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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby mincuo » 7 years 3 months ago (Fri May 11, 2012 5:38 pm)

I haven't hope that you understand Twila, surely for my bad English, anyway:
1) Wiesel hasn't a tattoo on the left arm
2) I am sure that Wiesel hasn't a tattoo anywhere
3) It is known that he hasn't a tattoo clearly from the movies and the photos
4) He said that he had a tattoo
5) The goal is to expose Wiesel I suppose, and I hope for the benefit of Revisionism i.e. the knowledge of the common people, not only for the satisfaction of few Revisionists, beacuse they already know of the ghost tattoo
6) When I speak with a common person he generally doesn't knows of tattoos made at Auschwitz and not in other camps, they don't know what said Wiesel, and many even who is Wiesel, what is the importance of the challenge, what it means.
So a leaflet IMHO had to explain clearly
7) Nazi put the tattoos on the left arm of the prisoners (many don't know)
8 ) Elie Wiesel is the most famous internee in Auschwitz, and he is a Nobel Prize. (Many don't know that)
9) Wiesel said he had a tattoo, like the other prisoners, (Better to repeat for Jane and Joe)
10) Wiesel never showed his tattoo, but he said he has (Better to repeat for Jane and Joe)
11) But if he hasn't the tattoo then he wasn't at Auschwitz. (Better to explain)
12) We challenge Wiesel........

13) He will not answer that's the most probable outcome.
14) He will show a tattoo where he likes better. On the butt, on the shoulder, and so. Then it's a media job.

You, Mr Randall, Carolin Yaeger, Mr Hunt, me, some friend of Codoh will destroy Mr Wiesel. Yes. Where? Here? Among few people? Yes. And all the Joe and Jane in teh world? They haven't even well understood what was that challenge, many don't know who is this Wiesel, what is that tattoo. They will understand very well that there were antisemitc lunatic NeoNazi who molested a holy man, a poor survivor.

In the 13) and 14) case it was better for the real purpose of the challenge to have written 7)8)9)10)11)12) for the common people. This is communication. And this is my last reply to you.
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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby mincuo » 7 years 3 months ago (Fri May 11, 2012 6:25 pm)

And finally I have a question for you Twila.
Do you really believe that everyone who knows History, a Revisionist or a believer, could believe Wiesel?
Even Pierre Vidal Naquet called him many years ago "a merchant of the Shoah"
So what? Was he destroyed? No, he got some USD millions. Why? Because Jane and Joe don't know anything.
Now the challenge is the best IMHO just because it is very simple. There is or not there is the tattoo. Jane and Joe can see that there isn't and what that means, but only if you explain veeeery well. It's a good tool for Revisionism in the sense of the common people understanding, not just for a Revisionist. The Revisionists have better. But difficult for the common people.

The question is: Do you really believe that everyone who knows History, a Revisionist or a believer, could believe Wiesel? So What? Who will you destroy? One already destroyed, among few people. He doesn't care.
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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby twila » 7 years 3 months ago (Sun May 13, 2012 12:23 pm)

mincuo:

...it is better that you calculate carefully the possible outcomes, and that you write the challenge accordingly...

...And all the Joe and Jane in teh world? They haven't even well understood what was that challenge...



Still waiting for you to answer this question mincuo:


Have you seen how Mr. Ransdell's challenge is written?


Please just answer with a yes or no. That's all the information that's needed.

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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby Moderator » 7 years 3 months ago (Sun May 13, 2012 10:53 pm)

mincuo:
The your point has been made. There are different approaches that could and should be taken in exposing charlatans like Wiesel. You have your view, Twila has her's, so be it.
However, if you want to continue posting to this thread, then please answer Twila's reasonable inquiry:
Have you seen how Mr. Ransdell's challenge is written?

Ransdell's challenge is the topic of this thread.
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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby mincuo » 7 years 3 months ago (Tue May 15, 2012 10:14 pm)

I read all that I found, all that it was written here, and I read this link offered by you: http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/kentuck ... -6-speech/
I didn't find the exact text. So my opinions could be wrong.
If you post the exact text I will be grateful
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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby twila » 7 years 3 months ago (Wed May 16, 2012 8:36 am)

mincuo:

...it is better that you calculate carefully the possible outcomes, and that you write the challenge accordingly...

...And all the Joe and Jane in teh world? They haven't even well understood what was that challenge...



Still waiting for you to answer this question mincuo:


Have you seen how Mr. Ransdell's challenge is written?


Please just answer with a yes or no. That's all the information that's needed.



mincuo:

I didn't find the exact text. So my opinions could be wrong.



Interesting answer to a yes or no question, but I think the point has been made.

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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby mincuo » 7 years 3 months ago (Wed May 16, 2012 12:51 pm)

Evidently I read all that I needed, if you don't publish more that I didn't know. So I rest perfectly with my opinions. You with yours.
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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby Moderator » 7 years 3 months ago (Wed May 16, 2012 6:12 pm)

Interesting answer to a yes or no question, but I think the point has been made.

Evidently I read all that I needed, if you don't publish more that I didn't know. So I rest perfectly with my opinions. You with yours.

So, we have a Pax Forumus. :-)
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Re: Robert Ransdell's Elie Wiesel tattoo challenge

Postby twila » 7 years 2 months ago (Tue May 22, 2012 10:33 pm)

mincuo:

I didn't find the exact text. So my opinions could be wrong...

...So I rest perfectly with my opinions.


I find it interesting that a person can "rest perfectly with his opinions" even while admitting that they are based on ignorance and "could be wrong."


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