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Postby Hannover » 5 years 9 months ago (Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:40 pm)

The usual enemies of free speech are being busted.

It's now more apparent than ever that Jewish supremacism being is chastised, confronted, and called out for it's utterly false narrative. Those who debunk the 'holocaust' storyline should take pride in their efforts. Simply put, Revisionist efforts are working, the public is catching on. The impossible and laughably absurd 'holocaust' scam is falling apart faster than a cheap suit.

Clearly, the tide is turning.

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source: http://www.deliberation.info/anti-jewish-ire-france/
Anti-Jewish Ire in France
By Ariadna Theokopoulos on January 28, 2014 in Activism, Dissidence, Europe, Ideology, Israel, Jewish Power

This past Sunday was a “day of ire” in France, when a mass demonstration against “the establishment” in general and the Prime Minister, François Hollande in particular, turned into an explicit anti-Jewish protest.

Gilad Atzmon, in his article below, makes the point that Jewish organizations in France and around the world failed to appreciate the depth of popular resentment against “Shoah indoctrination and belligerent lobby politics.” By the disproportionate, massive attack against Diodonée and any criticism of Israel and Jewish power, punishable as “hate speech” and “incitement to hate,” Jewish power in France and elsewhere (e.g., the UK, see the case of the football player Anelka) has only exacerbated the popular resentment, as seen in the chants of the demonstrators in the video below.
First the video (under which I have provided the translation of the chants) and then Atzmon’s article.

Day of Ire

[If YouTube video doesn't work go to above link.]

Translation of the French subtitles and chants:

[Revisionist, Dr. Robert] Faurisson is right: gas chambers are a lie (“du bidon” = slang equivalent of “bullshit”)

Jews, buzz off, France is not yours!

Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews

Jews, LICRA, we don’t want you! (LICRA = Jewish French organization similar to ADL)

Jews, out of France

Then, as mentioned above, we have Gilad Atzmon. It's not clear to me in this piece what Atzmon's definition of the 'holocaust' is, but it's abundantly clear that he finds Jewish supremacism's promotion of the lies to be obnoxious, tiresome, and he recognizes that so called "antisemitism" is a creation of mentally ill Jewish supremacists.
HOLOCAUST DAY – THE TIME IS RIPE FOR A JEWISH APOLOGY

by GILAD ATZMON

A mass protest in Paris on Sunday against French President François Hollande turned into an anti-Jewish demonstration and ended in clashes between police and protesters.

Seemingly, Jewish organisations around the world are scared by the recent developments in France. Once again, they clearly failed to appreciate the growing mass fatigue of Shoah indoctrination and belligerent lobby politics. However, I would contend that instead of whining about the “rise of anti-Semitism”, Jews better, once and for all, learn to ask why? Why the Jews again? Why are they hated? What is it in Jewish politics that evokes so much resentment? Why does it happen time after time?

It wasn’t easy for me to admit in my latest book that Jewish suffering is actually embedded in Jewish culture. In other words, Jews are actually destined to bring disasters on themselves. Jewish politics and culture, unfortunately, is obnoxious, abusive, as well as racist, and supremacist to the bone. Jewish culture is set to infuriate the Goyim just because Jews are defined by negation – that chilling sensation of being hated.

Interestingly enough, early Zionism, was a promise to change it all. Herzl, Nordau, Borochov and Weizmann believed that a “homecoming project” would transform the Diaspora Jews into ethical new Israelites. They were sure that a settlement project would make the Jew lovable and respected. But they were obviously wrong. Zionism was destined to crash. In spite of being driven by anti-Jewish sentiments, Zionism was quickly defeated by Jewishness (Jewish spirit, culture and ideology). It matured into a vile chauvinist amplification of every possible crude Jewish symptom it was initially supposed to eradicate.

Many Jews around the world are commemorating the Holocaust this week. But if I am correct, maybe the time is ripe for Jewish and Zionist organisations to draw the real and most important lesson from the Holocaust. Instead of constantly blaming the Goyim for inflicting pain on Jews, it is time for Jews to look in the mirror and try to identify what it is in Jews and their culture that evokes so much fury. It may even be possible that some Jews would take this opportunity to apologise to the Gentiles around them for evoking all this anger.

I would willingly take this opportunity and make an apology, but I have not been a Jew for a while now.
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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby hermod » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:59 am)

I'm not convinced that a few Far-Right extremists screaming "Jews, Jews, Jews, out of France" and "gas chambers are a lie" will help the revisionist truths to emerge and reach most people. Most people hate Far-Right extremists and are afraid of them. The revisionist truths could hardly have found worse speakers for themselves. Convicted pedophiles or cannibals maybe? Not even certain.

