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- TheBlackRabbitofInlé
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Re: The Greatest Story Never Told
There's a number of errors; some are really bad errors, in these two videos which concern Holocaust revisionism.
Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
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Re: The Greatest Story Never Told
My first guess is that you feel the reference to Leuchter is out of date since there is a corrected edition of the Leuchter reports. Otherwise I admit to not knowing what you are talking about.
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Well, I'll start at the beginning, but will skip the Hoess "3,000,000 Jews" bit, as that can be argued either way: Yes, you can cite supposedly well informed people who were there with Hoess at the IMT who interpreted his confession to be purely about gassing Jews, but someone can argue: No, none of his 'I gassed 2.5m and killed another 0.5m before December 1943' confessions state that they were all Jews.
The lampshade and the shrunken heads from the Buchenwald atrocity table really did disappear, although other lampshades and different shrunken heads have been banded about by the Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen camp museums over the years.
It was Ilsa Koch's photograph albums which were tested in 1982 (not DNA tests though) and founded to be covered in animal skin from an indeterminable large animal.
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/con ... Koch1.html
In April 1945 a piece of tattooed skin and a leather knife sheaf were tested in London by British pathologist Sir Bernard Spillsbury who determined that they were both of human origin. His report(s)—which are written in barely legible handwriting on plain paper and are strewn with crossed out words and dates—state that he had been told that the piece of tattooed skin had been cut from a lampshade at Buchenwald. Meaning he didn't actually test a lampshade, the piece of tattooed skin could have been sliced off any number of dead bodies at Buchenwald in April 1945.
Whatever the truth behind what Spillsbury was given to test by two British socialist politicians who'd toured Buchenwald (one was a real strange character); his methods of testing them, and the shoddiness of his report(s), believers in the lampshade nonsense can cite a report written by a pathologist which "proves" there was a tattooed human skin lampshade at Buchenwald.
DNA testing proves that the Dachau [recte : Buchenwald] lampshade is goatskin. And the two shrunken heads? They conveniently disappeared before they could be tested.
The lampshade and the shrunken heads from the Buchenwald atrocity table really did disappear, although other lampshades and different shrunken heads have been banded about by the Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen camp museums over the years.
It was Ilsa Koch's photograph albums which were tested in 1982 (not DNA tests though) and founded to be covered in animal skin from an indeterminable large animal.
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/con ... Koch1.html
In April 1945 a piece of tattooed skin and a leather knife sheaf were tested in London by British pathologist Sir Bernard Spillsbury who determined that they were both of human origin. His report(s)—which are written in barely legible handwriting on plain paper and are strewn with crossed out words and dates—state that he had been told that the piece of tattooed skin had been cut from a lampshade at Buchenwald. Meaning he didn't actually test a lampshade, the piece of tattooed skin could have been sliced off any number of dead bodies at Buchenwald in April 1945.
Whatever the truth behind what Spillsbury was given to test by two British socialist politicians who'd toured Buchenwald (one was a real strange character); his methods of testing them, and the shoddiness of his report(s), believers in the lampshade nonsense can cite a report written by a pathologist which "proves" there was a tattooed human skin lampshade at Buchenwald.
Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
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Today at Buchenwald [recte : Dachau], there is a sign informing visitors that no gassings ever took place.
It seems that sign in the Dachau gas chambers has long since been removed, and the Dachua museum is telling the tourists people were gassed there.
http://kaciharrison.studentsgoneglobal. ... tion-camp/
Soap.
Well, you've quoted Lipstadt correctly, and in context, but most Holocaustians are annoyed by that article, as she didn't separate the RJF soap story from the Danzig soap factory story, which they still maintain is true; in essence (now they've discarded the NKVD soap recipe submitted at Nuremberg and the wild confessions of laboratory assistant Siegmund Mazur, died shortly afterwards), i.e. Dr. Spanner did attempt to utilise human bodies in his anatomical institute to make cleaning products for use on the institutes' floor, work surfaces etc.
