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another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Hannover » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:51 pm)

Here's a link to an alleged 'excavation' at Chelmno. I couldn't help but notice the absolute lack of corpses. Well, there is a rabbi holding a sheet which is said, but not shown of course, to contain human remains. And how many were supposedly 'gassed' at Chelmno? Yet this what they have to show for it, a rabbi with a sheet. They claim all these "pits", but show no pictures of their contents, or lack of.

The laughable remains of tens of thousands:
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However, they did find amazing items such as:
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The more they try, the worse it gets. Have look.

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Rankweil » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:56 pm)

So you're saying that the report is a fake? This author is lying?

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Hannover » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:59 pm)

Yes, the author is lying. The report is a fraud. There are no bodies shown which match the allegations. In fact, not even one corpse is shown.

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Rankweil » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:32 pm)

THat's very easy to claim, isn't it? That still leaves the question of where those 150,000 or so Jews who were sent to chelmno ended up.

I wonder whether you'd claim that the authors of reports of excavations of Stalinist graves or graves of armenians published without pictures were also lying?

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Dresden » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:45 pm)

Rankweil said:

"I wonder whether you'd claim that the authors of reports of excavations of Stalinist graves or graves of armenians published without pictures were also lying?"

Compare Chelmno to Katyn.
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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Hektor » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:57 pm)

Rankweil wrote:....
I wonder whether you'd claim that the authors of reports of excavations of Stalinist graves or graves of armenians published without pictures were also lying?

They are pretty common come with lots of pictures.
http://archive.org/details/1943-Im-Wald-von-Katyn
http://archive.org/details/Auswaertiges ... -von-Katyn
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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Rankweil » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:57 pm)

Katyn is only one example. We're told 40 million people were killed by Stalin. Katyn is only a couple thousand Poles.

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Moderator » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:10 pm)

Rankweil:
Your last post was not specifically about the linked-to Chelmno piece in the OP. You may consider a separate thread. Thanks.
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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Hannover » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:20 pm)

Rankweil wrote:Katyn is only one example. We're told 40 million people were killed by Stalin. Katyn is only a couple thousand Poles.

So, what's your point?

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Rankweil » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:21 pm)

My point is that it's very easy to claim something is a fraud just because you werne't shown something.

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Hannover » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:29 pm)

Rankweil wrote:My point is that it's very easy to claim something is a fraud just because you werne't shown something.

Are you saying they excavated tens of thousands of corpses and just forgot to photograph them or something? It seems to me that if corpses as alleged were found they would be shown in full glory.

I guess a chance to refute 'holocaust deniers' was just too vulgar for these rabbis of subtlety.

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Lohengrin » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:19 pm)

Rankweil: "That still leaves the question of where those 150,000 or so Jews who were sent to chelmno ended up."

Yea. And it still leaves the question too where those 150,000 or so bodies of Jews ended up. Blowing by the wind, I guess? Just like the famous invisible "Gas vans" of Chelmno?

Mr. Hilberg said "only 20% of 'the Holocaust' is known, and one has to seek mainly in the Soviet Union for the other 80%.

Let's try as Pater Desbois did, but this time much better!

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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Breker » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:01 pm)

Rankweil: "That still leaves the question of where those 150,000 or so Jews who were sent to chelmno ended up."

According to The Holocaust Industry the supposed 150,000 ended up in mass graves at Chelmno.

Rankweil: I wonder whether you'd claim that the authors of reports of excavations of Stalinist graves or graves of armenians published without pictures were also lying?"

I've never seen a full fledged report that supposedly gave details of an excavation without verifiable pictures of what has supposedly been excavated. That is until the "Holocaust" propaganda came along.
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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Rankweil » 6 years 11 months ago (Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:58 pm)

I'm going to preface this presentation by saying two tings. Firstly, I fully believe the Russian murdered 12,000 Germans at Sachsenhausen. Second, I don't believe Jews were killed and dumped in mass graves at Chelmno. Having said that...

Here's a NYTimes article from 1992 on mass graves found at CHelmno (attached at bottom).

Plus a few websites.

http://sachsenhausen2012.blogspot.com/2 ... ms-of.html
http://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/m ... senhausen/
http://www.traveljournals.net/pictures/31431.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/frankcrooi ... 201462615/
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t109045/

Here's an article on excavation at Sachsenhausen. Lots of sugar bowls

http://www.histarch.uni-kiel.de/2010_Theune_low.pdf

And then this journal article

http://www.timeandspace.lviv.ua/files/s ... o_1_46.pdf

Know what I don't see? Bodies.

See my point yet?
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Re: another embarrassing 'excavation' / Chelmno

Postby Hannover » 6 years 11 months ago (Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:29 am)

Know what I don't see? Bodies.

Of course not, none of these are forensic "reports" like what you have claimed here:
http://holocaustcontroversies.yuku.com/ ... MwK3KDhe3_

You still have not shown your alleged 150,000 corpses. Why not?

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