My opinion is most people reject revisionism without knowing it because they connect it with Far-Right extremism and so they just don't want to hear about it. Something I've noticed when debatting the "Holocaust" on non-revisionist websites is that many people call me a Nazi and all kinds of names from the very beginning and they don't even respond the content of my comments. They immediately think: "Holocaust denier" = Nazi = mass murderer and liar. And they react emotionaly in a very aggressive way, not even considering my arguments.

IMO Far-Right extremists screaming "gas chambers are a lie" is in fact a gift to Zionist supremacists and "Holocaust" promoters.
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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Landulf » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:32 am)

Totally agree. My strategy when debating with believers is to play a little dumb. You get them to feel that they know this subject more than you do and then suddenly you ask how the gassings was made technically and then they are ******.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Hannover » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:37 pm)

hermod wrote:I'm not convinced that a few Far-Right extremists screaming "Jews, Jews, Jews, out of France" and "gas chambers are a lie" will help the revisionist truths to emerge and reach most people. Most people hate Far-Right extremists and are afraid of them. The revisionist truths could hardly have found worse speakers for themselves. Convicted pedophiles or cannibals maybe? Not even certain.

My opinion is most people reject revisionism without knowing it because they connect it with Far-Right extremism and so they just don't want to hear about it. Something I've noticed when debatting the "Holocaust" on non-revisionist websites is that many people call me a Nazi and all kinds of names from the very beginning and they don't even respond the content of my comments. They immediately think: "Holocaust denier" = Nazi = mass murderer and liar. And they react emotionaly in a very aggressive way, not even considering my arguments.

IMO Far-Right extremists screaming "gas chambers are a lie" is in fact a gift to Zionist supremacists and "Holocaust" promoters.
"Far right extrremists"? Oh please, what a statist left wing canard that is. What's so 'extreme' about calling out Jewish supremacist lies? Since when is fighting back 'extreme'? Well, perhaps to the Marxist Jewish supremacists it is. Of course, we rarely see talk of the 'Far Left Extremists' who have control of most western governments now and push their nonsense down everyone's throat 24/7. The West is falling apart by the hour, in case hermod & landulf haven't noticed.

And I note no proof of them being 'extremist' in any manner, just name calling by hermod and landulf. Not very sincere, guys. I challenge you to show me what is so "extreme" about people exercising a basic human right to public protest.

And from what I can see, this protest is not just a 'few' people: http://www.deliberation.info/anti-jewish-ire-france/

As with any public demonstration, which hermod and landulf seem to oppose because it's just too "extreme", what else can a group do but carry placards and yell their ideas out while marching? It is the nature of any protest march. Some would prefer to stay at home and hide in their house I guess.

Let's remember, these people vote and in a 'democracy' that is supposed to matter. And from what I have seen, plus the results of recent elections, these so called "extremists" are becoming rather mainstream and gaining power and influence in countries everywhere. The times are changing, hermod, landulf, you both seem a bit out of touch.

I also note that hermod & landulf are merely shooting the messengers without actually disagreeing with the outrage these people are displaying. Or perhaps they do disagree. Out with it guys, one way or the other.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Mkk » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:51 pm)

the Marxist Jewish supremacists it is.

Marxist? :? Israel is a generally right-wing, nationalist, capitalist state - pretty far away from Marxism which was against all of that. We should be careful not to throw ideological labels around.

Ofcourse Israel does not represent the opinions all Jews but there are very few Marxists around any more in western Europe. Including Jews.

They are not just advocating Revisionism, they are apparently calling for all people of Jewish background to leave France. That certainly is an extremist position.
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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Hannover » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:04 pm)

Mkk said:
Marxist? :? Israel is a generally right-wing, nationalist, capitalist state - pretty far away from Marxism which was against all of that. We should be careful not to throw ideological labels around.

Ofcourse Israel does not represent the opinions all Jews but there are very few Marxists around any more in western Europe. Including Jews.