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... human.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/denial-o ... ap-01.html
Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
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With no photographs, video footage or even a single autopsy report of a gassed victim, we have had to trust the Soviets and the testimonies of former inmates, none of whom were cross-examined at Nuremberg.
I know of a least one Soviet photograph of the corpses of people supposedly killed in Nazi gas vans in Kharkov, plus there was a "medico-legal, chemico-legal and spectroscopic investigation," which concluded "523 of the person whose bodies they had examined had been poisoned by carbon-monoxide". Three of the Soviet gentlemen who led this inquiry were later involved in the Soviet "investigation" into the Katyn massacre.
http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22610#p22610
As for relying on "testimonies of former inmates, none of whom were cross-examined at Nuremberg." I've checked: Samuel Rajzman (Treblinka sonderkommando) and Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier (Auschwitz inmate), the first was not cross-examined, whilst the second was only asked a few questions by the counsel representing the SS, none of the counsels defending the actual men in the dock cross-examined her. But the Nuremberg trials weren't the only post-crimes trials, there have been hundreds of them. In the one I'm most familiar with, the first Belsen trial in 1945 (which was as much about Auschwitz as it was Belsen), the witnesses were subjected to fairly harsh cross-examination, the defence counsels accused several of them of telling "lies." The far bigger problems was that the court accepted into evidence affidavits of people who weren't brought into court and therefore couldn't be cross examined.
Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
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All very interesting but I stand by the film and its search for and presentation of a tale that shows Germany's position and Hitler in a different light. I for one didn't know about the strength of the German economic recovery, the disarmament fiasco by the French and UK, the gold standard and the banking situation.
Hitler was no saint but he led a country from despair to pride and with strong leadership which gave most of the public something to hang on to and believe. He wanted to right the wrongs of the Versailles Treaty and be treated fairly by the international community. He had innovative ideas for a better community and establishment and supported education, technology and scientific advance.
Things went wrong spectacularly but he and Germany were shafted by the West.
This film opens up a different avenue of perspective on the issues of the time and makes me realise how much the bullshit of the history we have been force fed in the post war era.
Hitler was no saint but he led a country from despair to pride and with strong leadership which gave most of the public something to hang on to and believe. He wanted to right the wrongs of the Versailles Treaty and be treated fairly by the international community. He had innovative ideas for a better community and establishment and supported education, technology and scientific advance.
Things went wrong spectacularly but he and Germany were shafted by the West.
This film opens up a different avenue of perspective on the issues of the time and makes me realise how much the bullshit of the history we have been force fed in the post war era.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician
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I looked at some of episode 20 and 21 where it hadn't been deleted by youtube yet. He's right that the holocaust is a myth and he puts out some good reasons why. His intentions are good regarding this, but as BlackRabbit says, there are a lot of errors. It's not on a level that could be used by mature revisionists.
It's not up to a scholarly level, but taken as "impressions" and a collection of things that have had an effect on him regarding the holocaust myth, I could take it on that level.
It's not up to a scholarly level, but taken as "impressions" and a collection of things that have had an effect on him regarding the holocaust myth, I could take it on that level.
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The OP's link is broken. Try this instead:
http://pauleisen.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-greatest-story-never-told.html
http://pauleisen.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-greatest-story-never-told.html
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The usual suspects have managed to remove this film from Youtube.
you can see it here
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-1-adolf-hitlers-childhood/ in parts (not the whole film in one go)
you can see it here
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-1-adolf-hitlers-childhood/ in parts (not the whole film in one go)
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Re: The Greatest Story Never Told
Regarding the accuracy of "The Greatest Story Never Told" this is not revisionist scholarship, it's a true-at-heart narrative and that's how is should be judged.
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Re: The Greatest Story Never Told
Picking up where I left off....
In episode 21 at 5:57 whilst showing footage of the immense Prussian blue staining on delousing building BW 5b in Auschwitz II (Birkenau), the following caption is on the screen:
Blue Zyklon B residue at Dachau delousing chamber.
