athenarena wrote:Hector wrote:
The responsive German boycott of Jewish shops (in April) was to my knowledge the only measure against Jews at that stage. The National Socialists were still busy crushing the Communists.
I have to agree with that point above yours Ray Barren.Ray Barren wrote:
Violence was expressed by SS and SA members against Jews after before and after Nazi rise to power. Dachau camp was established weeks before this letter was supposed to be written. There were laws passed stoping Jews from work in certain professional jobs before this letter. Those working in them were fired. Nazi boycotts of Jewish business before this letter. Much persecution. Jews were killed in the violence acts by Nazi followers. Not planned extermination but individual murder. The Rabbi is hearing scared but slight incorrect representations of 1933 Nazi Germany. Are all writings and letters and newscasts on 11 September event exact in correctness of detail as we see them a decade later?
Yes I know the SS and SA were going around beating up Jews and other "Non-Aryans". Heck Fianna Fail supporters did that to Cummann na nGaedhael (now Fianna Gael) when Fianna Fail was elected here in Ireland during the 1930s because they knew they could get away with it. Same mindframe here.
The only laws that really took away Jewish rights completely were the 1935 Nuremburg Laws which I know are not the ones you mentioned.
As for Dachau, set up in 22 March 1933, it was originally for political prisoners not Jewish prisoners at the time. There was much persecution but there also was much fleeing. Out of 500,000 maybe 1 percent of the German populations tens of thousands of those would flee in the coming months and years.
Hektor is mistaken in saying that Nazis didnt act until after Jewish boycott of Nazi goods. Athenarena you must understand that Nazi policy and actions always had relation to what historian Peter Longerich calls Judenpolitik. There was a focus against political opposition in early weeks but remember that Jewish socialists were attacked most intensely such as in Dachau where some Jews were murdered in early 1933. Here is link naming some names http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Dachauscr ... Life4.html
On laws look at 7 April Professional Civil Service bill which led to many dismissals and firings of Jewish judicial workers. Before this law in early March was passed some courts were invaded by Nazi police and party members and had Jewish judges and prosecutors thrown out of building.
Before Hektors ;Jewish declaration of war' there was the wave of violence in many area of Germany starting in early March. Nazis would protest and decorate in front of Jewish business, prevent Germans from entering stores, which led to fights and attacks on Jewish owners and shoppers. This was local boycotts planned by Nazi groups. Goering and regional Nazi leaders applauded these measures and wanted to prevent police interference. Hitler said to stop these fights in mid-March but not all did. On 25 March SA men humiliated and beat male Jews in Wurttemberg synagogue with couple dead from abuse. I mentioned some other points.
Anti Jewish acts got worse with time but they started bad as well.