They are not just advocating Revisionism, they are apparently calling for all people of Jewish background to leave France. That certainly is an extremist position.
Nonsense, they are a failing socialist / Marxist state completely dependent on handouts from the US and the west in general. IOW, a parasitic, classic Marxist state. I suggest a review of Zionism from it's infancy, they have always had an openly stated Marxist agenda. Ex.: Look at the collective industries, kipputzum (sic?), etc. "Capitalist"? Oh please, the government controls everything, which means it is not capitalist, Econ. 101. And since when can't a militaristic state be considered Marxist? In fact that is usually the case. In fact every Marxist state HAS BEEN militaristic, which Mkk naively confuses with 'right wing'. The Marxist / communist anthem is the 'Internationale', meaning world domination, remember that.

"Not any Marxists around anymore"? Is this serious? Look at the command and control nature of the economies and the laws in place. Of course the "Far Left Extremists" do not like the label 'Marxist', but that is simply an attempt to cloak their agenda, they are what they support. Obama, Merkel, Hollande, on & on it goes, Marxist to the core.

"Apparently calling for all people of Jewish background to leave France"? "Apparently?" Who says that in this demonstration? Are all participants saying that? I note that Mkk has not called out Israel for definitely calling for Palestinians to leave Israel, and if they don't leave, Israel just steals their land, puts them in bantustans, builds apartheid walls, or simply murders them.

Mkk, I suggest you familiarize yourself with details before you debate.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Landulf » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:43 pm)

Im fully aware of whats happening. And don't forget the banksters. But we will win nothing by being skinheads and shouting Heil Hitler. Such behaviour makes people laugh and shake their heads.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Hannover » 5 years 9 months ago (Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:19 pm)

Im fully aware of whats happening. And don't forget the banksters. But we will win nothing by being skinheads and shouting Heil Hitler. Such behaviour makes people laugh and shake their heads.
I don't see such folks in this demonstration, do you? But even if there were a few, so what? Most tattooed athletes look like what I imagine you think are 'skinheads', as do many bald guys who try to look hip. 'Skinhead' is just a media buzzword in the hopes of discrediting those whose ideas they do not like. Please define a 'skinhead'.

"Banksters"? And who are they?

You still have not said what makes these people "Far Right Extemists". Is it a condemnation of a preferred economic system? Militarism? Whether they are Judeo-centric or not? What are you and hermod actually talking about? Please define "Far Right Extemism".

I find it interesting that people who fight and protest against very real racism & hatred by Jewish supremacists are demonized by those who claim to fight 'racism & hatred'. Jewish supremacists are being hoisted by their own petard.

"Heil Hitler"? Well, his socialist views (yes the NSDAP was socialist) are not my cup of tea, but all in all it was really not so bad considering Hitler's alleged '6m & gas chambers' has now been completely discredited. Typically those yelling such things are agent provocateurs anyway. Can you point them out in this demonstration? Yes? No? Or are you just referring to what the 'media' claims?
Such behaviour makes people laugh and shake their heads.
Haven't you been paying attention? Less & less people are 'shaking their heads', more and more are fed up with the lies & corruption and are doing something about it. And it is the impossible 'holocaust' storyline that buttresses such lying & corruption by Jewish supremacists.

And remember, these protesters are committed, do vote, and change is coming. Think about it.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby JoFo » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:27 am)

I don't see such folks in this demonstration, do you?


Hannover, it doesn't matter what you see; it matters what the people on the fence see. If what those demonstrators are saying can be twisted against them, it will be. Landulf is right: It does matter how the message is expressed.

I challenge you to show me what is so "extreme" about people exercising a basic human right to public protest.


I challenge you to start your own demonstration using the same epithets and see how far you get...

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby hermod » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:42 am)

Hannover wrote:"Far right extrremists"? Oh please, what a statist left wing canard that is. What's so 'extreme' about calling out Jewish supremacist lies? Since when is fighting back 'extreme'? Well, perhaps to the Marxist Jewish supremacists it is. Of course, we rarely see talk of the 'Far Left Extremists' who have control of most western governments now and push their nonsense down everyone's throat 24/7. The West is falling apart by the hour, in case hermod & landulf haven't noticed.

And I note no proof of them being 'extremist' in any manner, just name calling by hermod and landulf. Not very sincere, guys. I challenge you to show me what is so "extreme" about people exercising a basic human right to public protest.


The only banner seen in the video you've posted is a banner of the organization "Les Caryatides", a French nationalist organization (http://la-flamme.fr/2013/11/les-caryati ... onalistes/). And don't tell me you didn't notice there were many skinheads among the ones screaming "Jews out of France".

And I know the West is falling apart. I also know that's a consequence of Jewish-Zionist actions.