At 9:34 - 9:47 the video claims to show some "Anti-German propaganda" in the form of three supposedly doctored photographs. They're certainly doctored, but by who is the question. These images have only be floating round the Internet for a relatively short time, and I have never seen, nor can I find any of them being used by Holocaust promoters; they're very likely a joke made by someone who's not unfamiliar with codoh, as one of them bears the watermark ARC.
At 10:10 begins a segment titled "The Rise and Fall of the Auschwitz Death Toll."
First the video shows the famous 1948 German newsreel on the November-December 1947 Krakow-Auschwitz trial, and claims:
1945 - 300,000 dead.
Both the year and the figure are wrong. As I mentioned, this trial, the Auschwitz Guard's trial, took place in 1947, and the 300,000 death toll refers to the deaths of registered inmates only. The guards were not held responsible for the gassings, for which Hoess had been tried earlier in the year in Warsaw. I have it on very good authority that the Incitement of the Guard's trial spoke of a minimum of 3,000,000 victims killed at the camp (which was likely based on the judgment of Hoess' trial which states: "an undetermined number of people, at least 2,500,000, mainly Jews" were killed at Auschwitz), and I have it on not such a good authority that:
In the Auschwitz trial in Krakow, three and one-half million were determined as definitely certain. But it was said in that connection it wasn't proven whether perhaps it wasn't more than that.
- Hans Wilhelm Muench (SS doctor turned canary)
Nuremberg Military Tribunal: Trial 6: The I. G. Farben Case, NMT, Volume VIII, page 321
http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=717
Then the video shows one of the old Birkenau plaques (installed in 1967) and says:
1948 - 4 million
That's true, but the figure of 4,000,000 figure was given legal recognition when it appeared in the Incitement of the main Nuremberg trial, which is dated 6 October 1945.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/count3.asp
At 12:49, I guess that part was done before David Cole reappeared earlier this year.
That's all that I think is wrong, raising other points would just be splitting hairs.
Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
- Prof. Noah Charney
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I liked these films and went back to review a certain part but found it was gone!
It was in Part 20 where Hoes was in court at Nurenberg. I saw a black and white film clip from the trial of Hoes listening to an officer of the court read a statement about the gas chamber, and pouring Zyklon B pellets down a hole in the roof, and people dying. Hoes was asked if the statement was correct and he said one word - "yes". I was impressed by Hoes' tense demeanor, and how little of the statement was in his own words. I was certain that he was being coerced.
When I went back to review it, I saw a film clip from a movie, in color, with an actor playing the part of Hoes. It was not as compelling as the original black and white clip. Did anyone else notice that the black and white clip was replaced by a reinactment?
I find it very discouraging this version of the gas chamber story is censored and manipulated online.
It was in Part 20 where Hoes was in court at Nurenberg. I saw a black and white film clip from the trial of Hoes listening to an officer of the court read a statement about the gas chamber, and pouring Zyklon B pellets down a hole in the roof, and people dying. Hoes was asked if the statement was correct and he said one word - "yes". I was impressed by Hoes' tense demeanor, and how little of the statement was in his own words. I was certain that he was being coerced.
When I went back to review it, I saw a film clip from a movie, in color, with an actor playing the part of Hoes. It was not as compelling as the original black and white clip. Did anyone else notice that the black and white clip was replaced by a reinactment?
I find it very discouraging this version of the gas chamber story is censored and manipulated online.
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Ginger, could you please point us to the original footage that shows the real Hoess and not an reenactor?!
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I can't. The first time I saw it was in "The Greatest Story NEVER told", Part 20, but now it is gone. I saw a black and white film from the original trials but it has been replaced with a movie clip in color.
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Nazis tried to create super-soldiers, using steroids ... they sought to reanimate the dead—coffins of famous Germanic warriors were found hidden in a mine, with plans to bring them back to life at the war’s end.
- Prof. Noah Charney
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