' for almost 25 years I do not have ANY doubts
that the official version (6 millions,gas chambers,electric chambers,vacuum
chambers etc0 is nothing else but a pile of lies.
looking for the new informations I forced myself to read a book "Denying the
holocaust' written by You.

The number of lies you produced between the covers is fantastic.
Some of them (as I stated in e letter to the university which pays you
wages) are absolutely fantastic and even the very official Museum in
Oswiecim is very reluctant to confirm you words:)
In fact they refuse to comment on your revelations To refute all the lies
will take a long time and maybe another book.
Now only one of you creations:

On the page 115 you wrote:

"Harwood contended that the report made "nonsense" of the allegation that
there were "gas chambers' cunningly disguised as shower facilities".
He substantiated this assertion by quoting a passage from the report (IRC
report published in 1948-Jerzy) that depicted how ICRC officials inspected
baths and showers in the camps.
When they found problems they acted swiftly "to have fixtures made less
primitive and to have them repaired or enlarged".
This Harwood argued ,demonstrated conclusively that showers functioned as
showers ,however primitive,and not as killing apparatus.
The problem with Harwood choice of this citation ,which he quoted correctly
,IS THAT THE PASSAGE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS :IT
REFERRED TO ALLIED CAMPS FOR CIVILIAN INTERNEES IN EGYPT."
End cite.

No Madame.
You are presenting us with another lie.

I am VERY familiar with the IRC report.
Those words are in relation to a concentration camp.
Please do not insult me any more.

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 8 years 8 months ago (Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:55 am)

How to peddle the myth of "diesel gas chambers' at the same time preparing another scam? Emory will show you :)
Just like that:

"Diesel can KILL YOU:)Another Jewish scam
by Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 06 Oct 2010 11:48 am

No matter what the science says the new group is going to defend us from diesel fumes
Using the pictures to shock us and pass the message this group of con-men is going to demand the money from government to protect us

Americans.
Another bunch of good for nothing crooks is going to rob you again from another angle...And for you own good of course.
Before you believe please check the REAL scientific work on the diesel fumes .

Once they convince you that the diesel fume are bad (they have been use to kill millions of people during holo-cau$t -correct?) then you will pay through the nose to be protected

Of course the fact that "professor FRUMKIN comes from the same university as DEBORAH LIPSTADT is only coincidental



"CLEAN AIR TASK FORCE" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

"Credits –
Written by: Conrad G. Schneider, Advocacy Director
and L. Bruce Hill, Ph.D., Senior Scientist
Edited by: Maria Padian
Designed by: Jill Bock Design
Printed by: Spectrum Printing & Graphics, Inc.
This report has been printed on recycled (20% post consumer
waste), Processed Chlorine Free (PCF) paper with soy inks.
Acknowledgements –
The John Merck Fund, The Heinz Endowments, The Beldon Fund,
The New York Community Trust, and The Turner Foundation have
provided support for the Clean Air Task Force Diesel Initiative,
including this report. Dana Lowell and Tom Balon of M.J. Bradley
& Associates and David Schoengold of MSB Energy Associates
provided technical support. Patricia Monahan of the Union of
Concerned Scientists provided valuable comments.
18 Tremont Street, Suite 530, Boston, MA 02108
Tel: 617-624-0234 / Fax: 617-624-0230
February 2005

Foreword
Scientists have been examining relationships between air pollution and death and disease for decades
but only now are we beginning to understand the impacts of one of the most toxic sources of emissions
today – the diesel engine. Diesels churn out a hazardous mix of gaseous and particle pollutants. What’s
more, diesel exhaust is emitted at ground level – where
we breathe it – by trucks and buses around us in traffic, at
school and transit bus stops, and by heavy construction or
agricultural equipment. Diesel exhaust contains numerous
dangerous compounds, ranging from respiratory irritants
to carcinogens including a host of air toxics, particulate
matter, carbon monoxide and nitrogen oxides.
While scientists have concluded that combustion related
particulate matter from all combustion sources is
associated with premature death from heart attacks and
cancer, we also are finding that carbon particles from
mobile sources may be particularly unhealthy. These
particles adsorb other metals and toxic gases produced
by diesel engines – such as cancer causing-PAH (polycyclic
aromatic hydrocarbons) – onto their surfaces making them even more dangerous. Furthermore,
research on personal exposures demonstrates that these small particles easily penetrate our indoor
environment where they may be trapped for days when ventilation is poor.
This report presents for the first time estimates of the health toll from diesel vehicle pollution. Using
methodology approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s Science Advisory Board (SAB),
the analysis finds that approximately 21,000 people die prematurely each year due to particulate matter
pollution from diesels. Other serious adverse health impacts include tens of thousands of heart attacks,
asthma attacks, and other respiratory ailments that can lead to days missed at work and at school.
Using more highly time-resolved studies we are increasingly able to understand the inflammation
mechanism by which particles can lead to atherosclerosis, heart attacks, strokes and ultimately, untimely
deaths. From all we know today, we can confidently say that reducing diesel exhaust in our environment
will mean improving public health, and as this report demonstrates, reducing preventable premature
deaths. We do not need to wait. Technology is available today that can reduce particulate matter emissions
by up to 90 percent. Now is the time to clean up our old trucks, buses, heavy equipment and
locomotives to provide a cleaner future for us and our children.