And from what I can see, this protest is not just a 'few' people: http://www.deliberation.info/anti-jewish-ire-france/


The protest was not just a few people. That's true. I was just talking about the part screaming "Jews out of France". There were many people because it was a protest against French President François Hollande. Most people were there because they were angry about François Hollande's new taxes, the recent legalization of Gay marriage in France and the introduction of the Gender Theory in French schools. Most people were there for those reasons, not against Jewish power. France is now a very philosemitic country. No way anyone could gather so many people in France for an anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist protest. Unfortunately.


As with any public demonstration, which hermod and landulf seem to oppose because it's just too "extreme", what else can a group do but carry placards and yell their ideas out while marching? It is the nature of any protest march. Some would prefer to stay at home and hide in their house I guess.

Let's remember, these people vote and in a 'democracy' that is supposed to matter. And from what I have seen, plus the results of recent elections, these so called "extremists" are becoming rather mainstream and gaining power and influence in countries everywhere. The times are changing, hermod, landulf, you both seem a bit out of touch.

I also note that hermod & landulf are merely shooting the messengers without actually disagreeing with the outrage these people are displaying. Or perhaps they do disagree. Out with it guys, one way or the other.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. The tide is turning.


I don't disagree with the message. True. I was just saying those people were only a very small part of the people who protested on that day. And I wasn't shooting the messengers. If I had been present, I would probably have marched with them. I was saying those messengers won't help the revisionist message to be spread in the French population, even on the contrary.
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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Hannover » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:24 pm)

"Truth is hate for those who hate the truth"- Auchwitz lies, p.13

JoFo says:
Hannover, it doesn't matter what you see; it matters what the people on the fence see. If what those demonstrators are saying can be twisted against them, it will be. Landulf is right: It does matter how the message is expressed.

I challenge you to start your own demonstration using the same epithets and see how far you get...

- But what do these people on the fence see? Nothing anymore extreme than what Jewish supremacists say about those whose thinking they do not like.

- "Can be twisted"? Exactly, "twisted", as in not the truth.

- Regardless of protestor behavior anyone who demonstrates against Jewish supremacist interests will be called any one of the many usual epithets and the protestors points will be "twisted", So what else is new? According to JoFo there should never be protests then. Which is exactly what those being protested against want.

- So I see, anyone who says the gas chambers are BS will get nowhere. That's a defeatist attitude if I ever saw one.

hermod then says:
The protest was not just a few people. That's true. I was just talking about the part screaming "Jews out of France". There were many people because it was a protest against French President François Hollande. Most people were there because they were angry about François Hollande's new taxes, the recent legalization of Gay marriage in France and the introduction of the Gender Theory in French schools. Most people were there for those reasons, not against Jewish power. France is now a very philosemitic country. No way anyone could gather so many people in France for an anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist protest. Unfortunately.
The only banner seen in the video you've posted is a banner of the organization "Les Caryatides", a French nationalist organization (http://la-flamme.fr/2013/11/les-caryati ... onalistes/). And don't tell me you didn't notice there were many skinheads among the ones screaming "Jews out of France".
And I know the West is falling apart. I also know that's a consequence of Jewish-Zionist actions.
- So, just a few people yelled "Jews out", out of a large group. I think that makes my point rather well.

- And of those who did say such things, whose to say they were not planted, 'agent provocateur' is the French phrase.

- Angry at Hollande's policies? Exactly. And who is Hollande and who was Sarkozy? Whose special interests do/did they represent? And who is firmly in control of French government policies? Bingo.

- In what country did anti-Revisionist laws begin? hermod, you are completely missing the many, many reasons for the protest. People are fed up with lies, corruption, and special treatment for some people.

- "No way anyone could gather so many people in France for an anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist protest."? Hello. They certainly did, pay attention please.

- Wow, one and "only" one banner for a nationalist group. Thank you. So you're thinking that 'nationalism' is bad, weird, unusual? Ever been outside of your country? Ever watch an international sporting event? Ever watched the Olympics? I've done all of that, repeatedly, and let me tell you those from other countries are super nationalists

- And then the tired "skinhead" canard. Anyone with a shaved head and tattoos is a "skinhead"? And true, I did not see such folks. It's irrelevant anyway. These people, whoever they are are committed, organized, and they vote. Again, haven't you been paying attention. Change is coming.