Howard Frumkin,

M.D., Dr.P.H., FACP, FACOEM
Professor and Chair, Department of Environmental and Occupational Health
Emory University, Rollins School of Public Health


http://www.catf.us/resources/publicatio ... merica.pdf


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............
By the way.Digging a lit deeper I found out the professor FRUMKIN who is the author of this SCARE comes from the same factory of professors as Deborah Lipstadt.
She claims the same in relations to "gas chambers" .The discovery of prof. Frumkin will support the "gas chamber' theory of m-me Lipstadt
Yeee.When it comes from Emory it must be the truth :):)
Like anything before...

Jerzy Ulicki-Rek"
............
by Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » 19 Oct 2010 11:37 pm

To:[email protected] <[email protected]>

"I would like to send you few words in relation to a materials you published here:
http://www.catf.us/resources/publicatio ... merica.pdf

I do understand that you are looking for another cow you could milk on the taxpayers expense but not all of us are total uneducated morons (despite the best efforts of 'universities ' like the Emory).
The proper research on toxicity of Diesel fumes has been done decades ago in England .

The aim of the research was very simple one:how safe or not safe is to use the diesel-powered engines in mining ,under ground.
The results; 100 % and much safer then the petrol driven ones.

You could talk as well to Friedrich Paul Berg who is an expert on this subject.

All the arguments you presented in your science -fiction are -at best- half truths if not straight forward lies.

I presume ,apart from ripping of the taxpayers You try at the same time to support one of the "holocau$t' myths by pushing those lies .
It won't work.
The "gas chambers' where the diesel fumes should kill .... (please fill here current number) of Jews are pure fiction.
You actions supported only by "shocking ' pictures belong to the same scientific garbage category.
Please do not insult my intelligence any more."

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby Kingfisher » 8 years 8 months ago (Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:16 pm)

Jerzy,

Please don't send your incoherent babblings to anyone else. You are only helping to bring Revisionism into disrepute.

Of course diesel engine emissions -- especially badly adjusted engines -- contain multiple pollutants which are a health hazard --including carcinogens. But I don't think anyone has suggested that the Germans were trying to kill the Jews slowly with cancer over 30 years!

The issue is the very low content of CO in diesel exhaust, even under load and badly tuned. Friedrich Berg makes the difference clearly and so could any competent motor mechanic.

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Postby Hektor » 8 years 8 months ago (Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:52 am)

Friedrich Paul Berg wrote:I am grateful to the posters on this thread for bringing the material from Emory University to my attention. What follows here is just Emory's portion about "diesel exhaust:"

Diesel Exhaust

Diesel Exhaust Contains Too Much Oxygen to Kill via Asphyxiation

CLAIM: Diesel engine exhaust contains 18% oxygen so that a human being cannot die from asphyxiation from exposure to the fumes.

RESPONSE: The key to the ability to kill a person with diesel engine exhaust is that, in addition to flooding the atmosphere with a soup of toxic gases including carbon monoxide, it robs the atmosphere of oxygen. The very study deniers cite as proof that diesel engine exhaust always contains 18% oxygen, shows the exact opposite is possible if the engine is run just slightly outside the manufacturer’s specifications. Berg distorts, manipulates and omits evidence to arrive at his foregone conclusion that diesel engine exhaust cannot kill people.

Diesel Engines Simply Were Not Appropriate Murder Devices

CLAIM: The idea of having used diesel engine exhaust to murder 1.5 million Jews in the gas vans and the gas chambers of the three death camps of Operation Reinhard in southeastern Poland is "idiotic" and "simply incredible."

RESPONSE: Carbon monoxide is deadly in very small concentrations-as little as 4/10 of one percent (0.4%) or 4,000 parts in 1,000,000. Although diesel engines do produce less carbon monoxide in their exhaust than do gasoline engines, they are equally as deadly as we will see in Part 2 of this series.

Germans Would Have Used Producer Gas Rather than Diesel Engines

CLAIM: The Germans would have used "producer gas" engines to murder people in the gas chambers and gas vans since they produce much more carbon monoxide in their exhaust than do diesel engines.