The tide is turning.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Thames Darwin » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:37 pm)

Hannover wrote:Nonsense, they are a failing socialist / Marxist state completely dependent on handouts from the US and the west in general. IOW, a parasitic, classic Marxist state. I suggest a review of Zionism from it's infancy, they have always had an openly stated Marxist agenda. Ex.: Look at the collective industries, kipputzum (sic?), etc. "Capitalist"? Oh please, the government controls everything, which means it is not capitalist, Econ. 101. And since when can't a militaristic state be considered Marxist? In fact that is usually the case. In fact every Marxist state HAS BEEN militaristic, which Mkk naively confuses with 'right wing'. The Marxist / communist anthem is the 'Internationale', meaning world domination, remember that.

"Not any Marxists around anymore"? Is this serious? Look at the command and control nature of the economies and the laws in place. Of course the "Far Left Extremists" do not like the label 'Marxist', but that is simply an attempt to cloak their agenda, they are what they support. Obama, Merkel, Hollande, on & on it goes, Marxist to the core.


Screaming with purported authority on a topic about which one knows little is never a good idea.

Israel was socialist state between its founding and 1977. Since 1977, with the election of its first staunchly antisocialist government, it was drifted slowly but surely toward the right. Even in its socialist period, Marxists were always left out of the government. "No Marxists, no Revisionists" is what Ben-Gurion said. He would rather forms governments with Arabs than with Marxists. That's a historical fact. The "Revisionists" to which that motto refers are the right wing of the Zionist movement, founded by Jabotinsky, with the banner carried forward by Begin, Shamir, and Netanyahu. These people aren't Marxists - not by a long shot. Israel has also been operating as a market economy since at least the 1970s.

Obama, Merkel, and Holland also aren't Marxists. Merkel is a center-rightist. Hollande is probably some diluted sort of socialist, but the "socialist" parties in Western Europe haven't been Marxists since, well, 1919 or so. Obama is a pure corporatist. He's not even remotely socialist. He is owned and operated by Wall Street, which should be obvious to anyone paying any attention whatsoever.

As revisionists, I hope we're all well aware that words matter and definitions are important. There are plenty of reasons to hate all of the people mentioned above, and Marxism doesn't have anything to do with it.

As for what's going on in France, I agree with Hannover on this point. It's refreshing that Europeans are finally recognizing who their masters are and are demanding that they be dealt with. Would that more Americans had that kind of guts.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby Hannover » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:20 pm)

Thames Darwin says:
Screaming with purported authority on a topic about which one knows little is never a good idea.

Israel was socialist state between its founding and 1977. Since 1977, with the election of its first staunchly antisocialist government, it was drifted slowly but surely toward the right. Even in its socialist period, Marxists were always left out of the government. "No Marxists, no Revisionists" is what Ben-Gurion said. He would rather forms governments with Arabs than with Marxists. That's a historical fact. The "Revisionists" to which that motto refers are the right wing of the Zionist movement, founded by Jabotinsky, with the banner carried forward by Begin, Shamir, and Netanyahu. These people aren't Marxists - not by a long shot. Israel has also been operating as a market economy since at least the 1970s.

Obama, Merkel, and Holland also aren't Marxists. Merkel is a center-rightist. Hollande is probably some diluted sort of socialist, but the "socialist" parties in Western Europe haven't been Marxists since, well, 1919 or so. Obama is a pure corporatist. He's not even remotely socialist. He is owned and operated by Wall Street, which should be obvious to anyone paying any attention whatsoever.

As revisionists, I hope we're all well aware that words matter and definitions are important. There are plenty of reasons to hate all of the people mentioned above, and Marxism doesn't have anything to do with it.

As for what's going on in France, I agree with Hannover on this point. It's refreshing that Europeans are finally recognizing who their masters are and are demanding that they be dealt with. Would that more Americans had that kind of guts.
- "Screaming with purported authority ..." Look whose talking as you simply try to hide the actual policies of those mentioned.

- Just because they do not call themselves Marxist / Socialist doesn't mean their policies and actions are not. But I said that earlier and you ignore it. What is North Korea's official name? It's Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Sure.

- You try to make a difference between Marxist and Socialist, there is no difference, but I suppose Socialist sounds better to some.

- Ben Gurion? Who cares. he's gone. It's a country's policies that matter, not what someone says. Please review the history of Zionism and it utopian plans for Jews only.