RESPONSE: In practice, producer gas engines or generators were too dangerous and ultimately less efficient than using readily available and easily-used gasoline or diesel engines. It does not follow that because the Germans chose to use gasoline or diesel engines and not producer gas engines or generators that the murder of some 1.5 million Jews never happened.

Only Gasoline Engines Would Run Dirty Enough to Kill

CLAIM: As the result of the work of Friedrich Berg, an American Holocaust denier, the "holocaust pundits" are "desperate" because they have "precious little" evidence regarding the murder of 1.5 million Jews in the Operation Reinhard camps using diesel engine exhaust.

RESPONSE: What the Holocaust deniers decry as the "holocaust specialists" changing their story in the middle of the stream in response to the challenges of the Holocaust deniers, is simply the normal and necessary correction of the historical record as more accurate information becomes available.

Smoke And Soot Can't Kill

CLAIM: The black smoke and soot in diesel exhaust, according to Friedrich Berg, an American Holocaust denier, would have ". . . annoyed the hell out of any group of intended victims, but would have given them nothing worse than a headache."

RESPONSE: The heavy smoke and soot in diesel engine exhaust can kill. While it is highly unlikely that smoke and soot would have been the sole cause of death in the gas vans and gas chambers it could have been a contributing factor taken together with the carbon monoxide, lack of oxygen, and several other toxic gases in diesel exhaust.

There is Not Enough Carbon Monoxide In Diesel Exhaust To Kill

CLAIM:Diesel engine exhaust "always" contains "less than 1% carbon monoxide."

RESPONSE: A diesel engine can easily be mistuned to produce a lethal amount of carbon monoxide.


The "responses" from the folks at Emory University where Deborah Lispstadt reaches are so bad that I doubt their sanity. I have provided valid answers to all of the above "responses" on my website and elsewhere, again and again, but I will, no doubt, have to go through all the issues again since I continue to be confronted by them. The exterminationists are quite desperate and know full well that they are in a corner, trapped and that their only next step is to admit defeat. The "claims" above are often gross distortions of my arguments and claims.

One member of what is essentially a small group of "holocaust denial refuters" is Roberto Muehlenkamp who seems to be connected with "Holocaust Controversies." That group has been backing away from the "diesel claims" and suggests that it might have been gasoline exhaust instead but that it does not matter since both methods would have been OK for mass gassings. The problem for the gasoline exhaust theory is that the corpses with few exceptions would have been a very dramatic RED in appearance already at the moment of death, and even before death. The holocaust claims that the corpses were BLUE instead really is a monumental, even decisive flaw in the entire holocaust mythology and so--some of the exterminationists fight as hard as they possibly can on this issue. For them, it is an existential issue and they are reduced to grasping at straws. It is crucial because every "witness" to such alleged gassings except one, Dr. Leidig, claimed the corpses were either "BLUE" or "bluish" or unremarkable in color. Dr. Leidig testified about an alleged experimental gassing in Sachsenhausen resulting in RED corpses--but, not at any of the alleged "extermination camps"

The leader on the color issue for the exterminationists is Muehlenkamp. He is definitely a nut case with whom I have debated informally many times on RODOH and elsewhere. For example, he insists that any reddish coloring would have ONLY appeared l-o-n-g after death had occurred based on the meaning of the words: livor mortis. That is the most thoroughly insane piece of pseudo-scientific, hare-brained gibberish I have seen since Charles Provan published his gibberish about "Blue Coloring...." Muehlenkamp's arguments against me regarding CO killings are summarized by him, quite well I think, in the following paragraphs which I have already taken the trouble to make available through my website:
http://nazigassings.com/MuehlenkampREDandBLUE.html

I will provide a more succinct rehash of the issues and arguments soon. A public radio "debate" that he and I had agreed to having is unlikely. Muehlenkamp and the others deserve credit for daring to respond to revisionist arguments rather than simply trying to ignore or dismiss us as unworthy. The earlier strategy of simply ignoring us and hoping that we simply go away, or fade away, has clearly failed--and they know it. We are still here and our numbers are growing every day. The "Holocaust Controversies" crowd including Muehlenkamp are actually useful to the revisionist cause since that they do scour the "evidence" from trials and elsewhere for every scrap that might support the holocaust thesis. They ultimately work very hard for us as proofreaders. Their efforts to "crush" us fall because they really are fundamentally wrong. The "holocaust" really is a HOAX!

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Re: "Last victim of Treblinka"

Postby athenarena » 8 years 7 months ago (Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:39 pm)

Ajax, that story is complete rubbish. Even for a believer, they cannot believe this story. Treblinka is seen by believers -I am a believer but being neutral here- as a death camp. You arrived on the train, you were gassed, your body was burnt and you were thrown into the ground. Ergo nobody survived.

Major holes here. Major holes in this "story" here. I do believe fraudsters do come into this tragedy and this is one of them.

NSNO,
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