- Obama a corporatist? But that in it's itself means government control of the economy which equals Marxism, socialism, communism. Once again, another attempt to hide the facts under a different name. Look what Marxist Barry has done to the US economy, health care, his anti-constitution power grab, his favored treatment of unions, on & on. Look at his mentors. Remember communist Soviet Union had companies that made things, it's the control, power over them that matters. This could be a long list of Obama's Marxist actions & policies. You cannot be serious here, Thames.

- Look at the EU. Merkel and crew enact Marxist law after Marxist law. The regulations and control over most of Europe's economy, central banking, etc. are staggering. This control is bringing Europe to it's knees, just like Marxism/Socialism/Communism (call it what you will) always has done.

- Israel a market economy? Is this another joke? Their labor unions, housing, bloated welfare policies, military spending, etc. etc, all commanded and controlled by their government. Market economy not. Of course they wouldn't last a week without US taxpayers being ripped off. Not to mention the billions given to Israeli corporations, i.e.: from the NSA, Homeland Security, Pentagon, and endless stream of US taxpayer's cash.

As for what's going on in France, I agree with Hannover on this point. It's refreshing that Europeans are finally recognizing who their masters are and are demanding that they be dealt with. Would that more Americans had that kind of guts.
Indeed.

Let's do get back on topic to the OP.

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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby fountainhead » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:03 pm)

I think it's a good sign that even some Jews have taken note of this tiresome behavior like Norman Finklestein and, although in a humorous manner, Jerry Seinfeld:



The anti-Semite trick won't work forever. Though, I think more revisionists should immediately come right back with, "Point to anything I just said that was anti-Semitic or that constitutes inciting racial hatred or violence." After all, that's how they usually get around our free speech defense.
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Re: public reacts to Jewish supremacist lies /France & elsew

Postby hermod » 5 years 9 months ago (Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:41 pm)

Hannover wrote:
- So, just a few people yelled "Jews out", out of a large group. I think that makes my point rather well.


Yes, just a few people yelled "Jews out" and "gas chambers are a lie". I can't see how that makes your point. That rather makes my point that protest wasn't against Jewish-Zionist supremacy, except for a few protesters.


- And of those who did say such things, whose to say they were not planted, 'agent provocateur' is the French phrase.


No, they were not 'agent provocateur'.


- Angry at Hollande's policies? Exactly. And who is Hollande and who was Sarkozy? Whose special interests do/did they represent? And who is firmly in control of French government policies? Bingo.


I know that Hollande and Sarkozy are/were both Jews working for Zionist interests. But how many people protesting on that day were aware of this? How many of them protested against that?


- In what country did anti-Revisionist laws begin?


How many protests against the French anti-revisionist law have you seen in France in 23 years?


hermod, you are completely missing the many, many reasons for the protest. People are fed up with lies, corruption, and special treatment for some people.


I think YOU are missing the many, many reasons for the protest and you are focusing on the reason of a very few
ones (the anti-Zionist protesters). No offense.

People are fed up with the economic crisis and their own impoverishment. Make their bank account well-stocked again and they will kiss Netanyahu's shoes if they think he's the one to be thanked for that.

One way to be sure of people's reasons for being there would be to organize a protest "let's fight the Jewish-Zionist power over France" and see how many people would come.


- Wow, one and "only" one banner for a nationalist group. Thank you. So you're thinking that 'nationalism' is bad, weird, unusual?


No, I don't. But most people think nationalism is evil and a source of racism, wars, genocides and atrocities. The WW2 victors' propagandists and their followers (democratic leaders, Western media, academic historians) did their job pretty well. Maybe I know that because I used to be a nationalist myself.


Ever been outside of your country? Ever watch an international sporting event? Ever watched the Olympics? I've done all of that, repeatedly, and let me tell you those from other countries are super nationalists


Something I've noticed too. Something I call "the idiots' nationalism": most people hate anti-immigration measures and claim diversity is good, etc, but they start loving their county when (and only when) they hear their own national anthem in a stadium. That often leads to pathetic scenes of White people supporting a team of Africans who have recently acquired a country's citizenship only because of their sporting abilities. Stupid.


- And then the tired "skinhead" canard. Anyone with a shaved head and tattoos is a "skinhead"? And true, I did not see such folks. It's irrelevant anyway. These people, whoever they are are committed, organized, and they vote. Again, haven't you been paying attention. Change is coming.


I hope you're right on that one, but I stopped believing in such a change a while ago. Maybe I'm just too pessimistic.
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"But, however the world pretends to divide itself, there are ony two divisions in the world to-day - human beings and Germans. – Rudyard Kipling, The Morning Post (London), June 22, 1915


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